Pressing charge?

Jolie_77 said:
Since you said the police told you that you couldn't press charges against that 9 years old boy and the mother is not doing any jack about it. Try going after the mother and press the charges on the mother since after all, I agree with you - it is the parent's responsibility to take care of the situation and to resolve the situation. Unfortunately in your case, it didn't do much help when you tried to take it to the police. What I meant by taking it in your own hands is to try to take it to your lawyer or some other kind of help to see if they will help you with the situation to press the charges against the mother or something like that. I am also with you on wanting the boy to be punished because it is nuts to be beating another child (your child that is) and it has went too far to be un-neccessary.

That brings me up a thought - What has got into that boy to do something like that? Was he taught to be like this or has his parents treated him horribly in order for him to turn it out like this?

I wish it was that easy, being a single mom with one income is pretty tough call for me as getting a lawyer. Lawyers nowdays are too expensive to afford. Got another plan? :)

I have no idea why he acts the way he is, When I first met him, he was always lying about everything, stealing things even one time I caught him trying to steal a bike next door, I yelled back at him and said, "Hey, What are you doing? Don't even think about it kid!" he got scared and ran off, I wouldn't know about his parents, I do know his father works a lot and the mother is a stay home mother of 8 children. One time, The 9 years old threw a water balloon at an older lady that walked on the sidewalk carrying her bags, he threw it right at her, she jumped and was pretty upset, and his mother saw it all and laughed it off. I was like wtf!
 
Cheri said:
I wish it was that easy, being a single mom with one income is pretty tough call for me as getting a lawyer. Lawyers nowdays are too expensive to afford. Got another plan? :)

I have no idea why he acts the way he is, When I first met him, he was always lying about everything, stealing things even one time I caught him trying to steal a bike next door, I yelled back at him and said, "Hey, What are you doing? Don't even think about it kid!" he got scared and ran off, I wouldn't know about his parents, I do know his father works a lot and the mother is a stay home mother of 8 children. One time, The 9 years old threw a water balloon at an older lady that walked on the sidewalk carrying her bags, he threw it right at her, she jumped and was pretty upset, and his mother saw it all and laughed it off. I was like wtf!

I can understand that being a single mother on one income is a tall order to have a lawyer and I agree, it is expensive to have a lawyer. I was just trying to think of other options that could be much of a help to you. I am not familiar with how it works over there in Ohio... but perhaps you can try reporting it to the "Department OF Youth Services" and state your reason why the mother and the son was not doing things that were not needed to do or whatever it is...

No kidding, the mother laughed it off when her son threw a water balloon at the older lady? That is definitely fk'd up and whacked. If it was my son, I would be pissed as hell and do a disclipine on him and make him apologize to the old lady.
 
Sounds like the only thing you can really do now, is keep the boy from hurting your son again. Does this kid go to your son's school? If so, you might want to have a word with the principle at the beginning of the school year. Tell the principle of the trouble you've had with this kid, and see if someone can't keep an eye on your son for you. That's for when school starts.

I'm sure you've already done this, but keep the kid away from your son. Make sure someone is home with the boys at all times, and have someone supervise the boys as they are playing. This way, if the kid comes over again, an adult will be there to step in, if needed.

I'm sorry your son was hurt so badly, Cheri. No child deserves that. I hope he's okay.

You may want to also talk to your son, and tell him this wasn't his fault. He may feel somewhat responsible for what this kid did to him, and from the soudns of it, he wasn't. Make sure he knows he wasn't!
 
^Angel^ said:
The police won't do anything about it just because the boy is only 9 years old? and the police said if this boy does it again, they will finally do something about it? what if he end up killing someone? is that how far the police willing to let this young boy go?...I'm sorry I haven't posted anything since I arrived home, but Roadrunner filled me in about this situation, and I'll be coming over your house in a little bit... Aww sis I'm very sorry to hear what happened to them over the weekend, will get to the bottom of this once I get there....
Yep, Exactly my point, When I asked the officer, if he can only get arrest unless he does a crime that results in the death of another human being, or my son? And he said, Again, "You cannot press assault charge against a child who is 9 years old", If he murder someone, Yes he would be arrested on a charge of manslaughter. If he assault Jordan again, he would be send to Juvenile detention. Whatever!
 
