parents of toddler walk away from ci rehab

Bottesini said:
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Okay. This is what you put the link to. THis isn't even from an audiologist. It is an online test. And it shows you have no need whatsoever for a hearing aid.
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Reverse slop audiograms are incredibly rare and the dip there isn't normal. With that I would get an MRI. There is a better chance you have a tumor or medical cause than SNHL.
 
JennyB said:
Reverse slop audiograms are incredibly rare and the dip there isn't normal. With that I would get an MRI. There is a better chance you have a tumor or medical cause than SNHL.
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THat is an interesting possibility. I wonder why doctors where she lives have never considered that?
 
JennyB said:
Reverse slop audiograms are incredibly rare and the dip there isn't normal. With that I would get an MRI. There is a better chance you have a tumor or medical cause than SNHL.
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Or maybe that online audiogram isn't accurate? Ive taken online hearing tests and I get different results from different websites and speakers. He/she needs to see an audiologist and get a professional audiogram, scan it and post it here then we can comment.

But yes, reverse slopes account for perhaps 2% of audiograms. Over 90% of audiograms are sloping, such as mine. Ive seen many audiograms and indeed over 90% of them start higher up at 250Hz(or 125Hz) and slope down. Flat audiograms are the 2nd most common for those with hearing loss. Then there's cookiebite audiograms where you hear worst in the mids.
 
shel90 said:
Not always..we have students who dont have sensory issues and yet, they dont respond to sounds. It all depends on each person's brains and how they process the sounds. One can "hear" the sounds but not understand it.
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That's true..
 
Bott: A 50 db loss isn't nothing. I was born with a 40 db loss. I still had problems.

I think it's rude to tell someone they are really a hearing person just because you don't understand their problems.
 
dreama said:
Bott: A 50 db loss isn't nothing. I was born with a 40 db loss. I still had problems.

I think it's rude to tell someone they are really a hearing person just because you don't understand their problems.
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And I think you are a nuisance always saying I am wrong because you don't like me.

Big deal.
 
dreama said:
Bott: A 50 db loss isn't nothing. I was born with a 40 db loss. I still had problems.

I think it's rude to tell someone they are really a hearing person just because you don't understand their problems.
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I was actually being polite by not saying that her audiogram is what shows up when someone fakes hearing loss.

It is quite common.
 
dreama said:
Bott: A 50 db loss isn't nothing. I was born with a 40 db loss. I still had problems.

I think it's rude to tell someone they are really a hearing person just because you don't understand their problems.
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You need to see her audiogram first to understand why botts said so.

It's 20-25dB loss across the board. Just that it dips down to 50dB at 500Hz, and 40dB at 250Hz in one ear. Rest is at about 20dB. In one ear, it actually at about 10dB at 4000Hz.

The reverse slope is unusual though. I have never seen one before... But again that's because I don't research about hearing loss-- I just get them done at audiologists because the government and education system want them done every year or so.

Either way, it's an online test. Not reliable and can be faked. You would need one by a certified audiologist.
 
shel90 said:
Like with HAs work for some and dont work for others. I see it the same with CIs. There is no specific answer for that. That's why I am a firm believer in the philosophy of Deaf Ed I have now but I wont go into it.
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I can believe there is no specific answer to the question. I know I used to have "engage" my brain to be in listening mode to listen to speech when I had my HA. I wouldn't always "get it" when somebody spoke to me at first especially out of the blue. I would have say "I'm sorry but I wasn't paying attention".

After I got my CI, I was able to catch something somebody said right off the bat a lot more often. Nowadays, I'm pretty much automatic about it but I still have my moments especially if I'm deep in thought. This aspect is one of the things I really appreciate about my CI. I don't feel like I'm having to catch up with everybody else (what did I miss type of thing?).

On the other hand, if it were just noises not speech whether with HA or CI, I never had trouble realizing I heard a noise. I would always react appropriately to it (i.e., it was a normal non threatening sound, it was a sound that I needed to investigate, or it sounded like I needed to be on guard and etc).

I guess to answer my own question, some of it can be developmental but there are definite unknowns involved as well.

Thanks...
 
sr171soars said:
I can believe there is no specific answer to the question. I know I used to have "engage" my brain to be in listening mode to listen to speech when I had my HA. I wouldn't always "get it" when somebody spoke to me at first especially out of the blue. I would have say "I'm sorry but I wasn't paying attention".

After I got my CI, I was able to catch something somebody said right off the bat a lot more often. Nowadays, I'm pretty much automatic about it but I still have my moments especially if I'm deep in thought. This aspect is one of the things I really appreciate about my CI. I don't feel like I'm having to catch up with everybody else (what did I miss type of thing?).

On the other hand, if it were just noises not speech whether with HA or CI, I never had trouble realizing I heard a noise. I would always react appropriately to it (i.e., it was a normal non threatening sound, it was a sound that I needed to investigate, or it sounded like I needed to be on guard and etc).

I guess to answer my own question, some of it can be developmental but there are definite unknowns involved as well.

Thanks...
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If one hasn't heard the sound prior to CI, or if it was heard differently prior to CI, then it is a matter of learning to interpret that particular sound into something meaningful. Like, if you have never heard the sound "chair" before, and all of a sudden you do hear it, it has no meaning until you learn to connect it to the thing it represents. Some of it can be developmental, as in learning, but it can also be an issue of auditory memory and processing.
 
Bottesini said:
And I think you are a nuisance always saying I am wrong because you don't like me.

Big deal.
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I said what I did because you should not make judgements when you don't even know a person.

I would have said exactly the same whoever had said something so rude.
 
souggy said:
You need to see her audiogram first to understand why botts said so.

It's 20-25dB loss across the board. Just that it dips down to 50dB at 500Hz, and 40dB at 250Hz in one ear. Rest is at about 20dB. In one ear, it actually at about 10dB at 4000Hz.

The reverse slope is unusual though. I have never seen one before... But again that's because I don't research about hearing loss-- I just get them done at audiologists because the government and education system want them done every year or so.

Either way, it's an online test. Not reliable and can be faked. You would need one by a certified audiologist.
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If someone wanted to go to the trouble of faking an audiogram, wouldn't it be easier just to copy someone else's?
 
dreama said:
If someone wanted to go to the trouble of faking an audiogram, wouldn't it be easier just to copy someone else's?
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How we know? the audiogram says "lloydhearingaid.com." It's online, not reliable. Subjective to the quality of the sound card, the headset and everything else.

I didn't say she faked it. Just that it can be faked-- so, she really need to see a professional audiologist.
 
AlleyCat said:
One thing I don't understand is that this OP doesn't write like she is hearing. Much of this thread doesn't seem to make sense.
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She claim to have auditory processing disorder in one of her posts. Hearing aids and CIs won't help her much in this regard.
 
AlleyCat said:
One thing I don't understand is that this OP doesn't write like she is hearing. Much of this thread doesn't seem to make sense.
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What does the ability to hear or not have to do with writing? It has to do with literacy and education. Anyone is capable of reading/writing.
 
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