Question about CI

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faire_jour said:
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you don't have to be reimplanted until the device stops working. That could be 20 years after surgery, or unfortuantely, 20 minutes. It all depends on the actual device that goes inside you. I know of people who still have their devices from the 90's and others who are much less lucky.

as for the "attached to the brain" garbage. The electrodes lie inside the cochlea, inside the inner ear. It does not touch the nerve. Also, the rest of the device is outside the skull, just under the skin. Still not touching or "attached to the brain" whatsoever.
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Watch youtube - there's nothing scientific about putting an electrode into a cochlea... Even you could do it once its opened for you.
 
posts from hell said:
Watch youtube - there's nothing scientific about putting an electrode into a cochlea... Even you could do it once its opened for you.
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And this confirms for you "attached to the brain"... how?

About your totally irrelevant post regarding science.... You really have no clue about the size of the cochlea, the size of the electrodes and how far they optimally should be inserted....
Perhaps things look easier on YouTube...
 
Cloggy said:
And this confirms for you "attached to the brain"... how?

About your totally irrelevant post regarding science.... You really have no clue about the size of the cochlea, the size of the electrodes and how far they optimally should be inserted....
Perhaps things look easier on YouTube...
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see my previous posts.
 
posts from hell said:
One could interpret that differently, It's stuck to a nerve ending, no? That connects to the brain, so in a way its attached to the brain.
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The electrode array isn't attached to the brain or stuck to the nerve ending: it is threaded through the cochlea and placed very close to the auditory nerve, in relation to the nerve fibers responsible for transmitting speech sounds when stimulated. Individual channels are said to 'fail' or shut down if they are in a position where the electrical connection can't be made from electrode to nerve fibers. Often it's not so much a 'device' failure, but a surgical placement issue that can cause the electrical stimulation not to happen.

My daughter has one channel that was determined not to be transmitting on the operating table. Doesn't mean the CI is 'broken', but simply that this electrode, this channel, isn't in place to send the signal as planned. So, that one was shut down and another programmed to pick up the sounds in its place. Impedance -- or measure of the signal -- for each channel is tested at each mapping. If too many (I think it's ~ 7 or 9+ channels, but there's some magic number used) are no longer sending signals, the sound quality is so greatly reduced that's it's considered a failure -- because the quality ends up being much like some of the earlier generations of CIs that people often refer to online as being examples of what people hear with CIs.

It's pretty common for people to experience these channel failures, and yet, like my daughter, to still have extremely good access to sound. When the whole device shuts down, that's more rare and requires reimplantation, rather than just adjusting the programming.

A study or data that details results at a particular clinic or hospital, as well as results specific to particular types of CIs, such as this one referred to, is very important. A friend who is a surgeon and I reviewed similar data at two hospitals we were considering, as well as results for individual surgeons, and we chose our clinic, and our CI, and our very experienced surgeon intentionally, looking at such outcomes.
 
posts from hell said:
One could interpret that differently, It's stuck to a nerve ending, no? That connects to the brain, so in a way its attached to the brain.

Then again, I am not the type to say "oh that one sentence is not credible, therefore the whole message is not honest" and stick my head up my butt.
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Well.... I'm sorry but I thought you were just being funny.... since that nerve is also connected to the cochlea, to the middle ear, the throat, the stomach... the bowels and lower regions...
So you were serious?
(btw.. still not seeing the "science and easy" connection..)
 
Thank you for whose people who answered about the second time of having surgery.
 
I'm 10 years and 11 months post implant, my implant is working normally. 3 of my electrodes never was turned on due to something.
 
I have no idea that a few electrodes can go wrong that there is nothing to do about it.
 
It's stuck to a nerve ending, no? That connects to the brain,
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By this logic, the nerves from the rectum are connected to the brain, too.

Fuzzy
 
posts from hell said:
...right. And I googled it all up... Seems credible.
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Actually, the electrodes are sending electical impulses directly to specific areas of the brain. That is what mapping is all about. Adjusting the areas that are receiving the electrical impluses. So it is connected to the brain in the same way that the a healthy cochlea is connected to the brain.
 
jillio said:
They are. You obviously have some learning to do.
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I think audiofuzzy needs a few biological lessons or - more accurately - a few anatomy lessons. I recommend Gray's Anatomy for a brief study of the human nervous system.
 
deafskeptic said:
I think audiofuzzy needs a few biological lessons or - more accurately - a few anatomy lessons. I recommend Gray's Anatomy for a brief study of the human nervous system.
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me too I know her personal too much :laugh2: she lots blahahah thread crazy!
 
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