Naida Q50 UPs and Direct Audio Boots

[RisinDragon]

In the beginning of June I got new Naidas Q50 UPs. :P After that time I had a friend of mine in England order Direct Audio Input Boots for them from Connevans.

I finally got them when we met up in Oregon for the weekend.

I followed the directions and what not. But I got a problem. I can't seem to get it to work. What am I missing? Does my hearing aids needs to be programmed to use this?

When I had my old PowerMAXX 411s, it was basically, plug and play.

These new ones I can't seem to get to work. The hearing aids are working well with the new battery adapter, but I just can't seem to get it to work via the 3.5mm headphone jack.

NaidaUPs,
I know you said you have these. I hope you can give me some suggestions or an idea of what I need to get them to work. I spent $100 to get them and now I need to troubleshoot them.

 

[NaidaUP]

Yes you need an FM program put into your hearing aids as well. You can ask for EasyFM program so when you start your music, it changes to the FM program straight away and when your stop, it will change back to your program you use everyday without you touching your Naidas.

If you don't have that program, it won't work no matter what.

 

[RisinDragon]

Good to know and thanks!

I have an appointment on the 30th of July with my Audiologist to get this and the ComPilot issues I have fixed (the ComPilot just stopped working out of the blue, I couldn't get it to reset or work).

I rather go to her prepared and equipped with the information, than we both trying to troubleshoot it by doing some random testing here and there without a clue where to go or what to do.

 

[VacationGuy234]

Keep in mind, your audiologist might not have the software to program your aid. Phonak does not give away their programming software. Your audiologist may not be able to afford it, mine couldn't.

 

[RisinDragon]

My audiologist has it. No worries there =)

 

[NaidaUP]

There was someone else on here that managed to get their ComPilot to stop working shortly after getting. He found out that he managed to break the neck line / loop. He had to have it replaced.

Have you made sure the neck line / loop is fully plugged in, in both ends? It hasn't come out slightly so stopped working?

With the FM program, I would recommend FM only with mics turned off if you are listening to music so you don't get any background noise. Phonak recommend that if you did want the mics turned on, that NoiseBlock was set to max to help block out as much background noise.

I personally prefer FM + mic on and have mics attenuated by 12db so I feel like the sound coming from the FM is greater no matter now loud the background noise is.

I did start with FM + mic with NoiseBlock set to max and when on the bus! I found the noise to be greater then the sound coming from the FM so couldn't hear. Attenuating the mics by 12db sorted my trouble out.

When I say FM, I mean the FM program that you need to use your DAI leads

 

[NaidaUP]

I would also recommend getting a spare pair of AS10 battery draws that allow you to use your audio shoes from your audiologist either in silver or black.

The audio shoes last a lot longer the battery draws do. Just means you don't have to order from the Connevans and have a spare pair of audio shoes left.

In my money, each battery draw is £2 so that's about $4 - $5 in your money.
Will be a lot cheaper doing it this way as well

Or if you can't get them from your audiologist, email paulminikin@gmail.com He can order them in for £2 each and post worldwide or he can send to your friend. He runs this site - http://www.hearing-aid-batteries.org.uk/product/phonak-coloured-ear-hooks/ I get all my stock including battery draws from him. p&p is free within the UK but not sure about aboard.

 

[RisinDragon]

NaidaUP,

I have a feeling what you are explaining regarding the ComPilot, might be my problem. The Loop might be an issue.

I would definitely be surprised if the loop broke so easily, as I am not rough with my gear. But I will look into that. I reconnected the loop and made sure it's all the way in, still nothing works. So it's definitely something I need to have checked.

I would recommend FM only with mics turned off if you are listening to music so you don't get any background noise.

This is what I plan on doing with it, I hate having background noises coming while listening to music. I'd rather have the mic off and it just focus on my music. Besides, I have a big yard and rather listen to music than keep my hearing aids off acting like ear plugs while cutting the grass. As well as working out in a gym, I don't want to hear other people.

As for the Mic On, I'll have the ComPilot set up that way, so I can use software called Teamspeak3 so I can hear myself speak while talking to my friends online.

