Morning-after pills made available to N.Y. high school students

[rolling7]

Certainly. Does that stop them from having sex? No.

And I agree with you. However, we need to let them know they will suffer the consequences of irresponsible sex. Todays teens seem to think Mom/Dad or the taxpayers will pay the consequences. Teach them, give them all the equipment (i.e. condoms, b/c) and then tell them: It is ALL on YOU. That is the way I grew up.

 

[rolling7]

In my opinion you are wrong and I'm not bullying you...As stated time and time again, the Parent(s) have the right to opt out if they do not want their child to have this Pill....There's no need to ask everyone in New York City!...This is between the Teen, the Parent and the School, and it has been well-received....

If you don't like it, that's tough....go to New York City to fight it. But don't believe you'll get very far.

And I respect you opinion. I have never ebert thought you were bulling me, just another member not you.

 

[Foxrac]

And I respect you opinion. I have never ebert thought you were bulling me, just another member not you.

No one bullying you, even Jiro and me. :roll:

 

[rockin'robin]

And I agree with you. However, we need to let them know they will suffer the consequences of irresponsible sex. Todays teens seem to think Mom/Dad or the taxpayers will pay the consequences. Teach them, give them all the equipment (i.e. condoms, b/c) and then tell them: It is ALL on YOU. That is the way I grew up.

Well, it wasn't the way I grew up. Even sex education was taboo in school at that time....

And your way of thinking, it's all been tried that way....and it's not working!...This is a new Generation....And it's been said also...some Teens will listen, some will not....And there are too many that do know the consequences, still they lose control or actually really don't care!..."Who's Ur Baby Daddy"?...has taken on a new meaning.

Your way of thinking has not worked well enough, too many single teen mothers still getting pregnant...and blaming the Male for it?....doesn't work either....2 to Tango...we know that...or blaming the female?...No...

I spoke with 2 of my sons yesterday about this, (18 and 16)...keeping them updated...then again, some parents will not, don't know about it or really don't care....My sons think it's a good idea, even tho' they both have Condoms...I do not and have not ever asked my sons "Are you sexually active?"....And I signed a consent form for them when they were in Middle School for Sex Education....I remind them to change their Condoms in their wallet and to let me know if they are out and need more.....

There is no way you are gonna stop a Teen from having sex once they have started. It's Nature.

 

[Jiro]

And I agree with you. However, we need to let them know they will suffer the consequences of irresponsible sex. Todays teens seem to think Mom/Dad or the taxpayers will pay the consequences. Teach them, give them all the equipment (i.e. condoms, b/c) and then tell them: It is ALL on YOU. That is the way I grew up.

you keep bugging us about "all" and "most".

and you're not realizing that you're being a hypocrite. ALL/MOST people do not grow up the same way as you did.

 

[Smithtr]

And I respect you opinion. I have never ebert thought you were bulling me, just another member not you.

you cut to stay away spare!!!! you too much on all the times! avoid on the time!

I am hand off!

 

[Foxrac]

you keep bugging us about "all" and "most".

and you're not realizing that you're being a hypocrite. ALL/MOST people do not grow up the same way as you did.

Yup, I agree with you.

Yo rolling - watch your word.

 

[Mimsy]

Shouldn't this kind of drug be from a clinic and not a school? I just feel weird about schools overstepping the boundary to get involved in things like this. Maybe someday girls can go to the school nurse on her lunch break for abortion services??

 

[Jiro]

Shouldn't this kind of drug be from a clinic and not a school?

see below -

The program - known as CATCH for Connecting Adolescents to Comprehensive Healthcare - is an extension of services that already were available to about a quarter of all New York public school students through privately run health clinics.

The 13 public schools were chosen because such facilities were not available nearby.

so how are they supposed to get help? inability to access help and resource equals extremely costly problems in the long run and also many problems - domestic abuse, financial difficulty, dependency on welfare system, high school dropout, possibly homeless because parents disavowed them, drug crimes, suicides, etc. do we want that?

Beside.... there are procedures to be followed and doctors are already involved in this CATCH program. This is not like a drive-thru McDonald.

I just feel weird about schools overstepping the boundary to get involved in things like this.

not at all. it's well-received by public and doctors. 13 schools and growing.

Maybe someday girls can go to the school nurse on her lunch break for abortion services??

that would be illegal. School nurse cannot perform abortion procedure.

 

[Foxrac]

see below -


so how are they supposed to get help? inability to access help and resource equals extremely costly problems in the long run and also many problems - domestic abuse, financial difficulty, dependency on welfare system, high school dropout, possibly homeless because parents disavowed them, drug crimes, suicides, etc. do we want that?

