Petition against Staples cut hours

They aren't the only company to do this. It's happening all over. Companies can't afford to stay the way they were after Obamacare. To stay in business, they need to cut the employee's hours.

Hardee's said they would sell cheaper quality meat to make up for Obamacare.

Changes are going to be made one way or another in order to fight Obamacare.
 
MangaReader said:
They aren't the only company to do this. It's happening all over. Companies can't afford to stay the way they were after Obamacare. To stay in business, they need to cut the employee's hours.

Hardee's said they would sell cheaper quality meat to make up for Obamacare.

Changes are going to be made one way or another in order to fight Obamacare.
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I believe that those businesses do this because they want BIG profits. Nothing new.
 
Manga is right, it's the start of Obamacare in a few days... it will start to roll in affecting employers and making cuts. It's not going to be pretty in the next few years. :(
 
Calvin said:
Manga is right, it's the start of Obamacare in a few days... it will start to roll in affecting employers and making cuts. It's not going to be pretty in the next few years. :(
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Why? Does ACA cost the employers more when they are required to provide health benefits? I haven't seen any evidence on that yet.
 
The health care cost is going up and insurance changes that will affect the employers. We'll see less full time jobs out there.. pensions will be cut. Small business has or will be hurting more.

CrazyPaul said:
Why? Does ACA cost the employers more when they are required to provide health benefits? I haven't seen any evidence on that yet.
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Calvin said:
The health care cost is going up and insurance changes that will affect the employers. We'll see less full time jobs out there.. pensions will be cut. Small business has or will be hurting more.
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If a small business cuts their employees hours they're doing it because a) they are assholes and just want to and taking advantage of people's ignorance to the law or b) they themselves are ignorant to the law.

A small business is one that has less than 50 employees, and they are not required to provide health insurance. Their only requirement is to notify employees of being able to get insurance on the exchange. That's it.

It's big business that will "hurt" and if they do this stuff it's because it will hurt their shareholders profits.
 
MangaReader said:
They aren't the only company to do this. It's happening all over. Companies can't afford to stay the way they were after Obamacare. To stay in business, they need to cut the employee's hours.

Hardee's said they would sell cheaper quality meat to make up for Obamacare.

Changes are going to be made one way or another in order to fight Obamacare.
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Before Obamacare: Your insurance company could take your money and give you no benefits based on fees and pre-existing conditions. And, there was nothing you could do about it.

After Obamacare: Insurance companies can no longer steal from you and have to give you the services for which you pay.

If being held up by insurance companies(no different than being robbed at gunpoint), makes people feel wealthier, so be it. But, you are not any better off than you were before. The only difference between then and now is that you didn't get sick and the insurance companies got rich. Sound good?
 
VacationGuy234 said:
Before Obamacare: Your insurance company could take your money and give you no benefits based on fees and pre-existing conditions. And, there was nothing you could do about it.

After Obamacare: Insurance companies can no longer steal from you and have to give you the services for which you pay.

If being held up by insurance companies(no different than being robbed at gunpoint), makes people feel wealthier, so be it. But, you are not any better off than you were before. The only difference between then and now is that you didn't get sick and the insurance companies got rich. Sound good?
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That's great BUT they increase the premiums way up high in 2014 (I will pay about $60 more per month [used to be about $25 more/mo every year in the past], for some others, about $100-200 more per month, WTF?) so I would say they are still stealing from us.

2014 premiums are way out of control. I have the 2014 guide to FEHB and I can see it clearly with my own eyes. Congress must take action against insurance companies which take advantage of ACA to rip us off. Not cool at all.
 
CrazyPaul said:
That's great BUT they increase the premiums way up high in 2014 (I will pay about $60 more per month [used to be about $25 more/mo every year in the past], for some others, about $100-200 more per month, WTF?) so I would say they are still stealing from us.

2014 premiums are way out of control. I have the 2014 guide to FEHB and I can see it clearly with my own eyes. Congress must take action against insurance companies which take advantage of ACA to rip us off. Not cool at all.
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Obamacare is NOT the reason people pay more for insurance. There are two main factors:

One, people who don't have insurance because they can't afford it still need to be treated, that cost is pushed on to everyone who has insurance.

