No Child Left Behind Act

here we start in the 3rd grade

with the tests and NO its not good
because the children don't get anything but stressed out knowing if I fail I am in this grade again and granted here they have 3 chances and then ....

but I don't see it cutting out special ed here or other classes by any means .
I see the kids getting no party time ( which I think is a rite of passage ) no recess and no free learning everything is gone and extra like music and art here


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Do you like this law or not? I hate this law because it can harm children's education, removes special/bilingual education, removes gifted education and causes most school to fail but some system need provides for deaf students with moderate/low with test score, mental problem, blind and disease that cause permanent disabled. I think NCLB need to abandon after 2008 and every school would going back to normal and stop stress with this law.
 
I don't know what to say about the NCLB Act. I graduated high school in 1994 and I didn't really have problems because I graduated at grade level.
 
VamPyroX said:
I don't know what to say about the NCLB Act. I graduated high school in 1994 and I didn't really have problems because I graduated at grade level.
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It really isn't about graduating at grade level. My high school is in a predominately white, upper-middle class community, where the large majority of the students graduate at or above grade level, and yet the school is receiving failing scores on the NCLB tests.
 
DeafSCUBA98 said:
and what did you do about it? did u encourage ur daughter to study more? did you SUE the school for not following NCLBA? there's many ways to make a change.
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DeafSCUBA98,

What I intend on doing the next time the school district has a referendum, instead of voting "yes" as I have in the past, I will vote "NO" because if you drive by your local school, take a look at what you don't see: No kids playing on the fields, in the parks, nowhere. Sports need to be cut, as they're not using what they've got. Using them only three weeks out of the year and having them padlocked the rest of the year is senseless and a waste of tax dollars. This is why I will vote no.
 
ayala920 said:
No Child Left Behind was a nice idea upon conception, but the hope of it succeeding has long since faded. One of the major flaws is the standardized testing, which all students are required to take. That means a child at the best school in the country will be taking the same test as a child at the worst school. Furthermore, the schools get ranked based on how well they do on the tests, and those with low scores lose funding. Call me crazy, but it seems that schools that are failing should be getting more funding to help them meet the standards.

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Yeah, I mostly agree with you there. It really puts pressure on the individual schools to justify themselves and it may have nothing to do with the teaching staff! I don't think it really benefits the kids taking the test. They are supposed to already know the stuff on it and their class grades reflect that fact. The "one size fits all" testing also doesn't account for all the factors in student backgrounds.

I'm not sure I can agree with the idea of just throwing money to schools that are failing. Some of these students have problems that go a whole lot deeper than what money alone can handle. Lots of them have a horrendous homelife and just having a very nice school (with a first class teaching staff) to attend isn't going to address this issue. In some instances, it can exacerbate the situation for them exposing the glaring inconsistency between their lives and others.
 
josey said:
with the tests and NO its not good
because the children don't get anything but stressed out knowing if I fail I am in this grade again and granted here they have 3 chances and then ....

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Actually, I believe the test doesn't have anything to do with a child passing their grade or not. That is determined by the regular class grades. The tests are for how a school is graded and its funding issues. Maybe, I'm missing something here...

Yeah, we just been there with our third grader (now in forth - our kids are in year around school). I remember a couple of years ago my son was telling me that everybody had to be extra quiet in the halls just for the students taking the tests. It is not only stressful for the one's taking the tests but also for the ones not taking it and knowing what they have to deal with at some point themselves!
 
ayala920 said:
It really isn't about graduating at grade level. My high school is in a predominately white, upper-middle class community, where the large majority of the students graduate at or above grade level, and yet the school is receiving failing scores on the NCLB tests.
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The town, that I live in, have a well-respected school district but was placed on the "Failing Districts" list last year because 10-15 special education students (who attend school outside of district) did not meet the standard for first-and-half year of high school math.
 
sr171soars said:
Yeah, I mostly agree with you there. It really puts pressure on the individual schools to justify themselves and it may have nothing to do with the teaching staff! I don't think it really benefits the kids taking the test. They are supposed to already know the stuff on it and their class grades reflect that fact. The "one size fits all" testing also doesn't account for all the factors in student backgrounds.

I'm not sure I can agree with the idea of just throwing money to schools that are failing. Some of these students have problems that go a whole lot deeper than what money alone can handle. Lots of them have a horrendous homelife and just having a very nice school (with a first class teaching staff) to attend isn't going to address this issue. In some instances, it can exacerbate the situation for them exposing the glaring inconsistency between their lives and others.
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I'm not saying that money is the problem, or that giving school's more money will solve anything. However, taking money away from schools that barely have money to begin with is detrimental.
 
ayala920 said:
I'm not saying that money is the problem, or that giving school's more money will solve anything. However, taking money away from schools that barely have money to begin with is detrimental.
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Said that way, I would have to agree with you. Then, I guess it really becomes interesting to examine whether if "No Child Left Behind" can be salvaged or not?

There are two trends that appear and counter each other. The first trend is to hold schools accountable for ensuring that all children get a good education. Obviously, that is what "No Child Left Behind" attempts to address. As we have seen, it is problematic if it really accomplishes that purpose especially if the failing schools lose funding. In one sense, it does that by forcing a failing school to close. But the problem becomes whether or not the school had an impossible task to begin with if most of the children come from backgrounds that doesn't lend itself to good students. This assumes the premise that generally the best students come from good schools and good family backgrounds (but not always wealthy either).

That brings up the second trend...and that is dealing with the world of the child and its environment (i.e., the homelife). The homelife can have a significant impact on how a student achieves in school. So, if the parent(s) is struggling for a variety of reasons, it is unreasonable to expect lots of parential involvement in the lives of these students.

Nothing is easy about the whole thing...
 
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