My hubby's experience with CI users at Spa

[Liebling:-)))]

The discrimination was not against the oral CI and HA users. There was an oral interpreter provided for them.. The discrimination was against the signing CI and HA users, as well as the unassisted signers. There was no terp, or other accommodations made for them, despite being represented as a spa for the hearing impaired.

Exactly! They should drop "hearing impaired" when there´re for oral only.

 

[Angel]

I agreed Liebling, when my sisters and I went to Star Cinema movie theater in Coucial Buff, Iowa, there was a sign that stated " devices for hearing impaired ", boy Cheri and I were soo excited to find out that this movie theater had closed-captions, before we paid for our ticket we asked the ticket seller about the sign for hearing impaired and asked her if all of the movies had closed captions, the ticket seller looked confused and said " no theres no closed-captions here, it's listening device head phones that you placed over your ears so you could hear the movie clearly" and she walked over and pick them up and showed them to us, Cheri and I looked at each others and thinking how the heck are we suppose to hear out of these head phones when we can't even hear music clearly or words from the music, there was just no way we could hear out of these head phones, we told the ticket seller that we are deaf not hard of hearing...The sign should have been stated "listening head phones for hearing loss " instead of "devices for the hearing impaired"....

 

[Liebling:-)))]

What was the reason your husband was going to a Spa?

He got facial paralysis on his left face and heart rhythmus at 3 years ago. It´s cured - thank therapy for facial execrise to improve paralysis to end... and also heart rhythmus as well.. They send him to Spa in Bad Grönenberg for the hearing impaired for 4 weeks at 3 years ago. After that he can go Spa every 3 to 4 years. This is his 2nd spa in Bosenberg last month but he was very disappointed that there´re no signing members and interpreters around.

Aren't CI and HoH hearing impaired?
as for the "for hearing-impaired" - how it is misadverstised if CI and HoH ARE hearing impaired.

And anyway many deaf people in our earlier discussion were adamant about NOT being "hearing impaired",
Jillio herself was "suprised" I call myself hearing -impaired. You too, Liebling, remember?

Fuzzy

Well, we know what hearing impaired is about. The president for the Deaf convinced us that it is silly to write CI, HOH, late deafened ... to label on DVD, school, spa.... which is too long... CI, HOH, late deafend, etc would feel left out if they add "deaf" only on DVD or whatever which is not right... That´s why we use "hearing impaired" for public in manner way etc. (DVD, school, spa, etc) then we will know it´s all for deaf, CI, HOH, late deaf, etc. before we buy or apply. I answer someone´s question what kind of hearing impaired I am because I am not amshamed to admit what kind of hearing loss I am.

Yes I was surprised when few ADers mentioned that they are hearing impaired to hide what really they are last year. After that I questioned at German forum and also friends in real life as well that they would consider themselves as hearing impaired. Many Germans are puzzled and said that they are not amshamed to admit what kind of hearing loss they have. Use "hearing impaired" for public is understandable and different story... No wonder why Jillo was surprised because she know hearing impaired is label for public only, not label people as hearing impaired or people consider themselves hearing impaired to hide what they really are. Your last post got me wondering why you consider yourself as hearing impaired at other thread. All what you answered that it´s your wish to consider yourself as hearing impaired and don´t want us know what kind of hearing loss you have.

I can understand that hearing people use those word "hearing impaired" in manner and formal way but they weren´t realized how hearing loss people feel about those word. Example about "handicapped", deaf & mute, etc . I would not like that I am being treat as handicapped because I consider myself as normal person. The people should correct hearing people in polite way that they rather to consider themselves as deaf, CI, HOH or whatever.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

Just want you to clarify. I read this that you think because a HA or CI user doesn't sign they're snobby and denying who they are?

Gee thanks alot.

It´s CI and HA users at Spa in Bosenberg, I referred to, not you.

We have no problem with CI or HA users who can´t sign and show their respect on us and learn to communicate with us instead of "belittle" us.

We have many CI or HA users who can sign and exposed both world... CI. My hubby was shock to know that HA and CI users can´t sign was being exposed at hearing world and treat deaf like stupidity... negative something...like that... We have the right to say something what I thought about them after got the description from my hubby.

My hubby met few CI and HA users who tried to communicate with him but only up to 10 minutes then go back to their own group... It won´t hurt to admit what really they are... something like that... "Yes I born deaf" but they denied they are deaf... I am sorry if you don´t like those word "snobby" but you are not in my hubby´s shoes.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I agreed Liebling, when my sisters and I went to Star Cinema movie theater in Coucial Buff, Iowa, there was a sign that stated " devices for hearing impaired ", boy Cheri and I were soo excited to find out that this movie theater had closed-captions, before we paid for our ticket we asked the ticket seller about the sign for hearing impaired and asked her if all of the movies had closed captions, the ticket seller looked confused and said " no theres no closed-captions here, it's listening device head phones that you placed over your ears so you could hear the movie clearly" and she walked over and pick them up and showed them to us, Cheri and I looked at each others and thinking how the heck are we suppose to hear out of these head phones when we can't even hear music clearly or words from the music, there was just no way we could hear out of these head phones, we told the ticket seller that we are deaf not hard of hearing...The sign should have been stated "listening head phones for hearing loss " instead of "devices for the hearing impaired"....

*sigh* I know how you and Cheri feeling when you saw those word "hearing impaired" and got excited that there´re CC on that movies... They should not label hearing impaired when there´re no CC... Yes, they should label "head phones for hearing loss"... I would demand the refund when I were you because those word "hearing impaired" lead us beleive that there´re CC...

 

[Audiofuzzy]

Well, we know what hearing impaired is about. The president for the Deaf convinced us that it is silly to write CI, HOH, late deafened ... to label on DVD, school, spa.... which is too long... CI, HOH, late deafend, etc would feel left out if they add "deaf" only on DVD or whatever which is not right... That´s why we use "hearing impaired" for public in manner way etc. (DVD, school, spa, etc) then we will know it´s all for deaf, CI, HOH, late deaf, etc.

Oh I see, so the company wasn't wrong posting "hearing impaired" after all.

They just didn't provide services for ALL hearing impaired - the deaf. That's bad.


I am sorry about your husband's health problems. I hope he will get better.

Fuzzy

 

[jillio]

And like you said some people aren'st bothered by the term hearing impaired. It also does not bother me to refer to my daughter with Down syndrome as having mental retardation. Now if someone called her a retard that is different.

Hearing impaired does discribe my hearing state, so does deaf, hoh and so on. As long as words are used in correct context (see above use of mental retardation vs retard) the words are harmless. IMO one needs to worry more about if they words are used in a nasty way. I concider calling a person with MR trainable (as they once did) more offencive then saying someone is hearing impaired.

As you stated it's actually a personal view.

It is the difference between the medicalized view and the cultural linguistic point of view. One is focused on pathology and the need for medical intervention to correct, the other is strengths based and more holistic.