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Byrdie714

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1. If you post a thread, wanting people's opinions, advice --but don't like what you read? Why post in the first place?

2. "Not your business" seems to be a common saying on AD--if it's not our business, why are you volunteering your business to begin with?

3. When a poster posts--"the truth" on your thread--why the "hissy fit"?

4. When debating and utilizing the 'ignore list'--you're not really taking in consideration of a different point-of-view, now are you? ( I also have an ignore list just like everyone else....... and guess what? No one is on it. :) )

Any other questions that people can think of when using the AD boards???
 
You create a good thread, Byrdie714!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I will be back to make post here later... (I have to go to pick my son at college up and then to fitness studio.)
 
5. If you say you are accepting of everyone, WHY do some snub noobies and even other members with snarky questions? ( I have seen it a few times so far)

Good points Byrdie :)
 
#2 is the MOST annoying one for me.....if someone puts personal information about themselves on AD, DUH! That person is making it everyone else's business...I just think it is stupid of them to say that BS after sharing personal information for the world to see. :roll:


That's my honest feeling here and if people dont like it, then dont do it!


Why are people so sensitive? There is more to life than AD. Sure, some people have said things to me that I dont like and some things have stung but I dont dwell over it nor make a hissy fit about it.

Sure, I have come hard on some people and I try apologize. That one to AlleyCat...sorry, girl for coming hard on u. I think u deserved an apology. :)


Now, my big question is....why the threatening or harrassing PMs against a member whose POV u dont like? I have had some PMs like that sent to me...if u are upset about something, say that u are upset about this POV or comment but dont call me nasty names or threaten me. It doesnt solve anything. I laugh at those, FYI.
 
#2 is the MOST annoying one for me.....if someone puts personal information about themselves on AD, DUH! That person is making it everyone else's business...I just think it is stupid of them to say that BS after sharing personal information for the world to see. :roll:


That's my honest feeling here and if people dont like it, then dont do it!


Why are people so sensitive? There is more to life than AD. Sure, some people have said things to me that I dont like and some things have stung but I dont dwell over it nor make a hissy fit about it.

Sure, I have come hard on some people and I try apologize. That one to AlleyCat...sorry, girl for coming hard on u. I think u deserved an apology. :)


Now, my big question is....why the threatening or harrassing PMs against a member whose POV u dont like? I have had some PMs like that sent to me...if u are upset about something, say that u are upset about this POV or comment but dont call me nasty names or threaten me. It doesnt solve anything. I laugh at those, FYI.

Good point. All it does is prove that the person isn't......civilized.
 
We share the same views, but I can place myself in the shoes of others and think I can give an idea of why.

Overall, there seems to be really a sketchy boundary line that people can cross. You can debate on an issue with flames if you can keep it on topic, like how well the Israeli thread did until the religion stuff at the end.

But if you start taking things seriously in the thread and causing your opponent to retaliate back in angst, you will know this when the replies aren't related to the topic - this is where it seems to be a big no.

Remember the thread back in Dec. about Obama getting elected, and Af. Ameri's not agreeing with it? One user put out a pretty good and solid viewpoint. Sadly after the other guy provoked using well placed comments that hit their target dead on, the orig. dude launched a full offensive. I have to admit, the link for "anger management techniques" was a real good one, I couldn't stop laughing at that wisecrack. But he did use a verbal threat, and that's where it crossed the line.

I think for one the responses made back towards that person in general stuck with him like getting hit with a stinky poop bomb and the flies aren't going away even after you shoo them. Some people aren't very good with this coping mechanism, it varies from people to people.

I have never used the Ignore List either, For me personally I think its used when you can't handle the peer pressure and have to rely on a third party tool to temporarily do so. It is no different than having to go to an anger management course for that person particularily, yet you don't really learn anything from the class.

Some humans prefer the conception of people agreeing with them. I wouldn't say its attention garnering for the personalities that cherish that, since for everyone is different. It feels as if one day someone reads what others are saying, then they have to echo out what they say or "harp out" on an existing debate by agreeing with another, or fighting fire with fire -- Some of these types either or both can't handle it or never learned how to cope with it when they are under inspection. But they do it to gain respect in the first place, yet this isn't the correct method to do that.

Some are also hypersensitive. Anything that you say can set them off, its a "I'm going to tell on you" ball game that starts.

I also want to voice out something you did not include -- there's a word in german specifically for this, it's called Schadenfreude. This saying, in plain defined English is: delight in another person's misfortune. We have this in various forms over the board. Some people enjoy doing it yet they don't think twice before the other party responds.

Bad? Maybe, in a way, but the way I personally view everything is like a yinyang. The white energy's good, the negative energy is bad. Everything must cycle this way around. If we hypothetically all had agreeing people on the board only, that means every topic all people do is share the same view, the same Yes, yes! Yes! or No, no no! I can tell you that it would be very boring here. The same goes for the opposite, which is negative yang. If all we had here was everyone disagreeing with another (somewhat has been happening lately) then -- I'll leave that blank, you already know how it is. It just needs to be 50/50 in a way and I think all is fair.
 
