Should ASL be reserve to culturally Deaf people only?

GrendelQ said:
If that is so, and a deaf person doesn't have the right to express a preference for a notetaker over ASL interpreter in a given situation, you've effectively turned the concept of audism into utter nonsense.
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He was after hot girls

Notetaking was just his form of pickup line

;)
 
Who said that nobody has a right to express their preferences for notetakers or CARTs?
 
Notetakers were worthless for me. The lecture should be printed out and everyone gets the same info.
 
GrendelQ said:
If that is so, and a deaf person doesn't have the right to express a preference for a notetaker over ASL interpreter in a given situation, you've effectively turned the concept of audism into utter nonsense.
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Yes, it's about choice. If a person feels more comfortable in using a note-taker over an ASL interpreter for whatever reason then more power to him or her. This is about choice here.
 
In the classroom with everyone using ASL, I was actually learning instead of memorizing
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GOOD POINT!!!!! Dhh kids don't have to work so hard to aquire actual CONTENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's exactly like how for most of school, I was forced to manunally write (I have poor fine motor due to hypotonia, sort of like mild CP) I can manually write. But it takes me a SUPER long time. I was spending all my energy on actually writing, rather then producing content. When I learned how to type, I started getting in stuff on time and actually producing CONTENT!!!
 
GrendelQ said:
If that is so, and a deaf person doesn't have the right to express a preference for a notetaker over ASL interpreter in a given situation, you've effectively turned the concept of audism into utter nonsense.
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Again, my point was missed. Thats alright.
 
posts from hell said:
Again, my point was missed. Thats alright.
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No, I get it, you wanted to yell "audist!" in a crowded forum.

FJ is an easy target because people keep trying to paint her as the enemy, an "oral-only-ist." She isn't.

Surprisingly, for someone who advises hearing parents to listen to the deaf experience, you don't follow your own advice. I think what many here are really saying isn't listen to the deaf, but "listen only to my deaf experience, disregard any other deaf out there.
 
GrendelQ said:
No, I get it, you wanted to yell "audist!" in a crowded forum.

FJ is an easy target because people keep trying to paint her as the enemy, an "oral-only-ist." She isn't.

Surprisingly, for someone who advises hearing parents to listen to the deaf experience, you don't follow your own advice. I think what many here are really saying isn't listen to the deaf, but "listen only to my deaf experience, disregard any other deaf out there.
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*shrug* okay, keep defending her. I'm not going to waste time and energy explaining my perspective - I'll just call it as i see it from now on.
 
FJ isn't spouting an "oral-only" approach nor has she supported that concept for her child. She made it clear on what she support.
 
I think what many here are really saying isn't listen to the deaf, but "listen only to my deaf experience, disregard any other deaf out there.
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Not exactly.
I think this is more like the clash you see in social science theory. Parents should talk to a variety of dhh people from a variety of backgrounds. But, it also seems like a lot of oral only/mainstream as solotaire advocates seem to be pro oral simply b/c they buy into the myth that oral only /solotaire mainstreaming =much better education. There are kids who do amazingly well orally (and who don't identify with Deaf culture) In other words they are "almost hearing" But even with a pure oral upbringing, a lot of dhh as kids still strongly idneitfy as pretty much "almost Deaf"
 
deafgal001 said:
The first time I've heard of notetaker was when I went to college. But it was a joke because no one volunteered. I still ended up taking my own notes and study for myself. Acccounting was the easiest to self study.
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There are too many problems with the concept of a notetaker, especially since most schools just ask another student to volunteer to share their notes. A deaf student needs a notetaker that is familiar with the subject and can take notes just for them the way they need them taken. Just like a terp, they should be clarifying terms and phrasing in a way the deaf person is likely to understand. A student who is taking the course for the first time has no more understanding than the deaf student does. That is not proper accommodation.
 
Beowulf said:
Notetakers were worthless for me. The lecture should be printed out and everyone gets the same info.
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I recommend that the professor's lecture be turned into a powerpoint presentation, then that be printed out on a notes page printout, and the notetaker use that for taking notes relevent to each slide.
 
HHIssues said:
Sorry to hear that. I had some very nice and efficient ones. It was nice having some of the nice or pretty ladies sitting next to me, grin. As a matter of fact, I'm still friends with some of them to this day. :)
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Shouldn't that go into the "using your deafness to your advantage" thread?:lol:
 
kokonut said:
FJ isn't spouting an "oral-only" approach nor has she supported that concept for her child. She made it clear on what she support.
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She most definately supports oral only education and sees a CI as the first approach to deafness. By her own admission.
 
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