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Cheri said:
How is it hypocrisy? and how is death penalty cruel? lethal injection is most painless death. And how is that unusual punishment? Do you feel sorrier for criminals than you do for victims? If criminals don't deserved death, either does the victims.
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Accord the links at Death Penatly threads, lethal injection is not painless death.
 
dreama said:
Yes, I'm sure women are human. Which is why they shouldn't have to live with the guilt of having murdered their baby. Particularly if their family pushed them into it. Lots of Pro life people are female.

What I want to know is where you stand about living human babies. One's who had an abortion because they were differant or even because they are female. Why should anyone be alowed to leave them in a room to die painfully for 45 minutes. Why support that.

So caring about the rights of others is 'whining' now is it. Just wait and see how you feel when you are elderly and your family are trying to presurize you into killing yourself so they can inherit your money. You will be glad about someone 'whining' to preserve your right of life when that happens I assure you.
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There´re no comparison between human and fetus because human live out of mother´s womb and fetus live in mother´s womb.

Murdered human babies is the mainly worst than under 12 weeks old fetus removal.

Sorry again, for your loss Byrdie714. :hug:
 
Liebling:-))) said:
Accord the links at Death Penatly threads, lethal injection is not painless death.
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not unless they use anaesthesia, lethal infection would be painless. Electric chair is more brutal than the lethal injection.
 
Cheri said:
How is it hypocrisy? and how is death penalty cruel? lethal injection is most painless death. And how is that unusual punishment? Do you feel sorrier for criminals than you do for victims? If criminals don't deserved death, either does the victims.
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It's cruel because killing one person will not bring the other person back. When you kill someone, whether it be lethal injection or the electric chair, you are sparing them the consequences of their crime. Some criminals even encourage prosecutors to give them the death penalty because it's preferable to spending the rest of their lives behind bars. Would you like to spend 30-40 years of your life, cooped up in a box with no contact with the outside world? I consider that a far worse punishment.

Also, the death penalty can take years to produce results because there will be plenty of pleas. Also, thanks to DNA testing, innocent people on death row have been spared the death penalty. There are still people who are put to death under questionable circumstances/evidence.

Also, here's an interesting case of a mentally-retarded man put to death in Texas:

CNN.com - Texas executes man said to be mentally retarded - August 9, 2000

The American Bar Association urged Texas Gov. George W. Bush to block Cruz's execution because he has been diagnosed as being mentally retarded with an IQ of 63. Officials from France, Sweden and the European Union also wrote letters supporting Cruz.
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How is that not cruel and unusual punishment?

One last thing as well. If you consider yourself a Christian, don't you find it even mildly hypocritical to call for the death of someone? Isn't that God's duty and not yours? Aren't people supposed to be able to forgive each other?
 
Cheri said:
A Pro-Life does not necessarily means that all death is wrong, Some death is right like death penalty, if a person committed capital crimes, that person deserved death.

Pro lifers only does not supports the taking of innocent human life.. Don't get confused what Pro life stands for.

By the way I'm sorry about your daughter, Her mother did was wrong and she deserves the death penalty.
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No, it make no difference because a person who commit capital crimes is also human, too.

If you are against all (abortion, war, death penalty, suicide assistance, etc) which mean is you are truly pro-life.

I would call myself as a hypocrisy if I claim that I´m pro-life because I support half, not all. No way, that´s why I consider myself as a pro-choice, not pro-life.
 
BradB08 said:
It's cruel because killing one person will not bring the other person back. When you kill someone, whether it be lethal injection or the electric chair, you are sparing them the consequences of their crime. Some criminals even encourage prosecutors to give them the death penalty because it's preferable to spending the rest of their lives behind bars. Would you like to spend 30-40 years of your life, cooped up in a box with no contact with the outside world? I consider that a far worse punishment.
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You call that worst punishment by sitting in prison for life or for 30-40 years getting free meals 3 times a day, free cable, they don't have to work, they don't have to do their laundry, they get all the luxury.

One last thing as well. If you consider yourself a Christian, don't you find it even mildly hypocritical to call for the death of someone? Isn't that God's duty and not yours? Aren't people supposed to be able to forgive each other?
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How is that hypocritical when I don't do the killing, my hands are clean. ;) We aren't allow to discuss religious anywhere on AD, so I cannot say more.
 
jillio said:
One can support a candidate without agreeing with them on every single point. I have yet, in all my years of voting, to find a candidate with which I agreed 100%. But if I agree with 99% of their position, and disagree with 1%, it is still more than enough agreement on which to base my vote.
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Yes, that´s right.

I know Pro-lifer McCain (who claims himself that he is a pro-lifer :roll:) and Pro-choice Obama both support death penatly.