I'm sorry to hear about Cheri's kid :(
I cannot advise anything since I'm not american but I hope everything goes well for Cheri and her kids.
 
I just read this.. I can't believe this happened and the cops did nothing! I would be pissed! I'm so sorry you're going thru that ordeal. That isn't fair. The best thing now is to keep an eye on the 9 year old boy. Hugs, Cheri. I know the feeling having a child that's getting bullied. My daughter went thru the same thing but there was no physical abuse involved. Just take pictures of all the bruises he has and save it. the next time he does it again then call the police right away and take him to the e.r. and do the physical exam and check if there's no broken bones or anything like that.

I'm sorry, hugs!
 
RebelGirl said:
I just read this.. I can't believe this happened and the cops did nothing! I would be pissed! I'm so sorry you're going thru that ordeal. That isn't fair. The best thing now is to keep an eye on the 9 year old boy. Hugs, Cheri. I know the feeling having a child that's getting bullied. My daughter went thru the same thing but there was no physical abuse involved. Just take pictures of all the bruises he has and save it. the next time he does it again then call the police right away and take him to the e.r. and do the physical exam and check if there's no broken bones or anything like that.

I'm sorry, hugs!
He has no broken bones or no injury to the brain, He was seen in the ER this very early morning, I had no sleep at all since I've got home at 4 am this morning. He did had a swollen below his eye and I was told to applied ice pack, and he got a few scratches from the brush and bruises as well. I was also told that the brush broke while he was striking my son with it. That's how hard he hitted my son. :( I kept thinking, the horror Jordan must have felt during the attacked. It broke my heart. Jordan is now doing okay and he is being his usual self. I'm surprised to see how tuff and brave he is with all that had happened to him on Saturday. If I was there, that 9 years old would be very sorry that he ever met me. :whistle:
 
Cheri said:
He has no broken bones or no injury to the brain, He was seen in the ER this very early morning, I had no sleep at all since I've got home at 4 am this morning. He did had a swollen below his eye and I was told to applied ice pack, and he got a few scratches from the brush and bruises as well. I was also told that the brush broke while he was striking my son with it. That's how hard he hitted my son. :( I kept thinking, the horror Jordan must have felt during the attacked. It broke my heart. Jordan is now doing okay and he is being his usual self. I'm surprised to see how tuff and brave he is with all that had happened to him on Saturday. If I was there, that 9 years old would be very sorry that he ever met me. :whistle:
can you call CPS (child protective service) on them to see what the heck is going on over there, and also I suggest you to talk to a lawyer to see what he/she has to say about this situation!


** Don't let them beat you to this, Keep your head up**
 
RoyalMajesty said:
can you call CPS (child protective service) on them to see what the heck is going on over there, and also I suggest you to talk to a lawyer to see what he/she has to say about this situation!
I'm not calling on them, because I would need hard evidence to report, which I don't have. I have not seen the mother nor father ever beaten on that kid, or anything like that. Just because a kid is a bully doesn't mean that the kid been in a bad home, It would be that he likes the power of beaten up kids younger than him, nor that his parent hasn't taught him from wrong and right. I already stated that a lawyer is out of question, Read above to my respond to Jolie_77. If I talked to a lawyer, there is nothing I can do in order to have him work on my case when I cannot afford to get one. :)

Jordan's eye is improving so much since this morning, after a ice pack was applied, He's doing much better. And I'm glad he is. But, still I am working on another plan to come up with about this kid. I'm going to talk to a court clerk to see what advices this person could give me to help bring justice for Jordan. :)
 
I cant believe that police did nothing wow.. But i pray for jordan getting better soon smile.. :hug:
 
Cheri said:
I'm not calling on them, because I would need hard evidence to report, which I don't have. I have not seen the mother nor father ever beaten on that kid, or anything like that. Just because a kid is a bully doesn't mean that the kid been in a bad home, It would be that he likes the power of beaten up kids younger than him, nor that his parent hasn't taught him from right and wrong. I already stated that a lawyer is out of question, Read above to my respond to Jolie_77. If I talked to a lawyer, there is nothing I can do in order to have him work on my case when I cannot afford to get one. :)