Two, Added tests required by the insurance companies to try and avoid a big payout. They reason, if you can find cancer before it spreads they pay less. So, you and everyone else is subjected to more requirements which have to be paid.

In fact: Obamacare is there to keep the insurance companies honest and to spread out the cost of insurance by requiring everyone to pay, just like other countries.

There is no partician based solution to this problem. Eventually, we are going to have to move to a tax based system like England.
 
VacationGuy made a good point.

For me, I prefer two choice solution - private (policies, regulation, features are decided by insurance companies) vs. public (like Medicare, regulated and feature controlled by government, income based premium).

I believe that private insurance should compete with public insurance.
 
Foxrac said:
VacationGuy made a good point.

For me, I prefer two choice solution - private (policies, regulation, features are decided by insurance companies) vs. public (like Medicare, regulated and feature controlled by government, income based premium).

I believe that private insurance should compete with public insurance.
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If I choose private insurance instead of any insurance under FEHB, it will cost me double or triple. Fu*k it!
 
From what I hear, employers and insurance will put premiums on smokers making them pay more per month, not sure how much but wouldn't be cheap I suppose.
 
Calvin said:
From what I hear, employers and insurance will put premiums on smokers making them pay more per month, not sure how much but wouldn't be cheap i suppose.
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I support their move because I intensely dislike the smokers.

Secondhand smoking gave me sore throat, cough and allergy flare-up.
 
Calvin said:
From what I hear, employers and insurance will put premiums on smokers making them pay more per month, not sure how much but wouldn't be cheap I suppose.
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Isn't that hard to prove? On the application, the smokers can easily state that they don't smoke.
 
Calvin said:
From what I hear, employers and insurance will put premiums on smokers making them pay more per month, not sure how much but wouldn't be cheap I suppose.
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It already happens at my company. The trend is just beginning. All companies will eventually require employees to give blood which is happening now through internal, "health screenings". You can still have your doctor give you a screening instead of the company at this point, however, you might have to pay for it. And, it will be a required if you want to use your companies health insurance(you can be denied).

Basically, this is the medical industry's version the credit card industry's procedure of taking from the poor and giving to the rich, in this case the unhealthy to the healthy. Think of it as a cash back bonus.

And, the health information that is gathered will surely be used by the company to find out which employees are cheaper to maintain in terms of heath benefits. No doubt.
 
The truly sad thing is that insurance companies actually provide zero actual health care and extract a large profit from all of us while inflicting an overall cost on the entire economy to shuffle all their fricking paper.
I would like to see a solid estimate of what that cost is.
I would like to see a solid estimate of what amount they actually make off of all of us with their evil racket that provides no health care. It is a big whopping scam. There has to be a better way than mandatory feeding those racketeers. I wonder who is the actual owners of those largest companies. Probably the Federal Reserve.
 
They don't need to prove it, they will know one way to another and they see people smoking and the smell. I was informed by one source in my job that the employers will charge $150 or so more per month for those smokers when it becomes into effect... don't know when.

So yes, it is happening to many employers and insurers too, they will know.

MangaReader said:
Isn't that hard to prove? On the application, the smokers can easily state that they don't smoke.
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ambrosia said:
If a small business cuts their employees hours they're doing it because a) they are assholes and just want to and taking advantage of people's ignorance to the law or b) they themselves are ignorant to the law.
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My father was a small business owner and if he had to provide health insurance for the three to six temp workers we had, he'd have no business. We had no steady work. When we had work, it was a few days at a time. Many times people would stop payment on a check to squeeze more out of him after saying to his face that they were "delighted" with the work. We worked for a lot of rich a***** that wanted us to do a job for free. I remember one person, who was deaf, had us clean her dump (literally) in Salem, MA. We had a crew of four or five. She didn't pay us after three days of hard work and there was nothing we could do about it. You know who paid the workers? My Dad. You know who paid him so he could pay our bills. No one. Now Obama wants small businesses like my Dad to pay him to look good with this nightmare he calls health care....Obama can jump in the lake. All I can think of are patients of good Cancer doctors that are helping them win the battle and Obama care is making them drop their health plan and find another doctor. Not impressed....

Laura
 
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