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There needs to be a new category added under Deaf Interests. Just like there is a Hearing Aids and Cochlear Implants forum, there needs to be one called Stem Cell Therapy for the end-all of hearing disabilities. Someone needs to get that field rolling out there.

Stephanie
 
There needs to be a new category added under Deaf Interests. Just like there is a Hearing Aids and Cochlear Implants forum, there needs to be one called Stem Cell Therapy for the end-all of hearing disabilities. Someone needs to get that field rolling out there.

Stephanie

Why? We love to argue about that in the CI section. Fighting unites us! :wave::wave:
 
Why? We love to argue about that in the CI section. Fighting unites us! :wave::wave:

Because people need to be aware of the potential for stem cell therapy. It would do away with the need for hearing aids, audiologists who dispense hearing aids, the need to be dependent on surgery for CI maintenance. What if America melts down - no batteries nor surgery if something breaks.

This is no joke. This has the potential to drastically improve the lives of many who straddle the worlds of hearing and deaf, who are not really accepted in either one.
 
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Because people need to be aware of the potential for stem cell therapy. It would do away with the need for hearing aids, audiologists who dispense hearing aids, the need to be dependent on surgery for CI maintenance. What if America melts down - no batteries nor surgery if something breaks.

This is no joke. This has the potential to drastically improve the lives of many who straddle the worlds of hearing and deaf, who are not really accepted in either one.

OMG! America is gonna melt down? We better start saving up money to move to Australia before this country melts down! Shit! :Ohno::hyper::run:

Oh please. The USA's economy may be in the toilet but there's always other places to get batteries and surgeries if that actually happens. USA isn't the only country on earth, you know. Or have you been living in a cave up until now?

We will always need audiologists anyway - who else would diagnose deafness/hearing losses?

HAs and CIs will never be done away with - there's always a large section of the deaf population who won't qualify for CIs or don't want CIs and therefore need HAs. And there is enough of us who want CIs for the CI market to go on. Until something much better comes along, we still will have CIs, and there will always be a demand for CI batteries and parts and whatnot until everyone who has a CI dies of old age in 100 or more years. Until then, I'm most certainly not concerned about my CI parts or batteries, or even any further CI surgeries to replace older CIs with newer one or whatever. As long as there's enough demand it will still be there.

ABIs and PABIs may be very new technology but it still is not as good as CIs - the ABIs actually have poorer results compared to CIs. With ABIs you actually will only hear enough for environmental sounds so hearing and understanding speech usually is out of the question, and as far as PABIs there aren't enough information on the internet right now for me to really say anything about them. There needs to be more information written about PABIs on the internet. I think it's only just come out in the last year or two as I have had never heard about PABIs until maybe about three months or so ago and even so I would never be interested in it. Both ABIs and PABIs require surgeon to touch and deal with your brain/brainstem, so there is no fucking way I would eve consider them. With CIs the surgeons never have to touch your brain, which is a very good thing. I don't think I want to end up a vegetable! :run:

CIs will still be around for at least the rest of my lifetime. I am not worried at all.

:roll:
 
OMG! America is gonna melt down? We better start saving up money to move to Australia before this country melts down! Shit! :Ohno::hyper::run:

:laugh2: :laugh2:

I'm also not concerned about CIs being replaced by stem cell treatments. What do people think companies like Cochlear, AB and Med-El are going to do? Go out of business? :roll:
 
I think that stem cell research should start focusing more on regenerating brains rather than hearing nerves or anything to treat deafness because apparently some people do need a new brain...:roll: And nope I am not talking about mentally challenged people at all, they are just fine, I'm just talking about people that deserves the Darwin award.
 
I think that stem cell research should start focusing more on regenerating brains rather than hearing nerves or anything to treat deafness because apparently some people do need a new brain...:roll: And nope I am not talking about mentally challenged people at all, they are just fine, I'm just talking about people that deserves the Darwin award.

I couldn't agree with you more Lucia.
 
These are the comments I normally hear. You see, anything that can go wrong will go wrong. It's a fact of life. Things break.

Hear Again, I don't know what is funny about stem cell research or genetic research into diseases and deformities. Imagine growing a new arm, leg, or eye for hundreds of thousands of our vets who have been injured in combat. Growing new retinal tissue for those with macular degeneration. Teeth for people who've lost them, improving their ability to chew foods and improving their quality of life.

Lucia, you are a citizen of the US, right? If you want to move to Australia because you won't stand your ground against those who want to take our things and our lives from us, go right ahead. I will in the meantime defend your right to do and think as you want, even though I can't serve in the military.

