My boyfriend is becoming Deaf

I have been exposed to oral Deaf, and they prefer to sign. They feel, like shel90 that their life is more open because of ASL. Negative aspects, i have not been exposed to. All Deaf that i have met have been gracious and kind. Although i know there are those out there, i have not met them. But that is true of every culture not exclusive to the Deaf community. I'm a big boy, and so is my boyfriend and we can handle such things easily. As for all the facts, when i met my best friend i had never met a Deaf person before. I don't like to be ignorant on things, so i researched everything i could. That is how i found this site. I have read an awful lot on CI and in my humble opinion i don't like them. Too many negatives out way the positives.

I DO NOT SUPPORT IMPLANTING CHILDREN!! you are trying to make this baby into something you want them to be, ie hearing, rather than what they are, DEAF. If when they get older that is what they want then by all means do it but i think it should be left up to the individual rather than the all mighty parent. If my parents knew when i was a baby that i am g a y and wanted to do something to make me not, i would not be the person i am today.

If no more that environmental sounds..... What does that mean to a hearing person? All you can hear is the wind blow a bird chirp and a car.... a hearing person is used to far more than that. AND most environmental sounds i do not like, most hearies that live in any city of size is the same, you are reduced to the worst sounds, and you got your head cut open for that?? No thanks. I told him i am against CI but if that is what he wants then i would of course support him absolutely.

As far as being accepted, i have been accepted totally. Many Deaf have told me that i am more like a Deafie than a hearie. I do not have the fingers to count how many times Deafies have mistaken me for Deaf and this after hanging out with them for hours. And my Deaf friends have already accepted him. Maybe i have exceptional friends. If i were to run across a small minded Deafie then oh well, i run across small minded hearing people all the time and the Deaf person will get the same response as the small minded Hearing so i really don't see what the problem is.

Maybe you have had a lot of bad experiences, super. I haven't. I love my friends and the Deaf community as a whole. I see the culture as nothing to fear, but maybe i am exceptional too.

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I have the same kind of experiences as u do with the Deaf community and culture. NOBODY is perfect in all cultures.

Yea, true about the concept of trying to change gay babies into straight babies. I have know people who r gay try to be someone other than their true selves for the sake of their families espcially their parents and they grow up depressed or angry. Same goes for deaf people if they don't feel like they really fit in fully with hearing people.
 
This made me think of something else. I am disappointed that some deaf people talk negative things. I do not know how to make them out of it. I have never seen them talking about their hobby. Isn't that something?

I believe that deaf people often close their mind than hearing's mind. It seems that they are afraid to expose something if they think that it is their privacy. It is not related sex or affair issue. What you think about that?

I need your opinion, please. Thanks.
 
I have been exposed to oral Deaf, and they prefer to sign. They feel, like shel90 that their life is more open because of ASL. Negative aspects, i have not been exposed to. All Deaf that i have met have been gracious and kind. Although i know there are those out there, i have not met them. But that is true of every culture not exclusive to the Deaf community. I'm a big boy, and so is my boyfriend and we can handle such things easily. As for all the facts, when i met my best friend i had never met a Deaf person before. I don't like to be ignorant on things, so i researched everything i could. That is how i found this site. I have read an awful lot on CI and in my humble opinion i don't like them. Too many negatives out way the positives.

I DO NOT SUPPORT IMPLANTING CHILDREN!! you are trying to make this baby into something you want them to be, ie hearing, rather than what they are, DEAF. If when they get older that is what they want then by all means do it but i think it should be left up to the individual rather than the all mighty parent. If my parents knew when i was a baby that i am g a y and wanted to do something to make me not, i would not be the person i am today.

If no more that environmental sounds..... What does that mean to a hearing person? All you can hear is the wind blow a bird chirp and a car.... a hearing person is used to far more than that. AND most environmental sounds i do not like, most hearies that live in any city of size is the same, you are reduced to the worst sounds, and you got your head cut open for that?? No thanks. I told him i am against CI but if that is what he wants then i would of course support him absolutely.

As far as being accepted, i have been accepted totally. Many Deaf have told me that i am more like a Deafie than a hearie. I do not have the fingers to count how many times Deafies have mistaken me for Deaf and this after hanging out with them for hours. And my Deaf friends have already accepted him. Maybe i have exceptional friends. If i were to run across a small minded Deafie then oh well, i run across small minded hearing people all the time and the Deaf person will get the same response as the small minded Hearing so i really don't see what the problem is.