I disagree few of Obama´s plan but he still have my support.
 
I find it disturbing that there are people like Cheri who think that the death penalty is "right".

In fact, let's get the facts straight:

Abortion (or killing fetuses to pro-lifers) : Wrong
Sending off young adults to fight in senseless wars: Right
The death penalty: Right

Now, no one here has come out in support of this but to illustrate how a pro-lifer could take their beliefs to the extreme:

Bombing Abortion Clinics and killing Abortion doctors: Right
Supporting contraceptives and sex education: Wrong
Abstinence-only education: Right
Forcing rape victims to go along with pregnancy in spite of the trauma that's been inflicted upon them: Right

Also, "Pro-Life" doesn't make sense. Anti-Abortion is more like it. Pro-Life implies that the person supports life and when they support war and the death penalty, that kind of cancels out the pro-life label.
 
Cheri said:
You call that worst punishment by sitting in prison for life or for 30-40 years getting free meals 3 times a day, free cable, they don't have to work, they don't have to do their laundry, they get all the luxury.
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I have a brother who has been in prison for 3 years. He hates it there. Do you think I complain about the fact that he can sit on his ass, watch TV and eat 3 meals a day?

Before he went to prison, he was struggling to provide for a deadbeat mother of an ex-girlfriend. He barely even ate. He couldn't stay out of trouble because his ex-girlfriend wanted to deal drugs and deal with nasty stuff.

Jail was like a godsend to him. He has gotten the opportunity to discover his spirituality, get healthy (no more smoking, eating right, access to health and dental care that he couldn't afford outside of jail) and educate himself.

Before you complain about criminals "getting all the luxuries", consider the fact that before they went to jail, they probably had nothing. Some people have the ability to use their prison experience to better their lives. I know my brother wants to better his life and he's grateful for the time he's spent in prison. He hates it there but he knows that he's not going back once he gets out.

The only problem is that he CAN'T get out because he can't find a place to live. That's another story but you should really think about the fact that some AD'ers may have relatives or friends in jail and they make take offense to your comments.

And also consider the fact of solitary confinement. If an inmate is sentenced to life in prison and they are of high risk to other inmates, they will be confined to a tiny cell for 23 hours a day with NO luxuries. This also happens even if they are not in prison for life.


How is that hypocritical when I don't do the killing, my hands are clean. ;) We aren't allow to discuss religious anywhere on AD, so I cannot say more.
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Your hands are not clean if you openly advocate for the death penalty. That's all I have to say. You have a pretty twisted set of beliefs that you should examine sometime. I can't help you there and I'm not interested in getting banned again.
 
BradB08 said:
I find it disturbing that there are people like Cheri who think that the death penalty is "right".

In fact, let's get the facts straight:

Abortion (or killing fetuses to pro-lifers) : Wrong
Sending off young adults to fight in senseless wars: Wrong
The death penalty: Right

Now, no one here has come out in support of this but to illustrate how a pro-lifer could take their beliefs to the extreme:

Bombing Abortion Clinics and killing Abortion doctors: Right
Supporting contraceptives and sex education: Wrong
Abstinence-only education: Right
Forcing rape victims to go along with pregnancy in spite of the trauma that's been inflicted upon them: Right

Also, "Pro-Life" doesn't make sense. Anti-Abortion is more like it. Pro-Life implies that the person supports life and when they support war and the death penalty, that kind of cancels out the pro-life label.
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I never said I support the war, or support bombing abortion clinic, You don't know me, just because I'm a pro-lifer that doesn't mean I stand in front of abortion clinic and block pregnant mothers from entering the door of an abortion clinic like some other pro-lifers do. And I do support sex education. :)
 
I just explained that a person who takes their pro-life beliefs to the EXTREME would advocate for bombing of abortion clinics.

Re-read what I wrote. I did not say that you do that.

It's all good otherwise.
 
BradB08 said:
You have a pretty twisted set of beliefs that you should examine sometime.
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That's a very insulting respond to say to someone, if that's how you debate with people, then I'm not even interesting in debating with you. :)
 
Cheri said:
That's very insulting respond to say to someone, if that's how you debate with people, then I'm not even interesting in debating with you. :)
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Hey, you PM'ed me because supposedly I "gave up" and didn't respond to your question.

And I have strong opinions that are hard to reign in sometimes. I apologize for offending you there.
 
BradB08 said:
Hey, you PM'ed me because supposedly I "gave up" and didn't respond to your question.

And I have strong opinions that are hard to reign in sometimes. I apologize for offending you there.
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I don't mind you sharing your strong opinions with me, but leave the personal attack out ok? Ty. ;)
 
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