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[loml]

I'd say a system has to be in widespread use before it can be determined that it is capable of accomplishing anything. Forty years after Dr. Cornett devised the system, it has not been used on a consistent enough basis to determine its efficacy in any capacity. The best there is out there is a few anecdotal accounts. There is virtually nothing that supports its efficacy in language acquisition,as a communication sstem, and cerainly not its efficacy in increasing literacy scores. Everything about it is unsupported hypothesis.

jillio - Once again it is obvious that you have not read the research on Cued Speech. Below is a list of research, articles and books on the efficacy of Cued Speech. Enjoy! I believe in the sharing of information.

Alegria, J., Dejean, K., Capouillez, J., & Leybaert, J. (1990). Role played by Cued Speech in the identification of written words encountered for the first time by deaf children. Cued Speech Journal, 4, 4-9.

Alegria, J., Lechat, J., & Leybaert, J. (1990). Role of Cued Speech in the identification of words in the deaf child: Theory and preliminary data. Cued Speech Journal, 4, 10-23.

Fleetwood, E., & Metzger, M. (1998a). Cued language structure: An analysis of cued American English based on linguistic principles. Silver Spring, MD: Calliope Press.

Fleetwood, E., & Metzger, M. (1998b). What’s the difference between Cued Speech, cued English, cued language, and cuem. Silver Spring, MD: Calliope Press.

Hauser, P. (2000). Code switching: American Sign Language and cued English. In M. Metzger (Ed.), Bilingualism and identity in deaf communities. Washington, DC: Gallaudet University Press.

Hauser, P., & Klossner, C. (2001). Prosody and cued English. Paper presented at Visions 98, Gallaudet University, Washington, DC.

Kipila, E. (1985). Analysis of an oral language sample from a prelingually deaf child’s Cued Speech: A case study. Cued Speech Journal, 1, 46-59.

Kipila, E. & Williams-Scott, B. (1990). Cued speech: A response to "controversy within sign language". In Garretson, M.D. (Ed.). Eyes, hands, voices: Communication issues among deaf people (pp. 71-74). Silver Spring, MD: National Association of the Deaf.

Kyllo Larsen, K. Phonemic Awareness through Immersion in Cued American English. (Fall 2003) Odyssey,

LaSasso, C., Crain, K. Research and Theory Support Cued Speech (Fall 2003) Odyssey,

LaSasso, C., Crain, K., & Leybaert, J. (2003). Rhyme generation in deaf students: The effect of exposure to Cued Speech. Journal of Deaf Studies and Deaf Education, 8(3), 250- 270.

LaSasso, C., & Melanie, M. (1998). An alternate route to bilingualism: The home language as L1 and Cued Speech for conveying traditionally spoken languages. Journal of Deaf Studies and Deaf Education, 3(4), 264-289.

Leybaert, J. (1993). Reading in the deaf: The roles of phonological codes. In M. Marschark & M. Diane Clark (Eds.), Psychological Perspectives on Deafness (pp. 269-311). Hillsdale, NJ: Lawrence Erlbaum, Assoc.

Leybaert, J., & Charlier, B. (1996). Visual speech in the head: The effect of Cued Speech on rhyming, remembering, and spelling. Journal of Deaf Studies and Deaf Education, 1, 234-248.

Metzger, M. (1994a). Involvement strategies in cued English discourse: Soundless expressive phonology. Manuscript, Georgetown University.

Metzger, M. (1994b). First language acquisition in deaf children of hearing parents. Manuscript, Georgetown University.

Moseley, M., Williams-Scott, B., & Anthony, C. (1991). Language expressed through Cued Speech: A pre-school case study. Poster session presented at the American Speech-Language-Hearing Association in Atlanta, GA.

Perier, O., Charlier, B., Hage, C., & Alegria, J. (l988). Evaluation of the effects of prolonged Cued Speech practice upon the reception of spoken language. In I. Taylor (Ed.), The education of the deaf: Current perspectives (Vol. 1), 1985 International Congress on the Education of the Deaf. Beckenham, Kent, UK: Croom Helm, LTD, 616-628.

Cued Speech Research

 

[jillio]

jillio - Once again it is obvious that you have not read the research on Cued Speech. Below is a list of research, articles and books on the efficacy of Cued Speech. Enjoy! I believe in the sharing of information.




Cued Speech Research

Got anything recent? And several of these research reports contain extremely small sample sizes, and therefore, cannot be generalized to anything more than the population participating in the study. And yes, I have read the research...in fact two of those articles are ones that I have cited in the past because the results largely support the fact that bilingualism, not CS is producing the best results. Just because you have compiled a list of titles and authors does not indicate that the results contained therein support your position.

And 17 research reports, articles, and/or books over a 40 year period? Like I said, there has not been sufficient research to support the use of cued speech in literacy, as a communication method, or for language acquisition.

 

[flip]

Originally Posted by flip


flip - also from the NCSA is:


www.cuedpseech.org

The focus on connecting signs to printed words only is misleading, and show lack of understanding how children develop literacy skills.

The written language is learnt in several ways. Through ASL with dicussions is just one of the strategies used in bi-bi programs. Phonemic awarness, fingerspelling or SEE style, writing, speech training is other methods, it's known that all students, hearing or deaf, have different strategies. Visual Phonics is also a part of the special programs for some students in some bi-bi programs. Cued Speech is redundant.

The rest of post includes old questions and claims that I have replied to earlier, so no need to reply to them, right?

