my first experience dating a Deaf person...

VirgoHearie

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i am happy to have found this site and this particular forum especially. finally i don't feel so alone.

a bit about me: i've always been passionate about different cultures and languages, and am a native speaker of spanish. after teaching for 10 years in public school, i decided to change careers. i was inspired to turn to learning ASL, remembering how long i've wanted to become fluent. i started formal ASL study last year and want to work as an interpreter and advocate in the Deaf Community.

now, what brought me here: this is about my wonderful, yet, brief, first experience dating a Deaf man. we ended recently after only 3 months. it's been only a few weeks but i can't stop thinking about him and hoping he'll let me in and i keep hoping he'll show at my door step and the hurt runs deep. i still do believe in the love we started to share. but the hope is killing me too.

i met him in january this year. i wasn't looking to meet anyone romantically. just out at a Deaf social. anyway, our love grew fast and deep.

in hindsight (being 20/20), i realize i had fallen for a man that had been separated from a 3 year relat. since july 07 and in the middle of divorce. yes, we went fast emotionally. yes, i see how i set myself up choosing someone in the middle of divorce. i thought he had processed it more thoroughly. i think now that was more hopeful thinking on my part, denial even.

i had been swayed with our passionate connection, thinking it could carry us thru. we shared many "firsts" together. it was wonderful, fun, intense... but after this initial "honeymoon", reality started to hit hard. the more our love grew, the more he pulled away. until he was hardly around. his friends noticed a difference too. he told me he was depressed. he had a lot of stress besides the divorce. i believe being around me started becoming difficult for him because that meant he would have to "feel" and he wasn't ready for that or didn't know how to cope with the feelings of grief he still clearly had to face. he was served with divorce papers the week before valentine's day. he was struggling still with the divorce, blaming himself, not understanding... the word 'marriage' for him was ugly, understandably.

and, in contrast, on my end, i'm thinking, at the age of 44, i had finally met a man i could envision a life and family with. i loved the emotional bond we shared. love-making was the most amazing. and i loved sharing this new language and culture i was learning about. i was thrilled and so happy!

but. the more he pulled away, the more i gave my patience, trust & faith. i gave him the space and time he asked for. i came to accept canceled plans. we went from seeing each other regularly to, if i was lucky, once a week on a work night. it was three months since i had met him. i struggled with the classic questions of how long to stick it out; is he with another; how long is enough...etc. we communicated and he reassured me time and time again there was no one else. it was depression. and he didn't want me to be around that bad mean side of him. i reassured him i could take care of myself. to give me a chance to love all of him.

the last month was so painful for me. i was crying more and more. and since "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger" i was reluctantly becoming fiercely strong. then one friday he canceled plans again because he felt depressed, he said. this time i said, "nope, i'm coming up. if you were only my friend i would do the same." he threatened to end us if i went up. i told him, "go ahead, i'll sacrifice my lover to be a friend." a few hours later i arrived. we made that eye contact that melts away our tensions. we smiled. we pretend fist-fought. he teased about my defiance. we actually had a sweet evening. but that night i needed for him to tell me he wanted me to stay the night. i asked him twice, "you want me to stay tonight where?" he said he wanted me to do what i felt comfortable with. so i left. (that was so hard to do. i'm trying to change habits of behavior that have not served me well in the past.)

but the distance continued. for the first time, i didn't hear from him for days. i got so angry i started packing his things that were at my place. and a week later, i decided to go to his place to get my things and deliver his. my entire body was literally shaking as i cried explaining that "this was not a relationship because we had stopped relating." we both cried. this was all very new behavior for me. my habit would have had me stay longer until the pain became unbearable. i've written him since several times offering supportive book titles and loving words. i was scared i made the wrong decision. and writing now, helps me see even more clearly and feel better about my action.

i'm grateful for our intensity because it helped us get to the ending faster. i don't believe had we slowed down that it would have helped. i believe it would only have prolonged my agony. i'd rather pull of a bandaid fast and get it overwith, rather then take my time peeling it off bit by bit.

so all this brings me to some observations as to why this ending after only 3 months has had such an impact and continues to be so painful: 1. he was my first experience with a Deaf person; 2. he was the first person i could see having a child with; 3. when i'm ready again, i can only see myself and only want to date a Deaf person.

does this make sense???
 
Hi!