Maybe you have had a lot of bad experiences, super. I haven't. I love my friends and the Deaf community as a whole. I see the culture as nothing to fear, but maybe i am exceptional too.

:gpost: !! You and jillio are the most excellent hearing people on this message board!! Because of that you both have came a long way keeping an open mind on the deaf community and have so much knowledge of the deaf, I'm impressed! ;)
 
That story reminded me of my college buddy, which is Veronica's boyfriend Cory.

I was at the cafeteria eating lunch last January or February 2007 when I saw Cory walking past me. I called out to him "Hey Cory!" Normally he'd turn his head and say, "Hey Ben!" every time I call him. What's weird is that this time he didn't turn his head. I was like "Huh? Is he ignoring me or what?" I yelled out again, and he still didn't answer. I had to get up and walk to him to say hey. He finally noticed me and said "Hey Ben!" Later that night, I asked his gf Veronica what's going on, and she told me that Cory lost his hearing on the right ear completely due to some guy from his hometown knocking Cory on the ear with his elbow, resulting in Cory's right ear popping. She said that it's purely accidental.

I was like yikes. Cory and Veronica have been together since 2004. Cory still can talk and hear with his left ear. Veronica stayed close to him anyway.

I joked about Cory being deaf someday like myself and that if he ever does, I'd have to teach him signs. Both Cory and Veronica laughed and said "Probably so."
 
That story reminded me of my college buddy, which is Veronica's boyfriend Cory.

I was at the cafeteria eating lunch last January or February 2007 when I saw Cory walking past me. I called out to him "Hey Cory!" Normally he'd turn his head and say, "Hey Ben!" every time I call him. What's weird is that this time he didn't turn his head. I was like "Huh? Is he ignoring me or what?" I yelled out again, and he still didn't answer. I had to get up and walk to him to say hey. He finally noticed me and said "Hey Ben!" Later that night, I asked his gf Veronica what's going on, and she told me that Cory lost his hearing on the right ear completely due to some guy from his hometown knocking Cory on the ear with his elbow, resulting in Cory's right ear popping. She said that it's purely accidental.

I was like yikes. Cory and Veronica have been together since 2004. Cory still can talk and hear with his left ear. Veronica stayed close to him anyway.

I joked about Cory being deaf someday like myself and that if he ever does, I'd have to teach him signs. Both Cory and Veronica laughed and said "Probably so."

That must have sucked for Corey. If a person loses hearing in one hear, does it make a huge difference? Just curious.
 
Yes and no. Kinda like being blind in one eye throws your depth perception off. We hear best in stereo, from 2 directions. Just one and it throws everything off. Harder to determine the direction sound is coming from. You don't hear as richly with just one ear. At the same time the one ear becomes more sensitive to every little sound. Does with me anyway when I sleep at night I lay on one side blocks one ear the other ear hears better. But sound on that side, can't hear it. It must be loud enough to go to the other ear on other side of your head. Kinda like driving in a car if people on both sides of the car are looking out oposite windows and telling the driver what they see. Now if there is only one person on the right side they can only tell the driver what is happening on the right side of the car, not the left.
 
Yes and no. Kinda like being blind in one eye throws your depth perception off. We hear best in stereo, from 2 directions. Just one and it throws everything off. Harder to determine the direction sound is coming from. You don't hear as richly with just one ear. At the same time the one ear becomes more sensitive to every little sound. Does with me anyway when I sleep at night I lay on one side blocks one ear the other ear hears better. But sound on that side, can't hear it. It must be loud enough to go to the other ear on other side of your head. Kinda like driving in a car if people on both sides of the car are looking out oposite windows and telling the driver what they see. Now if there is only one person on the right side they can only tell the driver what is happening on the right side of the car, not the left.


That is exactly what it is like for me and i am losing whats left in my right ear since I am deaf in my left ear. If you walk up behind me I will automatically turn to my right side even though you may be speaking to me from my left side. People often give me funny looks when this happens and I often have to explain this to people more times than I care but I try to be nice about it even though it does get old quite rapidly.

