Never Mock God!

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Eh ?! How many times have you heard about " karma " ? I am sure many people who are not christian know what it means and have agreed with me on " what goes around comes around " issue. That scriptures of Galatians 6:7 tells the VERY SAME thing. In that scripture it says " ...for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap ". You are the one who is VERY ignorant, because YOU don't understand this scripture and it means.

I know what karma means. It's a social concept and it's relative. What's considered "bad" may not be bad for others. You woefully ignore that morality is relative (even killing is not always immoral) and that their lifespan is NOT affected by their belief (or lack of) in Jesus. A quick glance at Japan should be enough to discredit your delusional thinking.

You made it clear that if you don't believe in Jesus, you'll die. That's where I think you're an idiot.
 
Quite a group of misguided Christians we have here.

God is not a murderer, and he wouldn't resort to killing human beings over mockery alone. That's not who he is.

The Bible is also not to be taken literally. You see, it's used as a life guide. However, you must keep reminding yourself that just because the men claim it's the words God spoke doesn't mean it's true. A lot of the verses were written with the intention to be taken figuratively. It's a book used to teach people, but not to be taken literally.

People here clearly take it too literal and go bonkers over it.
 
This topic is HILARIOUS!

All those references in the original are probably all fake. Hehehe. Yeah, Marylin Monroe died one week after she purportedly said something like that? Well, lemme tell ya, I mocked God when I was 6, and twenty years later, I'm still alive. Man, why did God give me a 20 year reprieve, when Marylin Monroe only got a week?

On top of that, all of us insult SOME GOD in everything we do. It's just that Christians worship one particular God, while everyone else worships other gods. So, I'm mocking the Jewish God for doing some work on Sunday. And the Muslim God for not being Muslim. And the Hindu God for eating cow at lunch today. Why the frak would I NOT be dead now, with ALL Gods gunning for me? Hmm?
 
CLOGGY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How dare you post this here???? This is so DISGUSTING and very DISHONOR of you to God!

God already saw what you did. That's really shame of yourself! It's very insulting.

I couldn't believe this!!!!!
Heh, YOU posted the picture again.... !!!!

If you are so upset about that picture.... that only emphesizes it !!
 
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Yeah, and I'm not sure why some Christians would want to portray God as a serial killer going after some people who "mock" him. :-/
Exactly!

The Bible portrays God as a being who forgives everyone regardless of what they do.

So, if this is true... mocking him won't make him do something back to us. If he actually does do something back to us, then he's no different than those other so-called gods like Zeus, Ra, etc...
 
Theseus, thanks for a thought-provoking (and compassionate) post. I respect that. I too think it is silly that some mortals dare to presume they would be God's spokespeople and act like mobsters. I wonder if that is considered a sin somewhere in this book. lol


EagleCherokee63, CyberRed, SmileyGin, Momoftwo

I'm a Christian; but when Christian people put together stories that carry a death threat against others who don't share the same beliefs or worship the same God, this is very un-Christian-like.

This makes me (a Christian) want to challenge your own individual beliefs--obviously so biased, slanted, and skewed as Guido stated. Maybe you should ask yourself two questions:

1. Do you believe in Christianity because you were raised by parents and the community to believe that way? Remember, what gets reinforced early on in childhood may require self-examination to find if you've been programmed that way, or because you made it out of a conscious and self-educated decision-making process. As kids, our brains are much more easily brainwashed.

2. Or have you chosen Christianity out of an educated decision, with knowledge of other religions and cultures not taught to you by your own church?

Believe me, this article itself is hypocritical and unethical.

Ask yourself this also:

3. If you were raised in a different culture and different religion such as Buddhism or Judaism or Egyptian Heliolatry (Sun Worship), would've you been brainwashed just as easily into saying they are correct about everything just because they tell you so?

(*A closer look at our language tells us that even the term 'right' is biased, because in the English language, it has a positive definition, and the term 'left' has a negative definition. "Throughout history being left-handed was considered as negative - the Latin word sinister meant 'left'. Hence the many negative connotations associated with the word "left-handed": clumsy, awkward, unlucky, insincere, sinister, malicious, and so on." That is why I usually choose the word "correct" instead of "right" when I refer to something as being correct.)

