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Cochlear implant decision Kirsteen Allison
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Kirsteen Allison says “When I was first told I should consider a cochlear implant, I underwent a few weeks of shock as I did not think I was deaf enough. Also anger because my audiology department had led me to believe my hearing would not deteriorate further.

I wasn’t against the idea at all. I know some deaf people are, but this is because perhaps they come from an ‘all deaf’ family, or never had any hearing. Perhaps they only ever used sign language and never used lip reading or hearing aids.

There are many ‘anti CI’ deaf people and I encountered many of them in the run up to getting an implant. Similarly some who had CIs acted as though they felt I was not as ‘deserving’ as them, perhaps because I had ‘coped’ better than they had (mainstream school, less problems getting employment etc). (I don’t socialise with any of them any more)

I wasn’t really aware of what a cochlear implant could do. I knew it improved your hearing, restored ‘some’ hearing if not all, but my knowledge was limited. I did lots of research online in the run up to my assessments, and got answers this way.

I knew two people with cochlear implants prior to my own assessments. One of them had a blog with lots of answers and detailing the process, how she felt etc. This was very helpful. I was able to speak with them about the side effects, what the new sounds sounded like etc.

At first I found it hard to believe I really needed a cochlear implant, I did not think I was deaf enough. It was only the revelation that my hearing loss was progressive and without it, I would end up with no hearing whatsoever that made me decide to go for it. I feel like I didn’t have any other choice. Plus my ENT doctor was very blunt about my need for one and my level of deafness!

No one in my family was against the idea. My mum was more concerned about the operation aspect of it. My dad was fascinated by how it all worked (being a science teacher etc!).

My daughter’s only 4, but she was already aware that I needed my hearing aids to hear her, and her view of it was that I was getting a ‘new ear’ and that my hearing would be ‘fixed’.

I think my colleagues and friends expected 100% hearing. Certainly after the operation they were going ‘can you hear me now’? I had to say to them I could hear them before! albeit with hearing aids, and slightly less well.

I knew from online research that other implantees were able to use a telephone again or enjoy music and I hoped for this myself.

My mum was worried about it ‘not working’ but I didn’t really dwell on this as I knew only a small percentage failed. I was more concerned about the hearing from the implant being the same as the Hearing Aid, in other words, just the same.”

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can you provide the link for the webpage this trash piece was published on?
thanks

C-NICE said:
I wasn’t against the idea at all. I know some deaf people are, but this is because perhaps they come from an ‘all deaf’ family, or never had any hearing. Perhaps they only ever used sign language and never used lip reading or hearing aids.2
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how WRONG this girl is.
this is typical for every CI pet propaganda piece the "i know some deaf but'''''

C-NICE said:
There are many ‘anti CI’ deaf people and I encountered many of them in the run up to getting an implant.
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again the standard CI propaganda tag..

C-NICE said:
Similarly some who had CIs acted as though they felt I was not as ‘deserving’ as them, perhaps because I had ‘coped’ better than they had (mainstream school, less problems getting employment etc). (I don’t socialise with any of them any more)
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how can she tell us what those others were feeling "as i", is this women psychic? then she stated she has coped better? how does she knwo this? the fact she got drilled into her head leads many others to question how well she coped. did she associate with them?
does this girl sign?


C-NICE said:
I wasn’t really aware of what a cochlear implant could do. I knew it improved your hearing, restored ‘some’ hearing if not all, but my knowledge was limited. I did lots of research online in the run up to my assessments, and got answers this way.
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clearly its not only CI your knowledge is limited about.

C-NICE said:
I knew two people with cochlear implants prior to my own assessments. One of them had a blog with lots of answers and detailing the process, how she felt etc. This was very helpful. I was able to speak with them about the side effects, what the new sounds sounded like etc.
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again more of the usuaal, as if its just on a blue folder with standard number lines to use in the construction of propaganda pieces...and sales pitches


C-NICE said:
At first I found it hard to believe I really needed a cochlear implant, I did not think I was deaf enough
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again standard big pharma pitch used in almost any drug add, and pitches,

"at first, i found it hard to believe i needed viagra, was i still man enough for her?......"


C-NICE said:
. It was only the revelation that my hearing loss was progressive and without it,
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now you get langauge like "revelation" interesting in a pitch propaganda piece for a product that promises salvation,

C-NICE said:
I would end up with no hearing whatsoever that made me decide to go for it. I feel like I didn’t have any other choice. Plus my ENT doctor was very blunt about my need for one and my level of deafness!
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so now she has no choice....O I C..

so much for the old choice schtick i guess...
moving along..


C-NICE said:
No one in my family was against the idea. My mum was more concerned about the operation aspect of it. My dad was fascinated by how it all worked (being a science teacher etc!)./QUOTE]

its not even a well crafted propaganda piece hilarious...
this propb was some bad marketing 101 hack job by the read of it..

C-NICE said:
My daughter’s only 4, but she was already aware that I needed my hearing aids to hear her, and her view of it was that I was getting a ‘new ear’ and that my hearing would be ‘fixed’.
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i wonder whee ever she got those ideas....

C-NICE said:
I think my colleagues and friends expected 100% hearing. Certainly after the operation they were going ‘can you hear me now’? I had to say to them I could hear them before! albeit with hearing aids, and slightly less well


I knew from online research that other implantees were able to use a telephone again or enjoy music and I hoped for this myself.

