Petition: Please shorten a ban

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This was suggested in a different thread.

I hope it is allowed.

This thread is to collect signatures to ask Alex to please shorten Jillio's ban.

Please ADers sign.

Thanks in advance to any of you who sign this.
 
How long is she banned for? Where can I find information about being banned? Looked in the FAQ, didn't see it anywhere?
 
Daredevel7 said:
How long is she banned for? Where can I find information about being banned? Looked in the FAQ, didn't see it anywhere?
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Jiro said 30 days. He put the rules in Return of the Banned People part 2
 
so, popularity bends the rules.... maybe the real popular people should be able to break all the rules and never have any consequences whatsoever... :roll:
 
*signing in FRISKY FELINE*

HAVE JILLIO COME BACK SHORTER THAN 30 days.
 
I vote for jillio to come back before 30 days.
 
I will probably pass on strongly advocating this particular petition, stating my opinion for those interested.

A sting from a not too long ago feels to me as if two really wanted me off the board for what I did and still do, and the fact I exhibit behavior that is generally considered "intolerable".
Remember, I got bashed for favoritism, this is in similar context.

So just being fair and saying that I do not see eye-level on it for personal reasons.

I would be willing to say that the ban for the duration isn't worth the length, however.
30 days for a debating personality trait is quite hefty to live up with.
I feel as if by the time is over, they have definitely got to have gotten over with what they did long before then.
If they can't, well, that's too bad.
 
Well... Why did she get ban for? If good reason then Im back off. If bad reason then let her come back that's it.
 
C.C.Sinned said:
so, popularity bends the rules.... maybe the real popular people should be able to break all the rules and never have any consequences whatsoever... :roll:
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C.C.Sinned said:
favoritism will become a problem all over again. :sure:
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naisho said:
I will probably pass on strongly advocating this particular petition, stating my opinion for those interested.

A sting from a not too long ago feels to me as if two really wanted me off the board for what I did and still do, and the fact I exhibit behavior that is generally considered "intolerable".
Remember, I got bashed for favoritism, this is in similar context.

So just being fair and saying that I do not see eye-level on it for personal reasons.

I would be willing to say that the ban for the duration isn't worth the length, however.
30 days for a personality trait is quite hefty to live up with.
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I hate to say it, but I agree.

I happen to like Jillio a great deal, but I don't think it's wise to bend the rules for a single person. I've been here awhile and things were a complete mess. Favoritism was rampant. The rules are in place for a reason and must be followed. I'm sure Jilliio would agree to this.

At any rate, this is also coming from someone who has been banned before, and for an extended period of time.

Hopefully, Jillio keep herself outta trouble.
 
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Hear Again said:
I have to say that I understand why Jillio responds the way she does. Sometimes political threads can get very heated. I know that if it weren't for my Clonazepam (please don't flame me because this is pertinent to the discussion), I would have been banned for the 5th time and eventually, the 6th. Aside from that, counselors aren't perfect. They're human too.
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yes but major difference is - counselors are trained NOT to let their emotions to take over their objectivity. I recognize the fact that Jillio is the valuable and major contributor to AD but the fact remains that she still haven't been able to show a restraint in herself from enticing/provoking/sarcasm especially after several warnings and few bans. I'm also guilty of it but I know when to stop. That's why I'm disappointed in her. So no I will not sign the petition. She broke the rule and she must pay for it. I have to do same as well. simple as that. Of course... I understand that the rules & punishment can be bended/overlooked. If Alex/mods shortened it, cool... If not... oh well.

IMO - a couple weeks will do for her... A month is too long and I need somebody opposite of me to bicker with. :mad2:
 
First of all - This needs to be cleared up.

When a member is banned - They are expected to be followed by the ban time line that is provided in the forum rules.

In this case Jillio was banned for a good reason. It is not because of her personality trait that resulted in her ban. When a member is banned, it should not be any of one's concern as to why they are banned. That is between the moderators/admin and the banned member.

There are protocols for the ban as it has been shown over and over again.

If you guys feel that the ban time line needs to be modified or shortened; Take it up with the admin (Alex in this case) because after all, He is the one that decides the ban time line.

When a member has been previously banned for 24 hours, and when there's another ban that occurs, that member will be given 48 hours ban, so and on until that member receives the permanent ban. I happen to think that the ban time line is reasonable and fair for all of us here because you don't see a lot of flexibility on the ban procedure in a lot of various forums. Some forums will give you a permanent ban on ONE try, That's how cold it can be.

As for favoritism - We do not lift a ban for someone who happens to be well-liked on AllDeaf. That is not how it works. If a banned member wants to have their ban lifted, They will need to contact the moderator who gave him/her the ban to work out on a compromise.

When a moderator gives out a ban (we don't like it but we will if we have to provided what the reasons were for) - We will follow it with the ban record we have on each member.

I hope this clears it up. If there's any question, Feel free to ask or to do so.

Thank You. :)
 
It takes a long time to get to the 30 day suspension as the next is a permaban. I guess it takes a type A personality to get there or a similar personality.

I agree with those who brought up the favoritism perspective.
 
It's very nice of you to put forth this petition for your friend, she's lucky to have you in her corner. Unfortunately I too agree that to shorten the length of time she is banned would be inappropriate. If we were calling to overhaul the entire banning procedure for all members, I might consider going on board but for an individual basis, this would be a case of favoritism. A month is quite some time but this isn't her first offense. Hopefully it will be her last, I enjoy reading her input!
 
Ah, I would be all in favor for shortening her ban but that would make me just as wrong as those who played favorism a few years back. I really sincerely hope this will be her last ban as I really learn a lot from her level of writing and enjoy the banter with her.
 
Jiro said:
yes but major difference is - counselors are trained NOT to let their emotions to take over their objectivity. I recognize the fact that Jillio is the valuable and major contributor to AD but the fact remains that she still haven't been able to show a restraint in herself from enticing/provoking/sarcasm especially after several warnings and few bans. I'm also guilty of it but I know when to stop. That's why I'm disappointed in her. So no I will not sign the petition. She broke the rule and she must pay for it. I have to do same as well. simple as that. Of course... I understand that the rules & punishment can be bended/overlooked. If Alex/mods shortened it, cool... If not... oh well.

IMO - a couple weeks will do for her... A month is too long and I need somebody opposite of me to bicker with. :mad2:
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The problem is that you and many others enjoy the bickering with her and people end up getting banned. It seems like we cant bicker here on AD even though the parties involved are ok with it.
 
C.C.Sinned said:
so, popularity bends the rules.... maybe the real popular people should be able to break all the rules and never have any consequences whatsoever... :roll:
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It has happened before a few years ago so why the complaining?
 
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