sedated abr testing reliable?

yeah, thats what im telling people..some idiot said he was "stimming" on the carpet..because he was laying there stroking it with his hands..come on, hes also a baby. i mean, yes..if i honestly thought he was autistic, then i wouldnt argue against it so much but hes just too young for that label. i thought of suggesting to this same idiot that i was worried about him being bi-polar, just to see what he said..but i didnt.
 
frankiesmom said:
yeah, thats what im telling people..some idiot said he was "stimming" on the carpet..because he was laying there stroking it with his hands..come on, hes also a baby. i mean, yes..if i honestly thought he was autistic, then i wouldnt argue against it so much but hes just too young for that label. i thought of suggesting to this same idiot that i was worried about him being bi-polar, just to see what he said..but i didnt.
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Oh, please! He is a baby. He takes in information kinesthetically. The same reason a child will rub a blanket to their cheek or refuse to put their head on your shoulder if you are wearing an itchy sweater, or stick things in their mouths to examine them.
 
exactly! now hes never put stuff in his mouth, but thats part of his whole thing he has..but its definitely not autism. ok, here is what i think is just completely nuts. people who self diagnose their kids as being autistic, even after a doctor tells them their kids is hopelessly normal.
 
frankiesmom said:
exactly! now hes never put stuff in his mouth, but thats part of his whole thing he has..but its definitely not autism. ok, here is what i think is just completely nuts. people who self diagnose their kids as being autistic, even after a doctor tells them their kids is hopelessly normal.
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Munchausen's by Proxy. Unbelievably, some people fulfill their need for attention and sympathy from others this way. Sad.
 
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Those behaviors are also in common to types of neurological damages. Hand flapping, toe walking, etc.

I am autistic. An old one before it was fashionable. And there isn't anything wrong with being autistic. Also people have been recovering from autism and leading fairly normal lives since long before it had a name.
 
Bottesini said:
Those behaviors are also in common to types of neurological damages. Hand flapping, toe walking, etc.

I am autistic. An old one before it was fashionable. And there isn't anything wrong with being autistic. Also people have been recovering from autism and leading fairly normal lives since long before it had a name.
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Agreed. As I said it sounds like frankie has more complex nereological issues, rather then
We're not saying that the label autism is bad or anything. We're just saying that it's really inaccurate to label a kid with say....mild but significent social issues (and that's basicly the ONLY obvious issue) has autism. It's pretty much like saying a kid with an obvious learning disabilty has a mental handicap.
 
Bottesini said:
Those behaviors are also in common to types of neurological damages. Hand flapping, toe walking, etc.

I am autistic. An old one before it was fashionable. And there isn't anything wrong with being autistic. Also people have been recovering from autism and leading fairly normal lives since long before it had a name.
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Absolutely nothing wrong with being autistic. But what she described was him rubbing his hand on the carpet, not repetitive behaviors associated with overstimulation. The toe walking, etc. can be evidence of neurological disorders. But they would have shown on his MRI.

You are correct. Autism occurs on a spectrum. As you know it can be anywhere from Asperger's that can't even really be noticed to severe, completely dibillitating austism. Another common misconception is that autistic people have low IQ (below 70). This is a myth. Many people with autism have above average IQ and are extremely creative.

But I do agree with frankiesmom in that he has so many things going on at once, and so many symptoms that could be coming from another etiology, or overlapping with another disorder, that it is really too soon to slap a label on him.
 
oh no, i dont think there is anything wrong with autism either, but i dont want my little one stuck with a label that is completely not him at all.
and oh i hear you about the munchhausens by proxy thing..its pretty sad!
 
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You are correct. Autism occurs on a spectrum. As you know it can be anywhere from Asperger's that can't even really be noticed to severe, completely dibillitating austism. Another common misconception is that autistic people have low IQ (below 70). This is a myth. Many people with autism have above average IQ and are extremely creative.

But I do agree with frankiesmom in that he has so many things going on at once, and so many symptoms that could be coming from another etiology, or overlapping with another disorder, that it is really too soon to slap a label on him.
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On the other hand, jillo why is it that they're so obessed with the fact that autism is a spectrum? You could say the same thing about say cerebal palsy or a learning disabilty or whatever. Granted not all people with autism are the stereotypical mentally handicapped kids who bang their heads against walls or who spend their days poking at the skin on their arms talking about how it's stretchy. (a true example from my college days) But theres a big difference between someone who has "classic" autism (ie very poor spoken language despite perfect hearing, and VERY poor social skills and no eye contact) and someone who is very smart, makes OK eye contact has decent spoken language but has poor (like learning disabled style) social issues. I mean I don't think there's a huge dividing line between autism and Asperger's or even Asperger's and learning disabilty.....Make sense?
 
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On the other hand, jillo why is it that they're so obessed with the fact that autism is a spectrum? You could say the same thing about say cerebal palsy or a learning disabilty or whatever. Granted not all people with autism are the stereotypical mentally handicapped kids who bang their heads against walls or who spend their days poking at the skin on their arms talking about how it's stretchy. (a true example from my college days) But theres a big difference between someone who has "classic" autism (ie very poor spoken language despite perfect hearing, and VERY poor social skills and no eye contact) and someone who is very smart, makes OK eye contact has decent spoken language but has poor (like learning disabled style) social issues. I mean I don't think there's a huge dividing line between autism and Asperger's or even Asperger's and learning disabilty.....Make sense?
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Because it is a disorder that is comprised of a cluster of symptoms, and it is necessary to define it as a spectrum disorder because of the diagnostic criteria.

The other disorders you mentioned occur on a continuum. That is not the same thing as a spectrum.
 
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