Have you heard of the word enthocentrism, which is a word taught in cultural anthropology? Ethnocentrism. That link has some good info worth reading, because it brings to light something that should be very obvious but that most people don't know because they are trapped "in the box" so to speak. As Einstein once said, "Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are even incapable of forming such opinions."

The term ethnocentricity was coined by William Graham Sumner, a social evolutionist and professor of Political and Social Science at Yale University. He defined it as the viewpoint that “one’s own group is the center of everything,” against which all other groups are judged. Ethnocentrism often entails the belief that one's own race or ethnic group is the most important and/or that some or all aspects of its culture are superior to those of other groups. Within this ideology, individuals will judge other groups in relation to their own particular ethnic group or culture, especially with concern to language, behaviour, customs, and religion.

4. Take a moment and ask yourself: "Does Ethnocentricism apply to me or not?"

Think of this when it comes to religion.

You just might be surprised.
 
Exactly!

The Bible portrays God as a being who forgives everyone regardless of what they do.

So, if this is true... mocking him won't make him do something back to us. If he actually does do something back to us, then he's no different than those other so-called gods like Zeus, Ra, etc...

Well, actually ... blaspheming against the holy spirit is unforgivable, saith the scriptures. So either the Bible is non-literal, or your God is not all that different from other gods.
 
There are different forms how to mock God. But all this timidating and rash rant of this thread need to cool down. Correct God doesn't go out to kill someone, but a person response or the way of life conswquenses will always be there, noone , not one soul will escape the consequences. No, that's not how that works for not praying then you die, no that is not christians teach. There sooo much I notice so much wrong ideas and wrong theories or wrong concepts of christians and christians teaching. Its nothing but bitter, hatred toward christians and mock also. Continue to mock, and goes on and on with the mock of God, that meant clearly those who does that, hating those who love and caring, that's how I see that. So, yes, it doesn't happen to everyone, its a degree how a person say and do. Learn to chill.
 
Well, actually ... blaspheming against the holy spirit is unforgivable, saith the scriptures. So either the Bible is non-literal, or your God is not all that different from other gods.
I've given God the finger for years. Here I am sitting alive and well... talking to all of you.

So, you're saying that God has a right to kill those who mock him?
 
Of who God is has nothing to do with "rights". All of us will be judged. As a parallel, God is holy God, we are sinners, and we sinned. The problem is not about "religions", its about who God is. God is our Creator. The point there is so much misconceptions and meaningless about who Jesus is. About the cross seems foolish to many. True, as I said before, many christians set a very poor example which God didn't call us to do. But at the same time, God will not give us any of excuse who we believe or not to believe (talking about a person who have heard). Prayer life, church going, each person repsond differently either by legalistic attitude or desire to know Him. Its everyday thing, even non believer may never heard any pastors talked directly to christians about their behaving toward one another. And emphasis by letting the Holy Spirit burn within to do for His glory other than I do "for" Him. Rejecting the Son Jesus is rejecting God's offer and that's not harsh thing to say, it is by refusing loving offering to bring all of us to be with Him. How that possible? Jesus Blood same way about the sacrifice during OT. It is not myth at all, but the facts. Many think love mean you do whatever you want to do. Remember love has boundaries for protection. God sees which we don't see for ourselves. God wants all off us have relationship with Him than being religions. That's what the cross is all about, not about the "rights". Just like judge here similar who God is, only God is justice Judge than earthly judge. What goes around come around is anything good or bad. I've learned a lot last several years and the change bec what I learned little by little, bec I stick my nose in the Book instead of relying on pastor himself, I must study to make sure if its align, I'm very cautious of who teaches. And how I can allow God's love flow thru me to others, not I, but Christ Himself.
 
Theseus, thanks for a thought-provoking (and compassionate) post. I respect that. I too think it is silly that some mortals dare to presume they would be God's spokespeople and act like mobsters. I wonder if that is considered a sin somewhere in this book. lol

Liza, I think it's silly too. There's a difference between being a fundamental Christian/evangelist as opposed to being a fanatic/mobster. I don't like it when I see religions of any kind carrying out death threats, because it has a striking resemblence to tactics deployed in terrorism.

One article from WorldNetDaily states: "Terrorism is intimidation. The terrorists' end-game is to so frighten us that we not only cower in fear, but are converted – that is, our fear actually causes a change in our attitudes and beliefs regarding the terrorists and their cause."