 

[Jane B.]

I would also recommend getting a spare pair of AS10 battery draws that allow you to use your audio shoes from your audiologist either in silver or black.

The audio shoes last a lot longer the battery draws do. Just means you don't have to order from the Connevans and have a spare pair of audio shoes left.

In my money, each battery draw is £2 so that's about $4 - $5 in your money.
Will be a lot cheaper doing it this way as well

Or if you can't get them from your audiologist, email paulminikin@gmail.com He can order them in for £2 each and post worldwide or he can send to your friend. He runs this site - Phonak Coloured Ear Hooks | HAB I get all my stock including battery draws from him. p&p is free within the UK but not sure about aboard.

"Battery draw" reads like something that draws down the battery to me. The closest I can think of for what you mean is drawer which my dictionary defines as "a sliding box or receptacle in a table, desk, etc."

 

[Jane B.]

As for hearing aid settings would you want the only setting to use with these to cut off all background? Aren't there times when you want music on but also need to know what is going on otherwise as well?

 

[NaidaUP]

"Battery draw" reads like something that draws down the battery to me. The closest I can think of for what you mean is drawer which my dictionary defines as "a sliding box or receptacle in a table, desk, etc."

A battery draw is the bit that you put the battery in. That comes off with a pin and wears away over time. It's called a battery draw!!!!

 

[NaidaUP]

NaidaUP,

I have a feeling what you are explaining regarding the ComPilot, might be my problem. The Loop might be an issue.

I would definitely be surprised if the loop broke so easily, as I am not rough with my gear. But I will look into that. I reconnected the loop and made sure it's all the way in, still nothing works. So it's definitely something I need to have checked.



This is what I plan on doing with it, I hate having background noises coming while listening to music. I'd rather have the mic off and it just focus on my music. Besides, I have a big yard and rather listen to music than keep my hearing aids off acting like ear plugs while cutting the grass. As well as working out in a gym, I don't want to hear other people.

As for the Mic On, I'll have the ComPilot set up that way, so I can use software called Teamspeak3 so I can hear myself speak while talking to my friends online.

Hope you get your ComPilot sorted.

That should be easy then, FM only program with no mics. Make sure you ask for your Audi to select EasyFM button so it means it will change as your music starts. I found it to work well, it changed to the FM program when my music started and changed back when the music stopped.

Also sounds like you are used to it changing on your own as your old HAs, changed to the right 'slot' on its own for the DAI leads to work. EasyFM means you won't have to touch your program buttons all the time and it will be similar to your old HAs.

 

[NaidaUP]

Keep in mind, your audiologist might not have the software to program your aid. Phonak does not give away their programming software. Your audiologist may not be able to afford it, mine couldn't.

Are you aware that you Smartlink will act as a remote control for your Naida? Both the program and volume control? If you want it to work as a remote, get your Audi to select the Smartlink in the Target software and then your Smartlink will work as a remote. Your Audi will paths Target software as that's what it used to program your hearing aid

 

[Jane B.]

A battery draw is the bit that you put the battery in. That comes off with a pin and wears away over time. It's called a battery draw!!!!

You are the only one I have seen use this term. I tried Googling for it, putting it in a couple of different ways, and all I got was about excessive battery drain.

I came across this which may illustrate what you are talking about but has a name that I am familiar with.
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Even though your location is listed as Boston, which I associate with Massachusetts in the USA, I think I remember you saying something about being in the UK. So . . . could this difference in terms be one of the instances where the same thing is called a different thing in different "English" speaking countries?

 

[NaidaUP]

You are the only one I have seen use this term. I tried Googling for it, putting it in a couple of different ways, and all I got was about excessive battery drain.

I came across this which may illustrate what you are talking about but has a name that I am familiar with.
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Even though your location is listed as Boston, which I associate with Massachusetts in the USA, I think I remember you saying something about being in the UK. So . . . could this difference in terms be one of the instances where the same thing is called a different thing in different "English" speaking countries?

You are not understanding it. It's a term for the Phonak Naida hearing aid. It's called the battery draw! You won't find it on google! It's nothing to do with me being in the UK!!