Even though I can hear voices around me, I often cannot make out individual words. If you want to talk to me you need to look at me so I can at least read your lips. If you stand on my left side and try to talk to me, forget it I absolutely cannot hear you or make out what you are saying. People think Im a bit goofy when I do this but its nothing that can be changed and I often tell people I dont' like the idea of the CI because it requires a stranger drilling a hole in my head.

But if I go deaf so be it, there are plenty of sounds I won't miss, and there are sounds I will miss (like the sound of my daughter's voice).:ty:
 
southern, i dont mean to disect your post, but i see alot of things you said that i dont agree with, and i'll state why....


I have been exposed to oral Deaf, and they prefer to sign.

that is quite a broad sentence. I have expierenced children who grew up oral and have decided to sign later in life, my girlfriend is a good example. However, you completely missed my point, in which there are oral deaf who prefer NOT to sign. they have been exposed to sign language and for whatever reason, do not wish to use it in their daily life.

All Deaf that i have met have been gracious and kind. Although i know there are those out there, i have not met them. But that is true of every culture not exclusive to the Deaf community.

i did not mean to imply that deaf culture was anything opposite what you stated above. But there is a very real fact that Deaf culture can be very exclusive, and not very inclusive....and you are absolutly right, several other cultures are the same way, however, we are not talking about those cultures here. we are talking about someone who will be post-lingually deaf, who is not a native signer. he will never be accepted anymore than a hearing person would.

DO NOT SUPPORT IMPLANTING CHILDREN!! you are trying to make this baby into something you want them to be, ie hearing, rather than what they are, DEAF.

this is just simply not true. If i child is born and can't ever learn to walk, is it wrong to put them in a wheelchair, or are we just trying to make them like us? if a child is born without a limb, is it wrong to use a preostetic? afterall, wouldn't we be trying to make them something they are not? of course not, and implants are no different. your personal opinion is absolutly valid, i feel however you are very close minded on this subject.

If no more that environmental sounds..... What does that mean to a hearing person? All you can hear is the wind blow a bird chirp and a car.... a hearing person is used to far more than that. AND most environmental sounds i do not like, most hearies that live in any city of size is the same, you are reduced to the worst sounds, and you got your head cut open for that?? No thanks.

environmental sounds are much more than what you stated here. they are your child screming when he gets his fingers slammed in the car door, its an ambulance coming up behind your car when you not getting out of the way can mean life or death for someone else. Its when you change lanes and miss someone in the next lane, only because they honked to let you know that you were going to hit them. Its being able to hear your door knock when otherwise you might have missed the flashing light. Its hearing a train coming up behind you as your walking down the track texting on your mobile phone.
most environmental sound you do not like, but they save your life everyday. they enrich your life and make you more appreciative of the world around you, and more aware of it.
each one of these instances i stated happend to people ....a deaf man came and spoke at the deaf school i work at, he had bilateral CI's implanted because he slamemd his childs finger in the door of his car, and did not know that his child was screaming bloody murder until his neighbors came out and told him. Miss deaf texas was killed as she walked along side a railroad track texting on her phone and did not hear a train coming up behind her, honking his horn.


As far as being accepted, i have been accepted totally. Many Deaf have told me that i am more like a Deafie than a hearie. I do not have the fingers to count how many times Deafies have mistaken me for Deaf and this after hanging out with them for hours.

you've been totally accepted as a hearing person. You have not been accepted as a deaf person, and you never will be...your not. i guess the only way i can explain this, is possibly using a gay reference. You have straight friends, and they get along with your gay friends, your gay friends may accept them totally and be cool with them, love hanging out with them etc...however, your straight friends dont know what its like to have to come out to thier parents, or deal with the social stigmas of being gay, or the discrimination, or the taunting in school perhaps, or even abuse recieved.....all the shared expierences that bonds the gay community together, straight people will never and can never understand? would you agree?
i would even dare to say that the gay community's views on closet homosexuality would be comparable to Deaf community's views on deaf who prefer hearing world.
i have had bad expierences, but i have had good ones too. Deaf community is one that i have chosen, despite how it may look here, i simply present the flip side of the coin. its not all shiny happyness with puppy dogs and rainbows, but nothing is that way.
Socializing, working, living with Deaf is where i belong, they are my people. I dont fit well in hearing culture, i can navigate it fine, as it's how i was born. but thats not where i feel comfortable, and not where i want to be.
 
