Red Tape for Red Cross?

Reba said:
According to the Red Cross:

"You can help the victims of countless crises, like the recent earthquake in Haiti, around the world each year by making a financial gift to the American Red Cross International Response Fund, which will provide immediate relief and long-term support through supplies, technical assistance and other support to help those in need. The American Red Cross honors donor intent. If you wish to designate your donation to a specific disaster, please do so at the time of your donation by mailing your donation with the designation to the American Red Cross, P.O. Box 37243, Washington, D.C. 20013 or to your local American Red Cross chapter. Donations to the International Response Fund can be made by phone at 1-800-REDCROSS or 1-800-257-7575 (Spanish) or online at www.redcross.org."

So, yes, you can designate how your donation is applied.
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You can specify which disaster. You cannot specify how those funds are spent to address the effects of that disaster.
 
I had this discussion with a friend. He asked what I thought of it. And I said this:

I'm on Red Cross's side. They should not waver from the "prime directive". In reality, refusing to help specific groups of people will actually cause more complaining than helping everyone. I'd like to think that helping the bad people is rising above their level and is more likely to do good (set by example) than refusing to help them and alienating them. Obviously, Red Cross should ensure their own safety first before anything else, this may mean avoiding giving help to certain people if they don't want it.

Besides if you don't like what Red Cross does, too bad, it's their decision to make. All you can do (besides complain) is not to donate to them. They are not part of the government.
 
jillio said:
You can specify which disaster. You cannot specify how those funds are spent to address the effects of that disaster.
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That doesn't seem upfront and honest.

If funds designated to help the Haitian earthquake victims are being spent to train Taliban members then the only recourse is to donate one's money to organizations that can be trusted to spend the funds the way the donor wants.
 
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Huh?

The money would go to Haiti survivors, not Afghanistan if it's declared FOR Haiti.

If it is not desginated, or marked as "Afghanistan," they will treat everyone as equal.
 
Reba said:
That doesn't seem upfront and honest.

If funds designated to help the Haitian earthquake victims are being spent to train Taliban members then the only recourse is to donate one's money to organizations that can be trusted to spend the funds the way the donor wants.
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I think most people realize the Red Cross can't be trusted. I have seen them many times first hand. I wouldn't give them a penny.
 
TXgolfer said:
I think most people realize the Red Cross can't be trusted. I have seen them many times first hand. I wouldn't give them a penny.
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same. I don't trust Red Cross either.

Doctors Without Borders? sure.
Riders for Health? yep!
 
Reba said:
That doesn't seem upfront and honest.

If funds designated to help the Haitian earthquake victims are being spent to train Taliban members then the only recourse is to donate one's money to organizations that can be trusted to spend the funds the way the donor wants.
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That is absurd. You specify your donation is to go to help the Haitian earthquake victims, then that is where it is allocated. But you can't specify that your donation is to go only to help the white,Christian earthquake victims. Get it now?
 
If there are Americans in the Red Cross treated the injured Taliban insurgents then why'd Taliban hollers "Death to the Americans! Kill Americans! Praise Allah! Die, Americans, die!"
 
Texan Guy said:
If there are Americans in the Red Cross treated the injured Taliban insurgents then why'd Taliban hollers "Death to the Americans! Kill Americans! Praise Allah! Die, Americans, die!"
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Because they're ungrateful hypocrites?
 
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What so hypocritical about hating the countries that took your political power away from you by force?
 
souggy said:
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What so hypocritical about hating the countries that took your political power away from you by force?
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When they get help from the Red Cross and other similar agencies, why do they kill the non-combatant aid workers? Is that how they show gratitude for the help?
 
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Reba said:
souggy said:
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What so hypocritical about hating the countries that took your political power away from you by force?
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When they get help from the Red Cross and other similar agencies, why do they kill the non-combatant aid workers? Is that how they show gratitude for the help?
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Because it's one messed up political game.
 
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The red cross workers are playing with fire.. If they sign up for these "Islam missions" they should most definitely know what they're in for and better have an "omit out" available.

Should they die in the call of duty, I sure hope they knew what they were asking for.
 
naisho said:
The red cross workers are playing with fire.. If they sign up for these "Islam missions" they should most definitely know what they're in for and better have an "omit out" available.

Should they die in the call of duty, I sure hope they knew what they were asking for.
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From my understanding, they aren't "red cross" in muslim countries, but "red crescent".
 
I remember I read about the commercial side of red cross in some newspapers, but can't find much about it on internet. Part of the problem was that red cross was selective about conflicts they enaged into. There are some stockholders somewhere, and red cross is a private organization and need money to make everything go around.

Some people feel that red cross are unfair when they mostly enage into wars that have the attention from the international media, when red cross at the same time profile themselves as fair and neutral. The reason that Red Cross don't enage into "forgotten" wars, is that it's not profitable enough.

This makes it possible to ask red cross why they help taliban, as red cross allways makes pros and cons when going into a conflict, and some of this is based on cash flow.

I think red cross is doing a great job by the way, and never seen a perfect organization in the bussiness of aid.
 
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naisho said:
The red cross workers are playing with fire.. If they sign up for these "Islam missions" they should most definitely know what they're in for and better have an "omit out" available.

Should they die in the call of duty, I sure hope they knew what they were asking for.
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Of course. And Red Cross workers are well trained regarding cross cultural domains. Much more so than the military going into the same situation. Multiculturalism and an understanding of the particular culture one is going into and the ways in which it will affect interactions and responses is a priority of Red Cross training. Right down to disaster relief workers here in the U.S. They provide training for those going into areas where cultural differences will come into play...for instance, disaster repsonse in rural areas. They are very conscious of the fact that responses, to be effective, must be provided from the cultural standpoint of the culture being entered into.
 
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