Obama Directs United States To Accept 10,000 Syrians In 2016

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hoichi said:
No on should lie to themselves.
When you take in thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of people, from anywhere,
Vetted or not
Bad dudes will.be getting in.
Why anyone wants to deny this, is a questiion worrth exploring
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But to assume that they're are bad without judging them on who they are as indivduals is wrong.... there ARE bad people here in the US....there are bad people everywhere!
 
deafdyke said:
Um you do know that they're not coming for jobs and stuff? They are coming to escape the horror of BOMBS and refugee camps. If you stay you get KILLED!
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But they will need jobs when they arrive at their destinations, will they not?

I don't know about all the refugees but I did see some being interviewed on TV and they said they were seeking better jobs in Germany.
 
deafdyke said:
But to assume that they're are bad without judging them on who they are as indivduals is wrong.... there ARE bad people here in the US....there are bad people everywhere!
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That doesn't mean we need to import more bad people.
 
Reba said:
But they will need jobs when they arrive at their destinations, will they not?

I don't know about all the refugees but I did see some being interviewed on TV and they said they were seeking better jobs in Germany.
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Most want a free handout, as the government gives them a LOT of money when they get here, and they see the slums and learn to work the system.

I know some arent bad like that but most rely on welfare, just the ones who HONESTY want to raise their family here will seek jobs... but a few things hinder some. 1 learning the language and 2 getting the skills or education needed.

I have a friend from Bosnia, she works hard learning english and going to school. Raises her daughter alone and bought a house. She works long hours as a housekeeper in a hotel because thats all she can get with her experience and everything... many others have opened successful restraunts here, but there is a large community of slackers and now adding to it recently.
 
sonocativo said:
Most want a free handout, as the government gives them a LOT of money when they get here, and they see the slums and learn to work the system.

I know some arent bad like that but most rely on welfare, just the ones who HONESTY want to raise their family here will seek jobs... but a few things hinder some. 1 learning the language and 2 getting the skills or education needed.

I have a friend from Bosnia, she works hard learning english and going to school. Raises her daughter alone and bought a house. She works long hours as a housekeeper in a hotel because thats all she can get with her experience and everything... many others have opened successful restraunts here, but there is a large community of slackers and now adding to it recently.
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Immigrants are not qualify for welfare, except for emergencies only - temporarily.
 
Foxrac said:
Immigrants are not qualify for welfare, except for emergencies only - temporarily.
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They do qualify if they are here legally. Which all these refugees will be. Food stamps, Medicaid, education etc.
 
I think its very foolish and short sighted to just open doors and let waves of peoplw in from a region with mutliple terrorist groups with goals and agendas contrary to freedom.

How exactly will a vetting proccess work Given how fast the gov wishes to accept them in?

Another big plm is the very real possiblility of these people radicalizing for what ever their reasons when they are here. The U.K.has suffered that. Its policies toward pakistani immegration during new labour and blair was essentially wide open doors.
And bombed busses and dead brits in london is what occured. As well as enclaves of muslem areas essentially of limits to non adherents...

We can ignore.those grim facts...
But to our peril.

Rich muslem nations such as saudi arabia wont take any. But it is funding and building 200 mosques in germany for them. What gives?

People need to see this for what it is.

A long term goal of changing the west from the inside.

By various means. Waves upon waves upon waves upon waves upon waves of males of fighting age. Adults are the majority of the refugees. Not women or children.

Things are not adding up.

This frankly is being orhcestrated by powers unknown.
The leadership in the west are clowns, and stoogies..with ledership as we currently have, the future is indeed looking grim.
 
Sounds terribly ominous, Hoichi......
 
deafdyke said:
But to assume that they're are bad without judging them on who they are as indivduals is wrong.... there ARE bad people here in the US....there are bad people everywhere!
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We need to make assumptions. We have enough bad dudes here why just accept more?

Look at the numbers?

Im not just focused on the u.s. i think we need to closely watch europe. (Im an italian citezen, as well as a canadian, i hold both passports, and an entitlement to the right of abode in the united kingdom).the footage on RAI (italian station). Is telling...footage no american network is showing...
Long term whats accuring is essentily cultural suicide for europe here.

Look at germany. How big is germany? The current rulers of germany before they backpeddled claimed germany can take in 800.000 refugges, ongoing...

Im not a math wiz by any stretch...
But with numbers like that in such a small place
You are inviting trouble.

These people are not western. They dont live as us.

What exactly is going on here?

Why is this the wests plm?

To bring this back to america. I spent years in america. Openning the doors to this invasion and lets call this what it is,an invasion is inviting long term serious trouble
Why?

Frankly america has enough plms to deal with. Canads too. Why not work on getting a handle on our plms before rushing as fools to embrace other far serious ones?

I actually think what is occuring. The idea to accept waves and waves and waves and waves and waves upon thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of these people is

NUTS!

They chop eachothers heads off for entertainment, they have never experienced or lived in a free country.
This is

NUTS.

It really is..
 
well open the eyes a little wider...


Who is complaining about the Shari laws, not following allah and cant beat women? all those damn refugees thats who.... send them back

They come here with VIOLENCE INSTILLED in them
 
sonocativo said:
well open the eyes a little wider...


Who is complaining about the Shari laws, not following allah and cant beat women? all those damn refugees thats who.... send them back

They come here with VIOLENCE INSTILLED in them
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What about biblical law?
 
And they are rioting, and charging the border in hungary.hungary the footage im watching now, tear gas, is being used. razor wire isnt holding.these people.