Yes your post makes sense. :) I'm not sure how we can help you, though. I'm glad you had such a terrific beginning in your first relationship with a Deaf man. I'm sorry he wasn't...mature enough, or ready enough to treat you as you should be treated. I guess my only advice is, just keep on truckin'. Keep going to the Deaf socials, just have fun. :) One day you'll find him.
 
i am happy to have found this site and this particular forum especially. finally i don't feel so alone.

a bit about me: i've always been passionate about different cultures and languages, and am a native speaker of spanish. after teaching for 10 years in public school, i decided to change careers. i was inspired to turn to learning ASL, remembering how long i've wanted to become fluent. i started formal ASL study last year and want to work as an interpreter and advocate in the Deaf Community.

now, what brought me here: this is about my wonderful, yet, brief, first experience dating a Deaf man. we ended recently after only 3 months. it's been only a few weeks but i can't stop thinking about him and hoping he'll let me in and i keep hoping he'll show at my door step and the hurt runs deep. i still do believe in the love we started to share. but the hope is killing me too.

i met him in january this year. i wasn't looking to meet anyone romantically. just out at a Deaf social. anyway, our love grew fast and deep.

in hindsight (being 20/20), i realize i had fallen for a man that had been separated from a 3 year relat. since july 07 and in the middle of divorce. yes, we went fast emotionally. yes, i see how i set myself up choosing someone in the middle of divorce. i thought he had processed it more thoroughly. i think now that was more hopeful thinking on my part, denial even.

i had been swayed with our passionate connection, thinking it could carry us thru. we shared many "firsts" together. it was wonderful, fun, intense... but after this initial "honeymoon", reality started to hit hard. the more our love grew, the more he pulled away. until he was hardly around. his friends noticed a difference too. he told me he was depressed. he had a lot of stress besides the divorce. i believe being around me started becoming difficult for him because that meant he would have to "feel" and he wasn't ready for that or didn't know how to cope with the feelings of grief he still clearly had to face. he was served with divorce papers the week before valentine's day. he was struggling still with the divorce, blaming himself, not understanding... the word 'marriage' for him was ugly, understandably.

and, in contrast, on my end, i'm thinking, at the age of 44, i had finally met a man i could envision a life and family with. i loved the emotional bond we shared. love-making was the most amazing. and i loved sharing this new language and culture i was learning about. i was thrilled and so happy!

but. the more he pulled away, the more i gave my patience, trust & faith. i gave him the space and time he asked for. i came to accept canceled plans. we went from seeing each other regularly to, if i was lucky, once a week on a work night. it was three months since i had met him. i struggled with the classic questions of how long to stick it out; is he with another; how long is enough...etc. we communicated and he reassured me time and time again there was no one else. it was depression. and he didn't want me to be around that bad mean side of him. i reassured him i could take care of myself. to give me a chance to love all of him.

the last month was so painful for me. i was crying more and more. and since "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger" i was reluctantly becoming fiercely strong. then one friday he canceled plans again because he felt depressed, he said. this time i said, "nope, i'm coming up. if you were only my friend i would do the same." he threatened to end us if i went up. i told him, "go ahead, i'll sacrifice my lover to be a friend." a few hours later i arrived. we made that eye contact that melts away our tensions. we smiled. we pretend fist-fought. he teased about my defiance. we actually had a sweet evening. but that night i needed for him to tell me he wanted me to stay the night. i asked him twice, "you want me to stay tonight where?" he said he wanted me to do what i felt comfortable with. so i left. (that was so hard to do. i'm trying to change habits of behavior that have not served me well in the past.)

but the distance continued. for the first time, i didn't hear from him for days. i got so angry i started packing his things that were at my place. and a week later, i decided to go to his place to get my things and deliver his. my entire body was literally shaking as i cried explaining that "this was not a relationship because we had stopped relating." we both cried. this was all very new behavior for me. my habit would have had me stay longer until the pain became unbearable. i've written him since several times offering supportive book titles and loving words. i was scared i made the wrong decision. and writing now, helps me see even more clearly and feel better about my action.

i'm grateful for our intensity because it helped us get to the ending faster. i don't believe had we slowed down that it would have helped. i believe it would only have prolonged my agony. i'd rather pull of a bandaid fast and get it overwith, rather then take my time peeling it off bit by bit.

so all this brings me to some observations as to why this ending after only 3 months has had such an impact and continues to be so painful: 1. he was my first experience with a Deaf person; 2. he was the first person i could see having a child with; 3. when i'm ready again, i can only see myself and only want to date a Deaf person.

does this make sense???
r u hearing if so why date deaf man ??? just curiuos but anyway keep trying and good luck
 
Hi!

Yes your post makes sense. :) I'm not sure how we can help you, though. I'm glad you had such a terrific beginning in your first relationship with a Deaf man. I'm sorry he wasn't...mature enough, or ready enough to treat you as you should be treated. I guess my only advice is, just keep on truckin'. Keep going to the Deaf socials, just have fun. :) One day you'll find him.

I would have to agree with Dragon, he speaks wisdom. Still, it is good that you were able to talk about it. That helps the perspective. It doesn't always make the pain go away, and there is no time limit on that. You can draw strength from others until you are strong again, and be thankful,,, cuz you will find him. The good news is that now you know what you are lookin for. Good luck.
 
why date a Deaf man?

r u hearing if so why date deaf man ??? just curiuos but anyway keep trying and good luck

yes. i'm hearing. hence the name 'VirgoHearie.' :cool2:

why date a Deaf man?

why not?

we met. connected. and the rest is in my original post.

what i was confused about (for lack of a better word) was how my desire now to date a Deaf man has become so strong. i love the ASL language and i appreciate many aspects of the Deaf community. maybe part of this attraction to dating a Deaf man stems from my recent "almost unrequited" love.

i wondered if it was "wrong," somehow. i know with other cultures some people prefer to date within their own culture. and if anyone outside that culture comes via dating, sometimes they aren't welcomed. my experience so far with the Deaf community is that it is different in that it is more welcoming of "hearies."

thru this forum and my writing i've come to the conclusion that my new found desire is fine. i see this as similar to someone who is attracted to people of any other particular culture.

what are other people's perspectives on this?

thank you.
 