My mum was worried about it ‘not working’ but I didn’t really dwell on this as I knew only a small percentage failed. I was more concerned about the hearing from the implant being the same as the Hearing Aid, in other words, just the same.”
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did a human even write this article its sentences are strong together as if its just a software pack that wipped it together with standard lines
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Hoichi, has anyone ever told you you're a giant bag of dicks? Just curious
 
ambrosia said:
Hoichi, has anyone ever told you you're a giant bag of dicks? Just curious
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hahaha..'-0~
funny well as a matter of fact yes...i lived with a a marine for years...

havnt seen it for a while though..
 
DeafNerdMommy said:
Hahaha see hoichi is not always a dick hahaha
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Oh I know, I may not have been around lately but I've around a long time. Me and hoichi have agreed many times, and sometimes everyone else disagrees with us. But in matters of CI he becomes a giant bag of dicks.
 
In most cases these are adults coming to ask other adults questions. Then they get ran off by aggressive narrative about deaf babies and the "eradication" of deaf culture. Which isn't happening bye and has fuck all to do with the question in the first place. What kind of useful discourse is that?

I am completely aware that it's not hoichi alone that participates in such behavior. I never even come on here anymore but every time I do it's going on in a new thread. Actually it's one of the reasons I don't visit anymore. You can only have the same conversation so many times before it becomes redundant and no longer intellectually stimulating.
 
ambrosia said:
In most cases these are adults coming to ask other adults questions. Then they get ran off by aggressive narrative about deaf babies and the "eradication" of deaf culture. Which isn't happening bye and has fuck all to do with the question in the first place. What kind of useful discourse is that?

I am completely aware that it's not hoichi alone that participates in such behavior. I never even come on here anymore but every time I do it's going on in a new thread. Actually it's one of the reasons I don't visit anymore. You can only have the same conversation so many times before it becomes redundant and no longer intellectually stimulating.
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right because the very same entities and corporations that implant you are the same ones who support by ovation, loot, and personnel, and policy and action those who actively engage in the DENYING of sign language to our children and babies and actively work and keep Deaf children away from other Deaf children.

would you accept that behaviour for other minorities?
would you?


this is Deaf here,
so yes your going to see what we see occurring and we are going to inform everyone about it, to try to stop whats happening..

you won't see it on a CI fetish board so...


its also NOT the same conversation, new people come here, new people post and get their questioned answered...this was a new post, from someone who enjoys chatting with me, because he only posts about this stuff...knowing we will chat..'-)

and further its a discussion forum, i'm not sure what you want..
this to be a CI fetish board?
its not..(the net has plenty of them, more then us Deaf have allot more)
so

you will get all sides on here..
c'mon ambrosia, we've never had any bad stuff between us on here , so lighten up will ya...'-)
 
Hoichi we've butted heads over this plenty. FYI I was pressured by no one to get a CI. I only ever even had one Audi even mention CIs to me. I pursued getting implanted. Me
 
ambrosia said:
Hoichi we've butted heads over this plenty. FYI I was pressured by no one to get a CI. I only ever even had one Audi even mention CIs to me. I pursued getting implanted. Me
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indeed nor have i ever stated YOU were pressured.

it really does suck, but there are more involved in this then just you or i, we don't live in a vacuum...

so..
pls..

and also we discussed this and butted heads sure, but i've always respected you on here girl, regardless of our different opinions. for what its worth, just keeping it real
 
Don't worry hoichi, I am teaching my kids who can teach their kids. I will keep it alive in oregon:)
 
Not to mention it's taught in freaking high school as a foreign language. Both my kids are taking ASL in school, it's not going anywhere.
 
ambrosia said:
Not to mention it's taught in freaking high school as a foreign language. Both my kids are taking ASL in school, it's not going anywhere.
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this ignores the actual facts of the DECLINE in ASL in schools for the Deaf.

just on hand....
the gally annual survey of Deaf/d/hh children and youth-noticeable trend sin oral only classroom environment.
just from 2000-2008 there was a 14% decrease in ASL usage in Deaf schools, while an increase of 8% of oral only classes,
those numbers have not gotten any better.

feel free to school me here, if you or anyone have contrary evidence. thank you.
look

having high school classes in a language states nothing at all regarding the actual usage of that language.

latin was offered in high schools up till the latter part of the 20th century, now i'm not the president of agbell i won't actually compare latin to ASL as she did at her annual address last May, (YES we know what you eat for breakfast!),but i will state that just because latin can be found in a high school for a credit, doesn't lead me to believe latin is actually an alive and healthy language..

yeah ASL is available to hearies for a credit

that's not anything at all to do with what we are stateing, in the behaviour of the combined system in keeping Deaf kids away from Deaf kids, and in DENYING them sign language acquisition

so
if you or anyone else here, has evidence to show my statements are false in what i'm telling you...
nows
the
time

don't presume to know whats occurring to my people and culture from the availability of high school language classes..

further at least first come into our culture and learn our language before you make statements regarding it..
truly and fairly.
always a pleasure to chat with you ambrosia
 
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ambrosia said:
Not to mention it's taught in freaking high school as a foreign language. Both my kids are taking ASL in school, it's not going anywhere.
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I took asl in high school and I noticed that a lot of my fellow classmates only took it because it is easy and just barely passed :( all my friends I took it with don't even member any of the words let alone pay attention. Now they want me to re teach them.
I am sure your kids are not that way but ask them if there is anyone in there for an easy A.
 
One girl is, both her parents are Deaf, she's already fluent

My daughter's been teaching me, I don't think it's going to be something she loses but she's a lot more interested in it than my son. My CI works extremely well for me so ASL isn't something that's in dire need for me to learn. I still want to learn more of it but it's not a real pressing need for me anymore.

When I was in HighSchool things were different now 3 years of a foreign language are required for graduation. Maybe they just find it more interesting than French Spanish or German whatever?
 
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