If a nation has to defend its borders by use of non lethel force which is having a limited affact. What do you think these same people charging and rioting on the border will do when the gates are made wide open?

The footage..the vast vast vast majority are males, of fighting age. They dont even appear to be malnourished. They are attacking the police and border guards

And some here want them to be let in with wide borders?
(Shakes head)
For heavens sake.
WHY?
 
This has made some stitrs in italia..
But...we should just leavethe gates open for them...

Nigerian Muslims threw 12 Christians overboard when he refused to stop
Surviving refugees on dinghy looked distressed when they arrived in Italy
Italian ships have rescued 10,000 refugees fleeing war in Africa this week
Among them was boat of Libyans who were suffering from severe burns
By Jay Akbar For Mailonline
Published: 04:20 EST, 18 April 2015 | Updated: 10:03 EST, 18 April 2015
UK DAILY MAIL

When a rubber dinghy carrying around 100 African refugees across the Mediterranean began to sink, a Nigerian Christian prayed for his life in an innocent act that would end in the deaths of 12 fellow migrants.
One of the Muslims on board the rickety craft ordered him to stop, saying: 'Here, we only pray to Allah.'

When he refused, a violent fight ensued and 12 Christians drowned when they were thrown overboard by the Muslim refugees.

The tragic news comes amid reports that an unprecedented 10,000 refugees fleeing war and persecution in Africa have been rescued by Italian ships in the past week.

But over 900 making the perilous journey have either died or gone missing since the start of the year and 400 migrants died in two shipwrecks last week.

Those who witnessed the African Christians being murdered on the crammed dinghy told investigators how Nigerian Muslims became angry at Christian who started praying.

'They told him that they would throw him overboard if he didn't stop praying to God,' he said, according to La Republica.

The witness added: 'They started shouting, two pushed the lad and he fell in the sea and drowned.'

The Muslims 'went mad' and began screaming "Allah is great" before they attacked migrants who tried to defend the boy, according to The Times.

When 12 migrants were mercilessly thrown overboard, the other Christians formed a human chain and protected themselves against the attackers by clinging to the dinghy.

A rescue ship arrived one hour later, according to a Ghanaian witness called Yeboah.

Italian police arrested 15 people suspected of the killing including Ousmane Camar from the Ivory Coast.

The 21-year-old was identified by the wound on his big toe which he received when a migrant he threw overboard bit him.

The boat's passengers reportedly looked distressed when it finally arrived in the port of Palermo in southern-Italy on Wednesday.

A six-month old baby with severe burns on her face was among traumatised survivors of another sea rescue near Italy's Lampedusa Island on Friday.

The infant was one of 70 refugees on board the half-inflated rubber dinghy that was rescued by the Italian coastguard after two days adrift on the Mediterranean Sea.

Many of the migrants on board suffered horrific burns from a gas explosion before departing from Libya, but were forced on the smugglers' boat without treatment.

The UN Refugee Agency said the explosion occurred at a holding centre run by smugglers who demand thousands of pounds for a place on the dangerous boats.

Several people died in the tragic accident and many more were injured, according to the UN High Commissioner for Refugees' spokesperson.
Barbara Molinario said: 'The traffickers would not allow them to leave and reach the hospital so they did not get treatment for a few days. And then they were put on a boat.'

Another UN spokesperson Carlotta Sami said: 'They were held in Libya for two to three days without being given medical care then forced onto a dinghy which began to sink immediately

She claimed to 'have never before seen cruelty like this' as the migrants' burns were exposed to blistering heat and salt water for two days at sea.

The UN said that 23,500 migrants had sailed to Italy this year in addition to 12,000 who had sailed to Greece.
 
sonocativo said:
well open the eyes a little wider...


Who is complaining about the Shari laws, not following allah and cant beat women? all those damn refugees thats who.... send them back

They come here with VIOLENCE INSTILLED in them
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Just b/c someone is a Muslim, it doesn't mean that they are automaticly the crazy Wahabbi Muslims. The Wahabbi ones are the ones who are literally insane..... they're the Muslim version of Christian Identity. And if I recall correctly, we would NOT let the Wahabbis in due to the security risks....the refugees we'd take in would be the type that Isis would kill without even blinking.
 
soutthpaw said:
The Muslim world needs to step up and take care of their own.
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they do and they're overwhelmed. they have tons of refugee camps still lasting for over a decade. they're one of the largest hosts for refugee camps.

USA is taking in 0.000000000000000000001% of the refugees.
 
sonocativo said:
Most want a free handout, as the government gives them a LOT of money when they get here, and they see the slums and learn to work the system.

I know some arent bad like that but most rely on welfare, just the ones who HONESTY want to raise their family here will seek jobs... but a few things hinder some. 1 learning the language and 2 getting the skills or education needed.

I have a friend from Bosnia, she works hard learning english and going to school. Raises her daughter alone and bought a house. She works long hours as a housekeeper in a hotel because thats all she can get with her experience and everything... many others have opened successful restraunts here, but there is a large community of slackers and now adding to it recently.
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a contradiction to your first paragraph...

free handout... government giving them a lot of money... how much? how does it work? do you think they're living like middle-class on our handouts?
 
sonocativo said:
Jiro, Im looking for the article, but long story short.
Its terrorists acting as refuges coming to america. NOW the fun begins....
Its like a computer virus, destroying from within.... think about it. America better wake up soon.
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please do look for an article.

and I'm betting that you're not gonna find one. a credible one that is.
 
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