NY sanitation crushes car

sequoias said:
No, use the same equipment but convert it to something useful.
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superheat = lotsa of fuel = lotsa of $$$$$$ wasted
 
sequoias said:
There still has to be some way, tho.
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there's none. this happened because it's an insidious plot by sanitation department to get Bloomberg to pay more. old news. i hear same old shit every year.
 
Jiro said:
there's none. this happened because it's an insidious plot by sanitation department to get Bloomberg to pay more. old news. i hear same old shit every year.
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One way to rip off company to company. :lol:
 
sequoias said:
One way to rip off company to company. :lol:
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Bloomberg slashed budget and laid off 400 sanitation workers. and what did we get?

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Sanitation Department's slow snow cleanup was a budget protest
These garbage men really stink.

Selfish Sanitation Department bosses from the snow-slammed outer boroughs ordered their drivers to snarl the blizzard cleanup to protest budget cuts -- a disastrous move that turned streets into a minefield for emergency-services vehicles, The Post has learned.

Miles of roads stretching from as north as Whitestone, Queens, to the south shore of Staten Island still remained treacherously unplowed last night because of the shameless job action, several sources and a city lawmaker said, which was over a raft of demotions, attrition and budget cuts.

"They sent a message to the rest of the city that these particular labor issues are more important," said City Councilman Dan Halloran (R-Queens), who was visited yesterday by a group of guilt-ridden sanitation workers who confessed the shameless plot.

Halloran said he met with three plow workers from the Sanitation Department -- and two Department of Transportation supervisors who were on loan -- at his office after he was flooded with irate calls from constituents.

The snitches "didn't want to be identified because they were afraid of retaliation," Halloran said. "They were told [by supervisors] to take off routes [and] not do the plowing of some of the major arteries in a timely manner. They were told to make the mayor pay for the layoffs, the reductions in rank for the supervisors, shrinking the rolls of the rank-and-file."

New York's Strongest used a variety of tactics to drag out the plowing process -- and pad overtime checks -- which included keeping plows slightly higher than the roadways and skipping over streets along their routes, the sources said.

The snow-removal snitches said they were told to keep their plows off most streets and to wait for orders before attacking the accumulating piles of snow.

They said crews normally would have been more aggressive in com bating a fierce, fast-moving bliz zard like the one that barreled in on Sunday and blew out the next morning.

The workers said the work slowdown was the result of growing hostility between the mayor and the workers responsible for clearing the snow.

In the last two years, the agency's workforce has been slashed by 400 trash haulers and supervisors -- down from 6,300 -- because of the city's budget crisis. And, effective tomorrow, 100 department supervisors are to be demoted and their salaries slashed as an added cost-saving move.

Sources said budget cuts were also at the heart of poor planning for the blizzard last weekend. The city broke from its usual routine and did not call in a full complement on Saturday for snow preparations in order to save on added overtime that would have had to be paid for them to work on Christmas Day.

The result was an absolute collapse of New York's once-vaunted systems of clearing the streets and keeping mass transit moving under the weight of 20 inches of snow.

The Sanitation Department last night denied there was a concerted effort to slow snow removal.

"There are no organized or wildcat actions being taken by the sanitation workers or the supervisors," said spokesman Matthew Lipani.

Joseph Mannion, president of the union that represents agency supervisors, said talk of a slowdown "is hogwash." But he admitted there is "resentment out there" toward Mayor Bloomberg and his administration because of budget cuts.

His counterpart at the rank-and-file's union, Harry Nespoli, has also denied there is a job action, though he admitted his guys are working lucrative 14-hour shifts.

Bloomberg spokesman Stu Loeser said only: "We would hope this is not the case."

But multiple Sanitation Department sources told The Post yesterday that angry plow drivers have only been clearing streets assigned to them even if that means they have to drive through snowed-in roads with their plows raised.

And they are keeping their plow blades unusually high, making it necessary for them to have to run extra passes, adding time and extra pay.

One mechanic said some drivers are purposely smashing plows and salt spreaders to further stall the cleanup effort.

"That is a disgrace. I had to walk three miles because the buses can't move," said salesman Yuri Vesslin, 38, of Sheepshead Bay, Brooklyn.

Meanwhile, Bloomberg -- quickly becoming the public face of failure this week -- spent a second consecutive day yesterday defending himself to critics of his administration's handling of the storm.

He took reporters to The Bronx to explain that the city is coming back to life and to tout his administration's efforts.

"Can't work much harder," Bloomberg said.

But Hizzoner admitted, "We didn't do as good a job as we want to do or as the city has a right to expect."