Jordan's eye is improving so much since this morning, after a ice pack was applied, He's doing much better. And I'm glad he is. But, still I am working on another plan to come up with about this kid. I'm going to talk to a court clerk to see what advices this person could give me to help bring justice for Jordan. :)
Okay do what you think its right!! Thats all what it matters.... Well I just thought maybe a lawyer wouldve helped in a way... some are fair about the fees and etc... If you are just going to go in and talk to a lawyer and ask questions to find out what to do and do what its right. It cost $50 just to ask questions and find the right answers. I know you stated that you cant afford to get one, but if you got something better in mind then go for it. I know stuff about lawyers because I got a lawyer. It does cost a lot, mine was *ahem* a lot! and still paying for a lawyer since this isn't over with...(personal issues)
But But $50 isn't bad to ask lawyers for advice.... But going to court clerk is another thing...About the parents, You don't have to see them or whatsoever, however the kid is a bully and apparently he has learned it from his parents.... But still he need to be sent to a group home to get his act strighten out, and CPS will go through the househld and they will either figure it out rather he needs to be taken away or etc.... It seems to me that the parents are whack and don't give a shit about their son what he does outside of the house.... But your idea isn't bad tho.... Stick with your plan!! :)
 
TweetyBird said:
I cant believe that police did nothing wow.. But i pray for jordan getting better soon smile.. :hug:
Me too. :( I was pretty shocked to learn that nothing could be done today, I don't understand why action cannot be taken, just because he is only 9 years old? That's so unfair the same time I do understand that it happens every day when a kid being beaten up by another kid, but it shouldn't happen that way, if action was taken place, there's a possibility that he would not strike again. Am I correct?


Thanks Tania for putting Jordan in your prayer. ;) I gotta get off line now, I'll talk to you all later. ;)
 
*Breathing breaking my heart goes out for your son* btw Im glad your son is okay but hate seeing he gets bruised coming from bully boy! Geez!

What?!?, Police cannot do anything.. Wha.. heck the problem about Parent aren't responbile part lack of displince ? Call Child protection Agency and tell what happend the bully boy did beaten up your son.. The worker can rights questionaire on bully boy's parent... TOO BAD.. be tough they are not good job supervisoring their child "unattended children while playing outside".. Making sumth'n you can point it out!

I hope your son's condition get heal real soon.
 
Cheri, I was just wondering if there is a law against bullying. Do you or anyone else know if there is one?
 
ButterflyGirl said:
Cheri, I was just wondering if there is a law against bullying. Do you or anyone else know if there is one?
Thats why I posted a few free lawyers advice online.... Maybe she could ask them online to see what they got to say... It doesn't hurt to ask.... I honestly don't think there is a law against bullying... *rubbing my chin* But I hope things turn out good for them
 
Oh my goodness. I am so sorry to hear this. :hug: to Cheri and her boys.

I understand that you dont have enough evidence against that boy to DHS. I would talk to the principle at the school before the school start and make sure your sons get the proctection from the school. I know the school wont allow bully at all. Wish you the best of luck my sweet friend.
 
Cheri,
First, I am sorry to hear about what happened to your son...no child deserves that from bullies. I know I'm often here defending officers, but in this case, I would disagree (to an extent) how the officer handled it.

In Maryland, I can charge a 9 year old with assault. Your state might be different...and it may not be the officer refusing to charge, but it could be that he cannot make the charge. I do not know off the top of my head what Ohio law says in regards to assaults and how young an offender can be to be arrested, but I did find something in an article:

But in 2002, Ohio also toughened laws for serious youthful offenders and lowered the age to 10 that juveniles could be detained in state and county treatment facilities. It was the first new law addressing juvenile offender issues in nearly three decades.