Another saying for it is battery door!! Either one, is fine!!

You are making a big deal out of it!!

You seem to really pick out the small parts in my posts, please stop!!

Picture enclosed showing what it looks like!

 

[Jane B.]

You are not understanding it. It's a term for the Phonak Naida hearing aid. It's called the battery draw! You won't find it on google! It's nothing to do with me being in the UK!!

Another saying for it is battery door!! Either one, is fine!!

You are making a big deal out of it!!

You seem to really pick out the small parts in my posts, please stop!!

Did a little more looking and found a UK site that describes parts of any BTE hearing aid. And sure enough the difference is what term which country uses. My US User Guide calls it the battery compartment while the UK site called it a draw.

 

[RisinDragon]

Ladies!! Chill out!!

There is no need to nit pick every single detail. If I didn't understand, I would have asked for more clarification. But I knew what NaidaUP was talking about all along. No need to make a big issue about what the American and English expressions are. My Grandmother was born in Manchester, England, so I am used to English expressions. Nothing is lost in translation here. :P

As for hearing aid settings would you want the only setting to use with these to cut off all background? Aren't there times when you want music on but also need to know what is going on otherwise as well?

I currently have 5 channels I can play with within my HAs. I'm currently using only 1. I wouldn't care what's going on around me once I listen to music. I want to be in my own "zone" dancing/working out to a beat. While I do listen to music in my Van, I don't use headphones as I need to hear other vehicles around me.

That should be easy then, FM only program with no mics. Make sure you ask for your Audi to select EasyFM button so it means it will change as your music starts. I found it to work well, it changed to the FM program when my music started and changed back when the music stopped.

This is my goal.

Also sounds like you are used to it changing on your own as your old HAs, changed to the right 'slot' on its own for the DAI leads to work. EasyFM means you won't have to touch your program buttons all the time and it will be similar to your old HAs.

Actually my PowerMAXX 411s, I basically connect the Audio Shoes to the Hearing aids and it automatically flips off the microphone once connected. I didn't have to press any buttons. If a family member touched my shoulder, they had to wait til I disconnect the Audio Shoes from my HAs so I can hear them.

 

[NaidaUP]

Actually my PowerMAXX 411s, I basically connect the Audio Shoes to the Hearing aids and it automatically flips off the microphone once connected. I didn't have to press any buttons. If a family member touched my shoulder, they had to wait til I disconnect the Audio Shoes from my HAs so I can hear them.

Sounds like the EasyFM would be better then your old HAs as you only need to stop your music for you to hear someone who wants to speak to you then

If you didn't have the EasyFM selected, it sounds like it would be more hassle for you.

I haven't filled my program slots up either, I don't need too myself. At least you still have room to add the FM program tho.

I have -
Everyday program
Forward facing ZoomControl
T coil
Automatic ZoomControl
Mute

I have another 2 spare slots.

 

[seb]

Did a little more looking and found a UK site that describes parts of any BTE hearing aid. And sure enough the difference is what term which country uses. My US User Guide calls it the battery compartment while the UK site called it a draw.

Thanks for the clarification. Perhaps you should of done the search before bringing all this up in the first place. I was born and raised in the US as were my parents and I new what Naida was talking about.

 

[seb]

In the beginning of June I got new Naidas Q50 UPs. :P After that time I had a friend of mine in England order Direct Audio Input Boots for them from Connevans.

I finally got them when we met up in Oregon for the weekend.

I followed the directions and what not. But I got a problem. I can't seem to get it to work. What am I missing? Does my hearing aids needs to be programmed to use this?

When I had my old PowerMAXX 411s, it was basically, plug and play.

These new ones I can't seem to get to work. The hearing aids are working well with the new battery adapter, but I just can't seem to get it to work via the 3.5mm headphone jack.

NaidaUPs,
I know you said you have these. I hope you can give me some suggestions or an idea of what I need to get them to work. I spent $100 to get them and now I need to troubleshoot them.

I seem to remember reading somewhere that the Phonak audio boots are different from Europe and won't work in North America and visa versa. I can't remember where I read it and can't seem to find it, but I will keep looking.