Sickening!!!!

Today it passed the third reading. I was there for a social work conference, and by the time I got out of my rally, and watched a senate meeting, there were still like 8 people there opposing the bill and just chatting with each other and then with us. This was maybe 45 minutes or an hour after the bill passed. We were all really sad... but now a cool thing happened. I don't know if the opponents talked with ALL the social work students running around... but we all saw the signs saying "oppose HB 1367" and we were sitting at the rally looking up the bill on our cell phones. So... 600 social work students... students studying HOW TO ADVOCATE... at least know what the bill is. There was some talk about getting the National Association of Social Workers to get involved too. A signing social worker (Deaf? deaf? HOH? I dunno.) is supposed to e-mail me about it. They plan to fight it even if it passes, and after two terms of the governor who was the one proposing this bill... the government will DEFINATELY be changing in the next governor's election time.
 
Tousi said:
Here's something for you. The Director for Hear Indiana, Naomi Horton is an AVT specialist who has her own AVT business and I am now hearing that she hasn't provided any disclaimer as regards a conflict of interest.

If that isn't enough, she's the one who said, "When kids don't consider themselves deaf, the magic begins".
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OH GAWD!!!!!!! Why is it that the auditory verbal specialists are all old lady speech therapist types? They just don't get it! I would LOVE it if those AVTers had to spend a day as a dhh kid in the mainstream. They would understand.
 
Did you watch their Youtube video?? It was posted on another thread... I heard a child talking about his experience at a HearIndiana Camp, and he said he loved it because everyone else there listened and talked like him. I was like... wow. Really??? THIS is the group who will be "unbiased"?????? No. I don't think so.
 
JanatheShort said:
Did you watch their Youtube video?? It was posted on another thread... I heard a child talking about his experience at a HearIndiana Camp, and he said he loved it because everyone else there listened and talked like him. I was like... wow. Really??? THIS is the group who will be "unbiased"?????? No. I don't think so.
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Hear Indiana will not be running the outreach either......
 
deafdyke said:
It's already spread to Utah sadly. 80% of dhh kids are orally educated there :(
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That's sad to hear and just nothing like 20-30 years ago when ASL was heavily at deaf school.
 
TXgolfer said:
Hear Indiana will not be running the outreach either......
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No, but if you research the history of ISD and governor Mitch Daniels, you will find he supports oral education and uses his power to try to help the oral movement. I don't trust his promise to make the group "unbiased". I think he would give Hear Indiana much more power in the new center.
 
JanatheShort said:
No, but if you research the history of ISD and governor Mitch Daniels, you will find he supports oral education and uses his power to try to help the oral movement. I don't trust his promise to make the group "unbiased". I think he would give Hear Indiana much more power in the new center.
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Daniels is probably the most trustworthy governor in the U.S., If he makes a promise I would bet on it. That's just me.
 
TXgolfer said:
Daniels is probably the most trustworthy governor in the U.S., If he makes a promise I would bet on it. That's just me.
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I'm assuming you say this because you are from texas. I live in Indiana, and I have NOT been impressed.
 
Foxrac said:
That's sad to hear and just nothing like 20-30 years ago when ASL was heavily at deaf school.
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Well the thing is, USDB has a very small residental school componet along with that Jean Massiou School which is voice off and has really crappy speech therapy services. The superintendent of USDB is the admin of an oral program, so decided to concentrate on not really offering great oral auxierally services. Parents want oral training......granted yeah we have THOSE kinds of parents who are VEHEMETLY against ASL but I think if ASL programs ALSO offered good quality speech therapies, like at shel's school (where there are periods where you're allowed to be "Sign off" and work on spoken language) or early childhood bi-bi where the day is split into spoken English and Clarke style training and then ASL/Deaf education.
The thing is, the audists do not understand that while a lot of kids are doing a lot better, meaning they don't have severe or profound spoken language delays (like the kind that would have caused them to be sent to CID/Clarke/ St. Joseph's in the old days) they still have delays. They also start to really lag behind around 4th grade or so.
 
JanatheShort said:
I think if you lived in the areas affected by his policies, you would change your opinion very quickly.
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His approval rating is in the high 50s to low 60s depending on the poll which is a pretty amazing number for a Gov bent on belt tightening and breaking unions in the middle of a downturn. Indiana's pensions are stable unlike many states. All in all I would say he has done a fantastic job. Indiana has one of the best economy's in the US all while he is positioning the state for the future. We can agree to disagree but I find what he has done to be nothing short of fantastic.
 
TXgolfer said:
His approval rating is in the high 50s to low 60s depending on the poll which is a pretty amazing number for a Gov bent on belt tightening and breaking unions in the middle of a downturn. Indiana's pensions are stable unlike many states. All in all I would say he has done a fantastic job. Indiana has one of the best economy's in the US all while he is positioning the state for the future. We can agree to disagree but I find what he has done to be nothing short of fantastic.
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I very much disagree. He has cut funding to colleges across the state. How is this preparing the state of Indiana for the future? Colleges reacted by layoffs and tuition raises. This makes students at greater risk of needing to drop out for financial reasons or raising horrendous debt to go to college. Less people completing college mean less people in an educated workforce prepared to make and participate in a stable economy in the future.

He is sacrificing the future of Indiana to make himself look good in the present.
 
JanatheShort said:
I very much disagree. He has cut funding to colleges across the state. How is this preparing the state of Indiana for the future? Colleges reacted by layoffs and tuition raises. This makes students at greater risk of needing to drop out for financial reasons or raising horrendous debt to go to college. Less people completing college mean less people in an educated workforce prepared to make and participate in a stable economy in the future.

He is sacrificing the future of Indiana to make himself look good in the present.
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Ah see...political differences. I agree with his decision....sometimes when revenue is scarce you have to make tough choices. He is trying to make Indiana more like TX while preventing it from becoming California. I live in both of those states..... He is making a good call.
 
TXgolfer said:
Ah see...political differences. I agree with his decision....sometimes when revenue is scarce you have to make tough choices. He is trying to make Indiana more like TX while preventing it from becoming California. I live in both of those states..... He is making a good call.
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Regardless on condition of economy, I love CA so far.

CA is #1 biggest economy in the US and when stock crash started in 4 years ago so it is HUGE downhill for CA, regardless on spending cut and tax raises. It isn't first time for CA to face economy downturn and it has been done in couple of decades ago. Texas and Indiana have different condition of economy and they may not severely affect as CA does. CA isn't top 10 for most foreclosure and FL is one of them with around 14%.

It will take years for CA to have a great economy condition.
 
JanatheShort said:
I very much disagree. He has cut funding to colleges across the state. How is this preparing the state of Indiana for the future? Colleges reacted by layoffs and tuition raises. This makes students at greater risk of needing to drop out for financial reasons or raising horrendous debt to go to college. Less people completing college mean less people in an educated workforce prepared to make and participate in a stable economy in the future.

He is sacrificing the future of Indiana to make himself look good in the present.
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Same goes with Alabama as well and I dislike republican governors.
 
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