Sentencing tomorrow for John TC Yeh of Viable

Ordinarily, I am the first one to...nevermind, this is just too inexplicable for me.........so I shall let it lie.....
 
Tousi said:
Ordinarily, I am the first one to...nevermind, this is just too inexplicable for me.........so I shall let it lie.....
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Come on, admit it...you would shelter a fugitive? :shock:
 
Tousi said:
I must say, from my view, that I believe there is a large segment of the deaf community that is very sympathetic of John and his family.
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Not surprising with all the things he had to tell the community... Take a look at Sorensons current marketing, same thing.
 
Nine years in federal prison does not mean he will serve all nine years. All federal criminals have what is called "truth-in sentencing" where they must serve 85% of their sentence. John Yeh may be transported to a half-way home or house arrest at some point (like Martha Stewart).
 
posts from hell said:
Not surprising with all the things he had to tell the community... Take a look at Sorensons current marketing, same thing.
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I've heard, many times, that every single one of those VRS companies were doing the same things and they decided to pick the weakest company owned by the deaf who wouldn't have the money and resources to fight charges. Everyone else (practically) got off scott-free.

The Yehs are owning up to it and will probably be out in 4-5 years.
 
jillio said:
Once again, you see this incident in a completely opposite way from the way the D/dea community sees it. Does that tell you anything at all?
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I know members of the Deaf community who believe he was innocent. Granted, one of them is a good friend of his so I kept that in mind while she was sharing information. According to her, he still drives the same 15 year old car, and lives in the same house he's always lived in. So that means either he hid the money in some foreign bank account, or he never got any of that money that was fraudulently received.

I'd appreciate you not making divisive statements about me. :ty:
 
Tousi said:
I've heard, many times, that every single one of those VRS companies were doing the same things and they decided to pick the weakest company owned by the deaf who wouldn't have the money and resources to fight charges. Everyone else (practically) got off scott-free.

The Yehs are owning up to it and will probably be out in 4-5 years.
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I heard that as well.
 
The burden of proof is far heavier in a case like this, and if the court finds him guilty, then, well....
 
Tousi said:
I've heard, many times, that every single one of those VRS companies were doing the same things and they decided to pick the weakest company owned by the deaf who wouldn't have the money and resources to fight charges. Everyone else (practically) got off scott-free.

The Yehs are owning up to it and will probably be out in 4-5 years.
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I bet there is a lot of truth to this. It's sad, but at the same time, how can we sympathize with a criminal? He benefited personally. It's true he may have passed some of the benefits on to his deaf employees, but his actions were first and foremost selfishly motivated, despite all the emotive bullshit about god's plan and immigration and oppression that he discussed in the video.

What I think is really sad is that this guy is going to lose a chunk of his life in prison for stealing a relatively small sum of money from the government (whom is the biggest thief of all!) when compared to the robber barons of Wall Street, who all got off--not just got off, but were allowed to keep all the money they stole from millions of hardworking Americans--without even a slap on the wrist.

Sad day indeed.
 
Beowulf said:
The burden of proof is far heavier in a case like this, and if the court finds him guilty, then, well....
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I completely agree with you. That's why I made the statement in the original post about why the lawyer didn't demonstrate he was defrauded too.

However, I do know that innocent people have been found guilty and served prison/jail sentences. According to someone close to him, she did not believe in any way that he was aware of what was going on. This could be either the good friend not wanting to believe it could be true, or it could be her knowing the person he really is and that he wouldn't have done something like that.

I guess what it boils down to is obviously he was guilty in a court of law.

It is sad to me though; even if he was guilty, that the first Deaf owned VRS had to go down like that.
 
Tousi said:
I've heard, many times, that every single one of those VRS companies were doing the same things and they decided to pick the weakest company owned by the deaf who wouldn't have the money and resources to fight charges. Everyone else (practically) got off scott-free.