I would not consider PABI and ABI for the same reason. Just as you consider these to be invasive beyond a comfortable level, so do I consider the CI method.

And Hear Again, you have a valid concern about the CI industry going out of business. Even if it did happen, people who are alert about the business environment around them will move out of it and retrain into something else before they lose their mortgages, their jobs, and businesses. It's what people who watch the trends do; they'll go from one field to another with the skills that are transferrable, before they're forced to do so. I know someone who was a manager at one of the car lots in town and was laid off. If he had known what I knew about the financial markets 4 years ago, he would have gotten out into something else, like oil and gas, alternative fuel technology, infrastructure design for such systems, etc.

Everything that has happened, I knew it was going to happen several years back. That's why I don't own a house, stocks or bonds, etc. I have two maillists, one called the Silver list which is forwarding of things I find on the Internet and one called "I Told You So," which is a submission of evidence out there to the same group of people that shows that people who made the wrong election decisions are paying for it and how. I've been doing this for 4 years, and started financial research nearly 5 years ago. I winced at the cave thing, not because it hurts me (no skin off my nose), but because I suspect you're not prepared for what's coming this fall. What we saw last fall was devastating to a lot of people, yes ($20 TRILLION of wealth lost thus far in the US alone), but that is nothing compared to what we've got coming for the next several years. What you failed to understand is California for example. They have no fiscal responsibility whatsoever. They don't even know where money comes from or how it's earned. What if Texas, if going down a similar path, runs out of money to fund the surgeries needed to fix a malfunctioning or aging CI? And say that the US government defaults on its debts and runs out of the ability to print up more paper money? What then? That's my point. I'm not necessarily talking Terminators, Thunderdome. I'm talking about the mere possibility that the agencies responsible for your CIs going broke or having to ration services, which will happen if government is not restrained properly or medical goes totally socialized - look at service disbursement percentages in Canada, UK, and Europe.

This is the best I can do right now, trying to distill 5 years worth of research into these lines here. There is so much I didn't mention, but I didn't want to drag out what is already a long post. The next several years are going to be interesting, because things are playing out as I expected them to (unfortunately).

Stephanie
 
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Long story short, I look forward to the day I can get as much of my hearing back, so that I can enjoy music to its fullest. I enjoy music a lot. I love it. I can only imagine what a hearing person hears. In the meantime, I make do with what I have.

Stephanie
 
Don't run away. I think we have the modern Nostradamus. :wave:

Tee hee! No, I don't predict the future. I can only tell you certain things have a high probability of going one way or the other. Sometimes I'm wrong in the short-term, but they eventually happen long-term. Gold/silver going up, real estate crashing in the last two-plus years, the dollar not doing very well, unemployment, etc. I saw that coming because I did research, saw it happen, and then knew I was onto something.

Stephanie
 
Tee hee! No, I don't predict the future. I can only tell you certain things have a high probability of going one way or the other. Sometimes I'm wrong in the short-term, but they eventually happen long-term. Gold/silver going up, real estate crashing in the last two-plus years, the dollar not doing very well, unemployment, etc. I saw that coming because I did research, saw it happen, and then knew I was onto something.

Stephanie
Actually I often wondered about stem cell and/or the ability to clone a body part such as a cochlea or something along those lines. The problem you run into is that there are some deaf folks that don't want to hear. They simply don't care and they dont believe they need to hear and they have every right to their positions. Deafness to some, is not something that needs to be fixed. There are also many that have deep roots in D/deaf culture and feel that anything that gives deaf people the ability to hear is contributing to cultural genocide. It comes down to a pathalogical view vs. a cultural view of deafness. Personally I belive if there is something that helps and proves beneficial then by all means it should be included as a choice for folks to make.
 
Stephanie,

I said I do not have any concerns about CI companies going out of business.
 
Hear Again, I don't know what is funny about stem cell research or genetic research into diseases and deformities.

Who said anything was funny about stem cell research? I said I was amused by the discussion regarding this topic. There is a difference.

Please do not presume to tell me about the importance of stem cell research. In another thread I said I would like to see this kind of research focus on efforts to treat cancer and mental illness. My dear mother passed away from the worst kind of cancer you can have (pancreatic cancer) and I'm diagnosed with what is considered to be a "severe" and "difficult to treat" case of bipolar (according to my psychiatrist).

I would appreciate it if you and kokomo would stop making inaccurate assumptions about me. Thank you.
 
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