To anwer the question about the ignore list....I have a few who are on it because of their constant attacks on me as a person but not my POVs.


If that makes me unable to tolerate their comments, then I guess that's the case.


I had another question...but I forgot..grrrr. :) Will come back when I remember it.
 
aww shel it will come back i am sure :)


byrdie you have good point


but speaking of my POV
if people wanted to let us know what they are up to like moving, going on vacation or anything but they don't have to put full details.
i don't usually post that are very offensive or threads that are out of control that why i back off mostly of the time but i did post some not all

no one on my ignore list :)
 
I think one piece of advice we could all benefit from is to not let a debate on whatever topic turn into personal attacks. While we may disagree in our points of view and the way we see things, and while we may discuss issues that are sensitive for some, it only spreads more harm if we let the discussion disintegrate into accusing people. The difference between a constructive debate and a useless debate is that in a constructive one, all participants still have an underlying respect for each other, even when they disagree. If we can keep a underlying thread of respect going, I think our debates will turn out to be much more productive, and allow some of us to really question ourselves.
 
I am the same as Byrdie - I have an ignore list and NO ONE is on it. I try to read all the posts I'm interested in - even if there are posts made by a poster who's POV I disagree with. I can make the choice to either respond to it, or I don't. Simple as that. I don't let myself get a chance to miss out on anyone's POV by adding them to my ignore list. I don't even know where the ignore list is! :lol:
 
I don't have anyone on my ignore list either. Although if other people feel they can't conduct a conversation without putting someone on ignore, then I'm not opposed to it.
 
well, if someone has a pov and I don't agree to it. I normaly don't post about it to try change their opinion. its just to each their own. I do my best to respect one others, but not always of course. I've been tired of being a bait so I don't get the same respect (not about alldeaf) its in real life. but then yea theres no need to attack someones pov of course. its like trying to attack a big woman who has her own pov but she wouldn't take ur advice to lose the weight because its rude. sorry for the run on paragraph.
 
Excellent points made by all. BTW...I don't have anyone on my ignore list, either, although I have heard through the grapevine that I am on several.:lol:
 
Excellent points made by all. BTW...I don't have anyone on my ignore list, either, although I have heard through the grapevine that I am on several.:lol:

LOL!

Oh, my other question that I had forgotten earlier...

#6. If one makes a POV and someone else is question you about your POV, why is that considered offensive? Either answer the question or just ignore it. Sometimes questions are to make sure no assumptions are made but too often I see people get offended by the questions asked. Just curious...
 
LOL!

Oh, my other question that I had forgotten earlier...

#6. If one makes a POV and someone else is question you about your POV, why is that considered offensive? Either answer the question or just ignore it. Sometimes questions are to make sure no assumptions are made but too often I see people get offended by the questions asked. Just curious...

That is a good question, too. People seem to get very defensive over questions.
 
mm. i feel your post is pretty well biased to your own opinion.

no.3 for example? the truth? well it may well be yours but it's not everyone's cup of tea nor always factfull.

I don't frequent the iste as much as others, but(and I include myself in this) some people are very opinionated, adn dont seem to agree that others may have justification for their beliefs, so it becoms some mad for all topic of veiled insults.
it's easy to post a thread like this, what I don't liek about others doing, but i bet if we hunted, you will ahve been guilty for at least one of them, the most probelms arise thorugh soem people throwing ahissy fit when they dont get the feedback/support or anythign back to their post.
we are all different.
 
mm. i feel your post is pretty well biased to your own opinion.

no.3 for example? the truth? well it may well be yours but it's not everyone's cup of tea nor always factfull.

I don't frequent the iste as much as others, but(and I include myself in this) some people are very opinionated, adn dont seem to agree that others may have justification for their beliefs, so it becoms some mad for all topic of veiled insults.
it's easy to post a thread like this, what I don't liek about others doing, but i bet if we hunted, you will ahve been guilty for at least one of them, the most probelms arise thorugh soem people throwing ahissy fit when they dont get the feedback/support or anythign back to their post.
we are all different.

Suppose someone posts this...

Where does milk come from?

someone posts that they come from cows..

then someone gets into a hissy fit about milk coming from cows.

I think that was what Byrdie was referring to...truth with facts not opinioned.
 
I simply won't use the ignore list on virtue, a big purpose of discussions is to see what everybody believes and talk about it. If you're going to ignore one opinion, even if you find it horribly offensive, then you've missed the entire point of reading the whole thing.

And very good points Byrdie, sums it up in a nutshell for me.
 
oh to add I don't have anyone on my iggy list either.
 
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