 

[loml]

The written language is learnt in several ways. Through ASL with dicussions is just one of the strategies used in bi-bi programs. Phonemic awarness, fingerspelling or SEE style, writing, speech training is other methods, it's known that all students, hearing or deaf, have different strategies. Visual Phonics is also a part of the special programs for some students in some bi-bi programs. Cued Speech is redundant.

flip - I do not disagree with you that written language can be learnt in many different ways. However, by your definition Cued Speech is redundant; then everything except ASL is redundant.

By excluding redundancies, as you are suggesting, then the deaf/hoh child and their families would not be provided access/information to all the available tools, to enhance and embrace the unique learning styles of the individuals involved.

 

[jillio]

flip - I do not disagree with you that written language can be learnt in many different ways. However, by your definition Cued Speech is redundant; then everything except ASL is redundant.By excluding redundancies, as you are suggesting, then the deaf/hoh child and their families would not be provided access/information to all the available tools, to enhance and embrace the unique learning styles of the individuals involved.

Faulty logic on your part, loml.

 

[flip]

flip - I do not disagree with you that written language can be learnt in many different ways. However, by your definition Cued Speech is redundant; then everything except ASL is redundant.

See reply above from Jillio.

By excluding redundancies, as you are suggesting, then the deaf/hoh child and their families would not be provided access/information to all the available tools, to enhance and embrace the unique learning styles of the individuals involved.

I am not excluding redundancies, parents should be informed. They perhaps would like to learn how Cued Speech is redundant in some situations.

 

[loml]

I am not excluding redundancies, parents should be informed. They perhaps would like to learn how Cued Speech is redundant in some situations.

flip - In exactly what situations do you see Cued Speech as being redundant?

Thanks.

 

[jillio]

See reply above from Jillio.



I am not excluding redundancies, parents should be informed. They perhaps would like to learn how Cued Speech is redundant in some situations.

Agreed. If one is already providing a visual component for langauge, then adding additional modes in the same is redundant.

 

[loml]

Agreed. If one is already providing a visual component for langauge, then adding additional modes in the same is redundant.

jillio - What language are you referring to?

 

[jillio]

jillio - What language are you referring to?

Quite obviously, I am referring to oral language. A visual component does not need to be added to a visual language; it is inherent.

 

[loml]

originally posted by jillio

Agreed. If one is already providing a visual component for langauge, then adding additional modes in the same is redundant.

originally posted by jillio

A visual component does not need to be added to a visual language; it is inherent.

jillio - According to your above statement then, deaf and hoh people, who choose to provide the spoken language visual of lip movement or voice, while they sign, are actually adding something that is redundant.

 

[jillio]

originally posted by jillio




originally posted by jillio


jillio - According to your above statement then, deaf and hoh people, who choose to provide the spoken language visual of lip movement or voice, while they sign, are actually adding something that is redundant.

Nice try, loml, but no. Your logic is convoluted. Try sticking to valid support for your claims. Spoken language is sound based, and lip movements are inherent in its production. Add a class on effective argument to that linguistics 101 class, cognitive psychology class, and linguistic psychology class.

 

[loml]

Nice try, loml, but no. Your logic is convoluted. Try sticking to valid support for your claims. Spoken language is sound based, and lip movements are inherent in its production. Add a class on effective argument to that linguistics 101 class, cognitive psychology class, and linguistic psychology class.

jillio - You are attempting to redirect here. Your claim was this: originally posted by jillio

If one is already providing a visual component for langauge, then adding additional modes in the same is redundant

To which I stated this: originally posted by loml

According to your above statement then, deaf and hoh people, who choose to provide the spoken language visual of lip movement or voice, while they sign, are actually adding something that is redundant.

 

[flip]

flip - In exactly what situations do you see Cued Speech as being redundant?

Thanks.

I have replied to you earlier how cued speech is redundant, please find and read those posts again for an answer.

 

[jillio]

jillio - You are attempting to redirect here. Your claim was this: originally posted by jillio

To which I stated this: originally posted by loml

And to which I have replied, No. Your logic is convoluted. That is not redirection, loml, it is a clear and consise answer. Just because it is notthe answer you wanted does not mean that it is an attempt to redirect. Your constant refusal to accept the answers you are given, and continuing to ask the same questions ovwer and over, despite the fact that they have been answered, is redirection. Find a new tact. It is quite obvious that you are only attempting to entrap.

 

[loml]

I have replied to you earlier how cued speech is redundant, please find and read those posts again for an answer.

flip - Thank you, I did review the previous posts. Please correct me if I have not worded this correctly. You are of the opinion, that Cued Speech, used to teach English with an individual fluent/profecient in ASL, is redundant, because ASL uses the whole word approach to English.

 

[flip]

flip - Thank you, I did review the previous posts. Please correct me if I have not worded this correctly. You are of the opinion, that Cued Speech, used to teach English with an individual fluent/profecient in ASL, is redundant, because ASL uses the whole word approach to English.

?? Playing one of your silly games, aren't we?

 

[jillio]

?? Playing one of your silly games, aren't we?

Yep, again with the convoluted logic. Rather than attempting to discredit others by twisting words and coming up with unsubstantiated conclusions, loml needs to learn to support her arguments with valid counter statements. I guess she thinks that her use of English is so superior that she will be able to confuse and confound with her proficient manipulations of wording. Problem therein: it is not so proficient that others do not recognize the manipulations immediately.

 

[loml]

?? Playing one of your silly games, aren't we?

flip - I am simply looking for clarification so that I may try to understand your opinion. Did I paraphrase your opinion correctly or not?

Thanks

 

[jillio]

Yes. I would say it's plausible that manipulative people(or think they are manipulative) often lack some self insight, this perhaps explains why Loml is going in circles here, in spite of us trying to explain the circle movement and the faulty logic. Hope she finds a way out, if this is the case here.

We can only hope, flip, we can only hope.