I would have to agree with Dragon, he speaks wisdom. Still, it is good that you were able to talk about it. That helps the perspective. It doesn't always make the pain go away, and there is no time limit on that. You can draw strength from others until you are strong again, and be thankful,,, cuz you will find him. The good news is that now you know what you are lookin for. Good luck.

thank you dragon and dreamchaser. your responses felt very supportive. :wiggle:
 
virgohearie i wish you good luck learning sign language and continue the relationship with your man smile
 
Sometimes it suck to be a deaf man to lose interest with a hearing gal, who is very motivated with deaf culture/ASL/among others.

His world's biggest loss.

There are so plenty of awesome, single deaf male in your area. Perhaps you could go to deaf clubs/deaf professional happy hour/among others, and you probably eyeing a better deaf person. :cool:
 
intimacy with a Deaf man

Hi.

The following is in response to an email asking about my attraction to Deaf men.

I've dated one Deaf man just recently. I am learning ASL; have been studying it formally now for over a year in college. Before that I took an ASL workshop at a community center.

You asked specifically what attracts me to Deaf men. I love the ASL language and I appreciate the sensitivity that I think Deaf men seem to have. Of course, all I know is from my one experience. Nevertheless, the connection we shared, was wonderful and different from any I've experienced with a hearing man. The intimacy felt more genuine, more profound. The way we related using sign made me feel a stronger connection. That connection is very important to me. Unlike a hearing-hearing relationship, we had to focus on each other more, make eye contact consistently, consciously "be" & relate in each other's space.... these are all things that a hearing-hearing relationship can too often take for granted...
Also, in general, I am attracted to people from backgrounds different from the mainstream here in the U.S. There are certain cultures and languages that appeal to me, including the Deaf culture. For example, I am Latina, from Colombia. I am attracted to Latin men & enjoy sharing our culture and language. I am also attracted to the African-American culture, Indian culture, both Native and East Indian. I was recently was exposed to the Armenian & Persian cultures and languages and find them beautiful as well.

It's hard to define what it is that makes someone feel attraction.... I love different cultures and languages. I learned Spanish as my first language, then English. Later I studied French. And now American Sign. I love learning & experiencing different ways of thinking, expressing myself, etc.

Thanks for writing.

Be well,
M
 
im also deaf woman

im been dating previous boyfriend years ago and they finally i found man of our lifes when i met Royals Forums where i was member and he also member too but he hearing but he learn sign languages from his deaf friends who taught my boyfriend.

but im still current dating with british boyfriend his name James Windsor but he and me been e-mail everyday but he always so busy at work lots!
 
aloha, Virgo.. keep going on and dont give up..Heart is only way where you will feel in the time that you will know. Feeling isnt playin' games but true, feelings have input of everything where you can give n impact.

Culture is very common in each of perferences for us (people) in this world. We are allow to know to be curious what's in the store for us, again, culture is most amazing thing for us to learn about.

I bid you with wishes of the best lucks for your future.

peace out from NorCal-
 
I find is very interest on most detail on female's side story by dating deaf male. No further question. Thank for share.

I had my first interest dating only hearing until I realize being with deaf make great communicate and best team. Unfortunately, she isn't for me. I leave open-wide to both deaf and hearing with ASL, is a plus. Unfortunately, there are few deaf without ASL.
 
Sounds like you had a whirlwind romance there with that guy, and he was being flaky. Or too cowardly to be honest with you.
Ofc, you are not alone and welcome here to share your experiences and to read about our experiences.

I was married to a hearing guy, but it didn't work out once we got through that honeymoon stage. I felt we had little connection, aside from sex. We didn't communicate our ideas with each other well. That didn't make for a very fulfilling relationship for me, and I was in denial about that until last year. While I'm not ready to jump into another relationship yet, my ideal partner would be deaf as well as being a great communicator... and not being from the nuthouse. I am keeping an open mind about hearing partners, but they gotta fulfill my high standards too. :)
 
He may be afraid that you would divorce him too because you are hearing and he is deaf. that he would become a burdensome to you and he just doesn't want another heartbreak.
 
VirgoHearie, All of those things would most likely occur regardless of the persons hearing capabilities. My personal opinion for what it's worth is that many of the problems stemmed from dating a person that is going through a divorce. Its the old rebound relationship story over and over again. I didn't get anything from your story that would draw you to date deafies exclusivly other than your desire to teach and be exposed to the culture. Don't limit your options. There are wonderful people in deaf and hearing culture. In any event I wish you the best of luck in finding someone for yourself. Just be careful and guard your heart until you know for sure.
 
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