The Yehs are owning up to it and will probably be out in 4-5 years.
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I've demonstrated my argument on that here on alldeaf before. Even John Yeh himself said that other VRS were doing it in the video. But that is another thread.

However -

My ex-girlfriend whom I am still friends with told me her POV. She worked for him. I'd like to add a few more details about this relationship but I think it is too personal to share on the forum. What she had to say - I have no doubts he knew.

Do you guys even know what happened *AFTER* the indictment?
 
CSign said:
I know members of the Deaf community who believe he was innocent. Granted, one of them is a good friend of his so I kept that in mind while she was sharing information. According to her, he still drives the same 15 year old car, and lives in the same house he's always lived in. So that means either he hid the money in some foreign bank account, or he never got any of that money that was fraudulently received.

I'd appreciate you not making divisive statements about me. :ty:
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:hmm: Obviously.... You haven't heard about the Cadillac CTS-V in this whole story...
 
CSign said:
I completely agree with you. That's why I made the statement in the original post about why the lawyer didn't demonstrate he was defrauded too.

However, I do know that innocent people have been found guilty and served prison/jail sentences. According to someone close to him, she did not believe in any way that he was aware of what was going on. This could be either the good friend not wanting to believe it could be true, or it could be her knowing the person he really is and that he wouldn't have done something like that.

I guess what it boils down to is obviously he was guilty in a court of law.

It is sad to me though; even if he was guilty, that the first Deaf owned VRS had to go down like that.
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don't be so dramatic.

he's guilty. period.
 
posts from hell said:
I've demonstrated my argument on that here on alldeaf before. Even John Yeh himself said that other VRS were doing it in the video. But that is another thread.

However -

My ex-girlfriend whom I am still friends with told me her POV. She worked for him. I'd like to add a few more details about this relationship but I think it is too personal to share on the forum. What she had to say - I have no doubts he knew.

Do you guys even know what happened *AFTER* the indictment?
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What happened?
 
CSign said:
I know members of the Deaf community who believe he was innocent. Granted, one of them is a good friend of his so I kept that in mind while she was sharing information. According to her, he still drives the same 15 year old car, and lives in the same house he's always lived in. So that means either he hid the money in some foreign bank account, or he never got any of that money that was fraudulently received.

I'd appreciate you not making divisive statements about me. :ty:
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If he was innocent, why did he own up to it?

You made the devisive statement. One only needs look at all the posts respondiing to your sentiments to see that you were on the outside looking in.:cool2:

I'd appreciate it if you once demonstrated the ability to see something from a deaf perspective.
 
posts from hell said:
:hmm: Obviously.... You haven't heard about the Cadillac CTS-V in this whole story...
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I haven't heard about that but I have heard enough about him via PMs to know that odds are good that he knew about what was going on.
 
deafskeptic said:
I haven't heard about that but I have heard enough about him via PMs to know that odds are good that he knew about what was going on.
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If he didn't know what was going on, it raises some serious questions about his ability to run a business. Anyone that is that unaware of what is going on in his own business is guilty of negligence and therefore, guilty by default for not monitoring what was taking place under his own nose.

"I didn't know what was going on" is hardly a credible justification.:cool2:
 
jillio said:
If he didn't know what was going on, it raises some serious questions about his ability to run a business. Anyone that is that unaware of what is going on in his own business is guilty of negligence and therefore, guilty by default for not monitoring what was taking place under his own nose.

"I didn't know what was going on" is hardly a credible justification.:cool2:
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The guy who sent me those PMs was dumfounded I ever looked up to him as a hero for the Deaf community. :P
 
CSign said:
What I want to know though; is if he really didn't know this was happening, why didn't his lawyer prove that he was defrauded by his employees?
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and one more thing - how exactly would his employees get ahold of $2.5 million+ for themselves? They do not have proper authorization to pocket it nor touch corporate account unless higher-ups are involved..... which is John Yeh
 
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