The only difference I noticed is that terrorists take it much further and actually kill people who don't convert. The threats are similar, that "you'll die as a consequence." In the Bible, Jesus tells Christians to be peacemakers. There are other verses and passages that go against misrepresentation of Christianity, such as the one about "masquerading as apostles of Christ" found in 2 Cor. 13-15. While some Christians may have good intentions, little do they know they may be misrepresenting Christ, and doing the devil's work instead. There is a line between God's thinking and the thoughts of men.
 
Well, actually ... blaspheming against the holy spirit is unforgivable, saith the scriptures. So either the Bible is non-literal, or your God is not all that different from other gods.

There is much more to it than that. If you are familiar with the story of Saul becoming Paul, you will see that he oppressed Christians and blasphemied God before he was converted by God himself. Why would God convert a blasphemer?

Even Martin Luther, founder of the Protestant Reformation, was himself tormented by thoughts that he had committed this sin, freeing himself only after studying the promises of God in the Scriptures.

Obviously there's more to it than using God's name in vain or using other disrespectful remarks. I agree that not everything can be interpreted literally. And don't forget that even a mistranslation, or a variation of language, can greatly change the context of what's being interpreted.
 
Only unpardonable sin that Jesus mentioned is the day of His time. Many got so confuse thinking today many are living unpardonable sin. Jesus foresaw those who are living unpardonable sin. Inspite of any kind, we are still living under grace and pardon for all, and that is He draws us to Himself thru Christ Jesus.
 
People will die once they mock god? *scoff* Too Impossible... I knew few people in my life did mock the God, they are still here and alive! How can you prove it? I don't care if you already have that prove in here because it sounds sooooo silly! Maybe they died for SOME reasons, not that mock god... :roll: Whatever you say..
 
Only unpardonable sin that Jesus mentioned is the day of His time. Many got so confuse thinking today many are living unpardonable sin. Jesus foresaw those who are living unpardonable sin. Inspite of any kind, we are still living under grace and pardon for all, and that is He draws us to Himself thru Christ Jesus.

Saul/Paul is the exact defense to your made up beliefs. He was a blathesmer who mocked God for years. There are people who mock God all their lives and still die mocking Him.

Why was Saul/Paul ever forgiven, even after mocking God? Why couldn't those other mockers be given the same chance? Hmm?

What's not to say that if I live until 300 years old, I'll stop mocking God and accept him into my heart? Does He just say, "Aw, fuck it, Dennis mocked me, and I have a quota of deaths today, so even if he will eventually believe in me, into the ground he goes."

Nope.
 
Saul/Paul is the exact defense to your made up beliefs. He was a blathesmer who mocked God for years. There are people who mock God all their lives and still die mocking Him.

Why was Saul/Paul ever forgiven, even after mocking God? Why couldn't those other mockers be given the same chance? Hmm?

What's not to say that if I live until 300 years old, I'll stop mocking God and accept him into my heart? Does He just say, "Aw, fuck it, Dennis mocked me, and I have a quota of deaths today, so even if he will eventually believe in me, into the ground he goes."

Nope.
Remember, God foresees. God knows people choices and yes, God giving them choices. At my early christian I couldn't understand, the more I get to know Him, there is so much I now begin to see what He is saying. It is again nothing to do with defending Paul, God foreknew and He is Omniscient God.
 
Right on Cloggy!
Momoftwo, a HUGE part of the reason why more people aren't Christian is b/c they are SO turned off by holier then thou people, or people who think that THEIR WAY is the ONLY RIGHT WAY, and everyone else is doomed to punishment b/c of not believeing in that particualr God.
I do not believe in the Judeo-Christian God. I believe in a Higher Power, mostly b/c I've been so turned off by Christianity b/c of the reasons stated above!
 
EagleCherokee63, CyberRed, SmileyGin, Momoftwo

I'm a Christian; but when Christian people put together stories that carry a death threat against others who don't share the same beliefs or worship the same God, this is very un-Christian-like.

This makes me (a Christian) want to challenge your own individual beliefs--obviously so biased, slanted, and skewed as Guido stated. Maybe you should ask yourself two questions:

1. Do you believe in Christianity because you were raised by parents and the community to believe that way? Remember, what gets reinforced early on in childhood may require self-examination to find if you've been programmed that way, or because you made it out of a conscious and self-educated decision-making process. As kids, our brains are much more easily brainwashed.

