Frisky Feline
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let me correct myself..
How do you think people learned ASL before the advent of the Internet?
Even more to the point, how do students learn ASL without asking for homework help from AllDeaf members? Is it possible?
Suppose you meet a Deaf person in public and have to communicate on the spot without getting web help--can you do it?
Training one's brain to think conceptually, to process in ASL is the key. Training one's brain happens thru repetition and trial-and-error. (Repetition seems to be verboten in today's education.)
That isn't to say that asking for help is completely out of the question. It means asking for help only for specific stumbling blocks, and only after making a serious attempt at self-resolution first.
Of course, it depends on whether or not you're seeking help just to get a good grade, or you really want to learn how to communicate in ASL.
One last question--I'm curious--when you (the student) need "help" writing an English paper or taking a math exam, do you ask strangers on the Internet to do your work for you?
Can I ask.... do students think it's okay to butt into conversations we're having with friends to show off that they know ASL, or is this just every A$$ muffin ASL student I run into?
I must have a had a good series of ASL teachers. We were never asked to translate songs nor go out and survey people in the Deaf community. Instead we had an "Implications of Deafness" class in which members of the HOH and Deaf community came in and spoke about their life experiences.
Additionally, we were given two golden rules in the first ASL class. 1)If you see people signing, don't stare; that's eavesdropping. 2)Don't run up to every Deaf person just to say you can sign. If you haven't got a real reason to strike up a conversation, don't. (and remember rule #1)
It wasn't until ASL 3 that the class was invited to go the local Deaf Club (with the teacher). Also in that class, it was made clear that although we could carry on a conversation in ASL we were NOT at interpreter level. We were also warned that if the local BOCES tried to hire us as interpreters for the mainstreaming programs to decline, because the fastest way to get a bad name in the Deaf community was to be an incompetent interpreter.
Can I ask.... do students think it's okay to butt into conversations we're having with friends to show off that they know ASL, or is this just every A$$ muffin ASL student I run into? Seriously, in grocery stores, out having lunch, on campus... doesn't matter! They just charge right the hell in to the conversation to say the most random crap to show boat that they know a little ASL... It can't be just me that this happens to... ( I know I have talked to friends it happens to as well ) but it's PROFOUNDLY annoying... I get very rude with them and they act surprised about it... That's my question... also, me telling you to not do that... you should not do that if you do... don't do it... just... don't do it....
Hmmm... I must be the only one who doesn't find this annoying. Unless they were being nice like "Sorry, I didn't mean to bother you but I noticed you were signing and I know a little bit of ASL, but still learning" and blahblahblah. I just find it a great way to meet new friends. Some of them are scared to go up to a deaf person and spark a conversation with them, but at least they're trying to learn our language to be able to communicate with us fluently and efficiently, so I appreciate that. Maybe I'm super nice.
Hmmm... I must be the only one who doesn't find this annoying. Unless they were being nice like "Sorry, I didn't mean to bother you but I noticed you were signing and I know a little bit of ASL, but still learning" and blahblahblah. I just find it a great way to meet new friends. Some of them are scared to go up to a deaf person and spark a conversation with them, but at least they're trying to learn our language to be able to communicate with us fluently and efficiently, so I appreciate that. Maybe I'm super nice.
I'm curious--ASL students are always being encouraged to interact with Deaf people--so, how are they supposed to meet Deaf people?
Can I ask.... do students think it's okay to butt into conversations we're having with friends to show off that they know ASL, or is this just every A$$ muffin ASL student I run into?
That's so nice... I wish more teachers like that were around here... Can we clone people yet!? I'd like a machine!!! Need that mentality in ASL classes please!!! Your teacher sounded fantastic, good attitude and spot on! *applauds*
Hmmm... I must be the only one who doesn't find this annoying. Unless they were being nice like "Sorry, I didn't mean to bother you but I noticed you were signing and I know a little bit of ASL, but still learning" and blahblahblah. I just find it a great way to meet new friends. Some of them are scared to go up to a deaf person and spark a conversation with them, but at least they're trying to learn our language to be able to communicate with us fluently and efficiently, so I appreciate that. Maybe I'm super nice.
Might be a show of inexperience, too. My dad (no ASL or Deaf culture knowledge) once tried to force me into eavesdropping on two deaf guys at the mall, and my mom (late-deaf, same knowledge as my dad) once encouraged me to go up to two deaf ladies in a Walmart. I have no problem talking with deaf people, but I'm not just randomly gonna walk up to 'em while they're in the midst of shopping and talking to each other to go "hey, you don't know me, but I can sign!"
My college ASL classes were like that, taken at the same time as Deaf History classes and such.
In my HS class, we signed a song when some of us volunteered for a multicultural festival (given our timeslot, it was as good as we could do to bring ASL to the hearing people there...), but it wasn't really a thing in our class other than the national anthem once. All my teachers were deaf in all the ASL classes.
I myself like seeing on occasion if I can get songs to look good in ASL, but I rarely gloss them, and I even more rarely actually sign them, especially in video form. Strangely, if I get the urge... it's usually around this time of year.
Those of us from the hearing world will say "HI" to a stranger just in passing not starting a real conversation.
In South Carolina, it's rude not to greet strangers. We don't greet everyone passing by on a busy crowded street but otherwise, we acknowledge individuals that we pass.I think that varies quite a bit depending on location/culture. I never say 'hello' to random strangers, nor does anyone else where I live. We just go about our business. In fact, when Walmart came to our area they were the only store that had a designated "greeter". Now, they no longer have them here; they just weren't seen as useful because it's not something we do.