Many deaf people talk a lot for many hours than hearing people do at some meetings and parties. Isn't that irony?

I have a deaf woman who never stop talking. We visited at my friend's house. She talked too much until 2 a.m. I fall asleep. I was stuck that her car block my car in his driveway. I didn't want to see her again. It is impossible for me to stop her talking. Yawn.
 
Many deaf people talk a lot for many hours than hearing people do at some meetings and parties. Isn't that irony?

I have a deaf woman who never stop talking. We visited at my friend's house. She talked too much until 2 a.m. I fall asleep. I was stuck that her car block my car in his driveway. I didn't want to see her again. It is impossible for me to stop her talking. Yawn.

Yea, it does happen here too at deaf socials at public places. Deaf people are usually are the ones left hanging around after the establishment has closed for the night. Maybe it is cuz many of us are not around signing in our daily lives and at socials, we seem to want to catch up.

I admit that some times, I will chat forever especially with someone who I havent seen in a while.
 
When I first saw this thread, I thought "Oh, boy. Something I can really comment on." Now, given all the ground that's been covered and emotions stirred, I'm not so sure. I'll give it a whirl anyway.

I am fortunate in that (like Souther's boyfriend) I have spent time on both sides of the fence. I am in my early 40's, and have only been totally deaf for about 2 months. My hearing degraded gradually but rapidly for the preceeding four months due to some wicked antibiotics. Going deaf has taught me many things, which I never could have appreciated before. For example, I never realized how much hearing people already speechread without knowing it. Try mouthing the words and using normal hand gestures sometime - hearing friends will be surprised that they can follow your conversation.

When a hearing person loses his/her ability to hear, they WILL miss out on some things they have come to enjoy or rely on: music, children laughing, the sound of a lover's voice, a doorbell, the telephone. There are ways to compensate for the lack of sound (doorbell lights, relay services, etc), but it will never be as easy or effective as what they grew up with. Hearing aids may help for a while, but eventually there's nothing getting in. In the short time that I've been deaf, I've had an ambulance right behind me twice, and had no clue. Just tonight, I learned that driving a car with a stick shift is a whole new experience, because I had relied on the sound of the engine to know when to shift. I'm still discovering all the subtle ways that I used my hearing.

The news isn't all bad, though. I've learned to be more accepting of others, for example. If someone gets on the elevator just to go down one floor, maybe they're not lazy, but have hip trouble which is no more visible than my deafness. I've learned that the nature of most people is to be helpful, as long as you have a good attitude. If I'm talking with someone who turns away while speaking, and I simply say "I'm sorry, but I can't hear and need to read your lips." most will make eye contact and speak very distinctly, or write down the key words for me. I never could have appreciated these things without being deaf, even if I had lots of deaf friends.

I'll stay out of the CI and sign debate for now, though I will say that I think every deaf person needs to decide what is right for themselves. The most important thing for me has been to keep a positive attitude. Yeah, I'm deaf and walk like I'm drunk most of the time (lost my balance too), but I like it a whole lot better on the green side of the grass.
 
When I was driving on the road, a few drivers turned up the music volume so loudly. They will definitely learn their lesson in a few months or a year. If many hearing people lose their hearing due loud music, it would be nice for us to have a less barrel and more flexable in our life. We should let them turning up the music. Many interpreters will be glad to be in the service for them on the relay or interpreting in school or business.
 
When I was driving on the road, a few drivers turned up the music volume so loudly. They will definitely learn their lesson in a few months or a year. If many hearing people lose their hearing due loud music, it would be nice for us to have a less barrel and more flexable in our life. We should let them turning up the music. Many interpreters will be glad to be in the service for them on the relay or interpreting in school or business.

It is estimated that millions of people will lose their hearing in the next 5 years due to the baby boomer generation getting older. However, most likely a large percentage of them will get CIs and wont need support services if the CIs work well for them. Rush Limbag is one example..
 
It is estimated that millions of people will lose their hearing in the next 5 years due to the baby boomer generation getting older. However, most likely a large percentage of them will get CIs and wont need support services if the CIs work well for them. Rush Limbag is one example..

Oh, right! Well. I ran out of my words. CI probably help for most of them. (Darn it.)
 
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