2. Or have you chosen Christianity out of an educated decision, with knowledge of other religions and cultures not taught to you by your own church?

Believe me, this article itself is hypocritical and unethical.

Ask yourself this also:

3. If you were raised in a different culture and different religion such as Buddhism or Judaism or Egyptian Heliolatry (Sun Worship), would've you been brainwashed just as easily into saying they are correct about everything just because they tell you so?

(*A closer look at our language tells us that even the term 'right' is biased, because in the English language, it has a positive definition, and the term 'left' has a negative definition. "Throughout history being left-handed was considered as negative - the Latin word sinister meant 'left'. Hence the many negative connotations associated with the word "left-handed": clumsy, awkward, unlucky, insincere, sinister, malicious, and so on." That is why I usually choose the word "correct" instead of "right" when I refer to something as being correct.)

Have you heard of the word enthocentrism, which is a word taught in cultural anthropology? Ethnocentrism. That link has some good info worth reading, because it brings to light something that should be very obvious but that most people don't know because they are trapped "in the box" so to speak. As Einstein once said, "Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are even incapable of forming such opinions."

The term ethnocentricity was coined by William Graham Sumner, a social evolutionist and professor of Political and Social Science at Yale University. He defined it as the viewpoint that “one’s own group is the center of everything,” against which all other groups are judged. Ethnocentrism often entails the belief that one's own race or ethnic group is the most important and/or that some or all aspects of its culture are superior to those of other groups. Within this ideology, individuals will judge other groups in relation to their own particular ethnic group or culture, especially with concern to language, behaviour, customs, and religion.

4. Take a moment and ask yourself: "Does Ethnocentricism apply to me or not?"

Think of this when it comes to religion.

You just might be surprised.

FYI, I am not talkin' about " famous people " who died just because, they were mockin' God. I talked about the scriptures itself that I totally agree about not to mock God. It's people's business in between them and God and what they do in their lives. People can say WHAT EVER they want to say -- THAT'S their choices. When they died and meet their Maker, then there's a DIFFERENT story. I can't be there to save them. They make their lives what they make it. That's people's decisions when God gave them choices.
 
I know what karma means. It's a social concept and it's relative. What's considered "bad" may not be bad for others. You woefully ignore that morality is relative (even killing is not always immoral) and that their lifespan is NOT affected by their belief (or lack of) in Jesus. A quick glance at Japan should be enough to discredit your delusional thinking.

You made it clear that if you don't believe in Jesus, you'll die. That's where I think you're an idiot.

Okay, I want you to tell me if, you don't believe in Jesus ( reject Him as personal Saviour ), then tell me where do YOU think you will go after you die ? That's WHERE it lies when people mock God about this part and don't think that there's God out there or what ever ... but, then their souls will go straight to hell without acceptin' Jesus Christ as their personal Saviour. Jesus warned about hell many times in the bible. Don't call me an idiot. Okay ? I don't create Heaven and Hell. I am NOT the Maker. I was NOT there when He created all these things Himself. Understand ? I just tell people what God says from the Holy Bible. I believe there's God out there myself.
 
Okay, I want you to tell me if, you don't believe in Jesus ( reject Him as personal Saviour ), then tell me where do YOU think you will go after you die ? That's WHERE it lies when people mock God about this part and don't think that there's God out there or what ever ... but, then their souls will go straight to hell without acceptin' Jesus Christ as their personal Saviour. Jesus warned about hell many times in the bible. Don't call me an idiot. Okay ? I don't create Heaven and Hell. I am NOT the Maker. I was NOT there when He created all these things Himself. Understand ? I just tell people what God says from the Holy Bible. I believe there's God out there myself.

So basically all Muslims, Jews, Hindus, and others who dont believe that Jesus was the Messiah will be sent to Hell???

Fear is what makes many people try to be good. I see fear in this thread - if you mock God, you will die! That is fear and it has worked on millions of people who turned to God out of fear, not genuine wanting to learn about His Word.

Dont get me wrong - I am a Christian and truly do believe in God & Jesus, but I dont believe in putting fear in other people's minds is the way to go. People will simply laugh or scoff at you out of fear. Jesus never put fear in anyone so why it is up to us human beings to try to control people by fear???!
 
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