If that law still stands, and assault means incarceration in your state, then that means the 9 year old would be too young to be detained (not meaning charged, but detained). I do not know what the mininum age is in your state.
Again, it could be that the officer cannot charge him, and as much as we would like to, we can't lock everyone up because we think they should go to jail...but a matter of what the law says. If the law says I arrest for it, then I arrest. If the law says I cannot arrest, then I cannot arrest. (for example, in Maryland, I cannot arrest for a 2nd degree assault if it did not occur in my presence...meaning if you are hanging out and a neigbor punches you in the face and you call the police...by law I cannot arrest. More on that in a moment).

Now, there are probably more options available to you. Do you have a DJJ (Department of Juvenile Services)? This isn't like social workers checking the welfare of the children, house, etc...it is the legal system for juveniles..much like our Adult court system. You may have the option to go to DJJ (or whatever your agency is) and take out the charges yourself. You could also talk to your courthouse to see about taking the charges out there. I cannot answer for Ohio law so I do not know what your procedures are.

In Maryland, an adult cannot take out charges against a juvenile..the police have to do it. If you were in Maryland, I would have arrested the kid with no problem. I make the arrest based on your statements about what occurred. In Maryland, a person cannot go to the courthouse to take out charges against a juvenile (only for adults), but it can be done through our DJJ system.

There are some flaws with our system though. For example, I do agree that kids to fight and sometimes get hurt...kids have not changed in hundreds of years and probably will never change...BUT Today I received a call for a fight in progress on a street in our projects. I get there and its a bunch of juveniles that had been fighting (broke up when they heard my sirens). I talk to the kids and I talk to the parents...I say 'Do you want them charged?' and they say Yes. I go around the circle and everyone says yes. Do you know what this means? It means that today I had to arrest 5 juveniles aged 11 to 14 who were all in a mutual fight...nobody injured. Then moms start asking "why are you charging my kid..." and I explain that the other kid wants to take out charges...so everyone is getting locked up. This situation is much different than yours, and I only mention it to give you an example of how Maryland law is set up. 2 kids fight, either both go to jail for assault or neither do.

I'm sure you have more options available to you... I would start with contacting juvenile services or whatever your local agency is.

One thing that I think you should consider also is talking to management at your apartment complex. If you are in an apartment, then I assume you are renting/leasing. Oftentimes, things like this are against the lease. Go to managment there and tell them what happened (not just with your son but the other incidents). They may not kick them out now but at least you get the process starting and when more people complain, something will be done.
 
Cheri, I am so sorry for ur son being bullied, and I am surprised cops did nothing but told u not play around that bully boy, it's unfair, imo :mad: What about the bully boy walks nearby ur apartment does ur sons suppose to move away from him, like u said the bully boy has told other boys false story, huh? seems like cops didnt tell the bully boy not to play around ur son, but the bully boy was able to walk to talk nearby ur apartment with other boys :shakehead:

I hope ur son get well soon. Maybe he would go classes or sport to keep away from neighbors whoever believes in that bully boy and are friends with him.
 
Thanks Taylor for your insight, We do not know if we have a Department of Juvenile Services, but I believe we have a court which called Juvenile Hall as I believe which that located downtown of Cleveland as I recalling remember that name by the Child Support Enforcement office. Thanks for pulling up Ohio's law on youths, I didn't realized the age of 10 was the proper age to begin with. When I asked around my hometown early morning about the certain age, Nobody knew. I wish I live in Maryland so you could make that arrest.

I don't live at the apartments where the 9 years old live at, the apartments is between the day care and another house, while I live next to the daycare, a house so it's really close...

When I went in the district court where I live, they couldn't do much for me because the attacker was only the age of 9, but suggested me to take them to a small claim court for money judgment on the party to pay my son's medical bill and plus a pain and suffering settlement, She said that I'll be entitled to win the case. But, I don't want the money, I just want this kid to be punish.

I want to ask you about the Restraining order, am I allow to file one on a 9 years old child to keep him away from Jordan? I wish I know the Ohio laws based on youths assault and restraining order, but I'm afraid I'm clueless in that department. In the meantime I'll find out more information at the Juvenile Hall.

Thanks everyone else for your support, suggestions and having a heart to care about my 6 years old son. It is greatly appreciated.
 
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