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Cloggy said:
You mean this one...

Ah.... bike, motorbike..... they are the same... you bike....
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jillio said:
They are both 2 wheeled vehicles, with improved transportation over walking being the intended outcome. The variance lies in speed of reaching the destination. Thanks for supporting the point of the thread. I knew you would get it sooner or later.
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:wiggle: See - I'm very much on topic.... Haven't been off-topic at all....

jillio said:
The answer to your question is contained in another thread...unfortunately, however, the claims contained in the posts of another member have been removed from that thread. Suffice it to say that clarification was needed.
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Convenient... you're sure it's not this one...
 
Cloggy said:
:wiggle: See - I'm very much on topic.... Haven't been off-topic at all....


Convenient... you're sure it's not this one...
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You started to stay on topic but then diverted yet again. But at least the learning process has begun. We can only hope that it continues for you.
 
jillio said:
You started to stay on topic but then diverted yet again. But at least the learning process has begun. We can only hope that it continues for you.
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You said "The answer to your question is contained in another thread....unfortunately, however, the claims contained in the posts of another member have been removed from that thread." and I am helping you to find it.....
How is that off-topic?

(NOW I'm offtopic...)
 
Cloggy said:
You said "The answer to your question is contained in another thread....unfortunately, however, the claims contained in the posts of another member have been removed from that thread." and I am helping you to find it.....
How is that off-topic?

(NOW I'm offtopic...)
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Figure it out, cloggy, figure it out. And while you are doing that, stick to the topic. I refer you back to the origninal question.
 
jillio said:
If the intent of any assistive devise is to improve sound perception, and an HA, through amplification, allows a deaf/hoh individual to perceive sounds in a decible and frequency that is not possible without HA, han't sound perception been improved, no matter the route the deivise takes?

More perception in previously not perceived areas would be considered improvement, would it not?
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Listening to the experiences of people that have worn HA's and changed to CI, the experience is so completely different that even though a theoretical answer could be "yes", the practical answer is "NO"..

Apparently, the "route the device takes" does make all the difference..

Jillio: Going from "Black/White" to "Colors" .... did the colors improve?
 
jillio said:
They are both 2 wheeled vehicles, with improved transportation over walking being the intended outcome. The variance lies in speed of reaching the destination. Thanks for supporting the point of the thread. I knew you would get it sooner or later.
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So, with your reasoning; a car is just a better bike !
 
Actually it was DD that started the whole thing by MISLEADING the reader of AD... I had to correct her!
http://www.alldeaf.com/hearing-aids-cochlear-implants/50996-your-my-opinion-about-ci.html#post951793

and the thread was closed BUT DD was stubborn...
http://www.alldeaf.com/hearing-aids-cochlear-implants/51021-ci-advanced-hearing-aid.html

And it was closed But Jillio was stubborn and created this thread, "Question".

some of what was said in either of those thread comes from this thread regarding "Assistive Listening Devices"
http://www.alldeaf.com/sign-language-oralism/50740-what-alexander-graham-bell-company.html

They are trying to include CI and HA under the definition of "ALD" when HA and CI are NOT "Assistive Listening Devices" AT all..
http://www.alldeaf.com/sign-language-oralism/50740-what-alexander-graham-bell-company.html

I provided the links to prove that they are not ALD at all...
http://www.alldeaf.com/hearing-aids-cochlear-implants/51093-question.html#post953326
 
Since this thread became too argumentative, I'm locking this thread.
 
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