Sanitation Commissioner John Doherty promised that every street will have been plowed by 7 this morning, but then he offered this hedge: "Will somebody find a street that I missed? Maybe."

Bloomberg and Doherty also offered a series of excuses for the failed response to the blizzard. They blamed residents for shoveling snow into streets that had already been plowed and for tying up 911 with non-emergency calls.

"This was a failure in the operations and ultimately, as the mayor tells us very often, the buck stops with him," said Councilman Vincent Ignizio (R-SI).
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Do you have any idea where snow comes from? Generally it comes from lake, river, ocean wherever there is body of water. They evaporates into air and when it hits right temperature it turn into snow. Dumping snow in lake, river, etc only returns it back. We the Rochesters do dump snow in river for years.

Plus whenever snow melts, it goes back to river though storm drainage so it makes no difference,

AliciaM said:
you aren't spose to dump snow in any body of water..you risk altering the water too much what with everything that gets mixed in with the snow esp acidity etc
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I disagree, in Colorado and Alaska, snow are much "drier" than in back East. Wet snow is much harder to remove than dry snow. Plus, you may not realize alot of streets in NYC are much narrower than in Alaska and Colorado which makes snow removal extremely difficult. You may look it as easy, but in reality it is not.

Dry snow, pretty much soft flaky, verses wet snow which has more density in it and not flaky, in other words compacted and harder.

posts from hell said:
They should hire some Alaskans and Coloradoans to take care of their snow... It's much easier to do so in NYC.
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diehardbiker said:
Do you have any idea where snow comes from? Generally it comes from lake, river, ocean wherever there is body of water. They evaporates into air and when it hits right temperature it turn into snow. Dumping snow in lake, river, etc only returns it back. We the Rochesters do dump snow in river for years.

Plus whenever snow melts, it goes back to river though storm drainage so it makes no difference,
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Most of the snow that comes here comes from Gulf of Mexico or Pacific Ocean, depending on flow of moisture and all that stuff.
 
diehardbiker said:
I disagree, in Colorado and Alaska, snow are much "drier" than in back East. Wet snow is much harder to remove than dry snow. Plus, you may not realize alot of streets in NYC are much narrower than in Alaska and Colorado which makes snow removal extremely difficult. You may look it as easy, but in reality it is not.

Dry snow, pretty much soft flaky, verses wet snow which has more density in it and not flaky, in other words compacted and harder.
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Yeah the snow here is soft and fluffy while the snow in Seattle is heavy and very wet. It causes lots of slushy mess.
 
sequoias said:
Yeah the snow here is soft and fluffy while the snow in Seattle is heavy and very wet. It causes lots of slushy mess.
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now you see that superheating it is a waste?
 
sequoias said:
There still has to be a way...technology will advance. :lol: Sorry, I'm stubborn. ;)
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when it comes to solution - I'm not a believer in technology because it's usually wasteful, costly, and impractical.

the best solution is usually the simplest one..... dump it in the lake :lol:
 
Jiro said:
when it comes to solution - I'm not a believer in technology because it's usually wasteful, costly, and impractical.

the best solution is usually the simplest one..... dump it in the lake :lol:
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How would they move all that snow to the lake or river, that requires lot of energy, too. ;) It would require many dump trucks to carry it.
 
diehardbiker said:
I disagree, in Colorado and Alaska, snow are much "drier" than in back East. Wet snow is much harder to remove than dry snow. Plus, you may not realize alot of streets in NYC are much narrower than in Alaska and Colorado which makes snow removal extremely difficult. You may look it as easy, but in reality it is not.

Dry snow, pretty much soft flaky, verses wet snow which has more density in it and not flaky, in other words compacted and harder.
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Well Well.. We have custom snow shovelers. it is designed for 30 inches of snow, HEAVY snow.

ANd its snowing right now.. heavy stuff, not powdery. :)

Again, i doubt you've went to roads in vail and such..
 
authentic said:
Looks like they hired him yesterday.
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Seriously, I agree. I used to operate Ford 2100 tractor where I navigated through heavy forest by adjusting the front loader and back bucket to get through between the tree. By looking at this video, he should use more front loader and set it on the ground and lift the front wheels off the ground and turn the steering wheels to the right which cause the "catipiller" motion to the right then repeat the same steps to clear out of the way from the car.

Jeesus operator.
 
The outraged wife of the vehicle’s owner, who didn’t want to appear on camera because her husband works for the City that owns the damaged vehicle, spoke with CBS 2 Tuesday.
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This doesn't make a lot of sense to me. "Outraged wife of ... owner." Then in the same sentence it says the city owns the damaged vehicle.
 
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