Beside.... there are procedures to be followed and doctors are already involved in this CATCH program. This is not like a drive-thru McDonald.


not at all. it's well-received by public and doctors. 13 schools and growing.


that would be illegal. School nurse cannot perform abortion procedure.

Yup, the abortion has stringent regulation and no way for schools to provide this service, also it is bad public to school as well.

 

[rolling7]

Yup, I agree with you.

Yo rolling - watch your word.

Nope, you watch YOUR words Foxrac. Are you saying I was raised wrong? If you are, you are in for a huge fight with my Dad. If you are not, then I've been saying the right things all along. That is the point that kids need to be held accountable for THEIR CONSEQUENCES. If you disagree, that is your right.

 

[Foxrac]

Nope, you watch YOUR words Foxrac. Are you saying I was raised wrong? If you are, you are in for a huge fight with my Dad. If you are not, then I've been saying the right things all along. That is the point that kids need to be held accountable for THEIR CONSEQUENCES. If you disagree, that is your right.

No, you should watch your word because you use "ALL" and "MOST" so your post include all of us, or most of us so we disagree with your statement, so don't use all or most to mention about us.

Rest of your statement is opinion, or nonsense at least, and you hardly make any sense.

 

[TXgolfer]

School nurse cannot perform abortion procedure.

Yet.

 

[Foxrac]

And I agree with you. However, we need to let them know they will suffer the consequences of irresponsible sex. Todays teens seem to think Mom/Dad or the taxpayers will pay the consequences. Teach them, give them all the equipment (i.e. condoms, b/c) and then tell them: It is ALL on YOU. That is the way I grew up.

I didn't have same ways to grow up, as you did.

 

[TXgolfer]

so how are they supposed to get help? inability to access help and resource equals extremely costly problems in the long run and also many problems - domestic abuse, financial difficulty, dependency on welfare system, high school dropout, possibly homeless because parents disavowed them, drug crimes, suicides, etc. do we want that?

Seems a tad dramatic. Wonder what the costs of encouraging dishonesty and avoiding consequences will be.

 

[SneakerNet]

Sigh... upon my research for many years, and that include my children.
I'll try to be concise as much as possible....and going to be long.

First of all, in term of history...back in the old day that school offer sex education and that failed... Then later schools give out free condoms for all the raging hormonal students and that failed too.... why? Drugs.... there are large number of students were involved in drugs... ecstasy, sniffing, coke, crack, pot, alcohol and such. Those are the biggest problem today among the teenagers. If the kids got drunk and his/her hormone will increase, and will this guy able to put on the condom properly? Oh.. found your extra large condom putting on his foot... poor aim... or not even think that he have a condom with him.. but went ahead have sex anyway....(I'm whispering to all...Kids don't like to get interrupted by putting on condom ya know?) Drugs lead irresponsible sex.

Oh..okay... kids don't use drugs...? Passion is hard to resist.... I'm sure you all have experiences when go for kissing and hands touching the body, feeling the smooth skins.....and suddenly this guy (yeah..you guys..) having hard on, unexpected...(com'on guys...it's normal) fully clothes, pressed against her pelvic... and you know the rest... oh..ok easy to resist...not! I'm sure it's pretty hard to control yourselves..but it get deeper and deeper....they feel that they are perfect love...perfect match... (and that where sex education failed)....
So, get the idea, just have to understand what's going on in teenager's mind....

Now talking about parentings..... you have to remember.... Parents are expert about their children's lives, parents are expert about children's behavior, starting from birth till today. Not the doctor, not the grandparents... or anything like that. Doesn't matter if the parents are good or bad, but they are still expert about children. When I say "bad parents"... of course... they are expert but the problem is that they are unable to connect with them.. they don't know how to communicate correctly or unable to speak the truth. But, in their mind.. bad parents know alot about their own children.
So, talking about morning after pill, the parents know about child's behavior, like children can be very irresponsible person, lazy..always steal alcohol from his/her parents, trouble maker and such...it's beyond parents control. Parents can decided it's good idea to sign consent form for "morning after pill", because parents are expert about their children. Even if parents decided to opt-out because of their religion, anti-abortion, or willing to take the responsibility of new born grandchildren. So, it's their decision. So, remember, Parents are expert about their own children. Even parents give well training about sexuality, body natures, and such, and see if children willing to open talk about sexuality...hey dad!! I had sex last night...I think I finally broke virginity!! But dad!! don't worry!! I use condom!! Mom?? mom??? maawwwwwm??? This kind of example....will children talk about that? It's all depending on trust...between them.

And last.... medical responsibility.... Nurse giving out "morning after pill"... When they passed the law about giving the "morning after pill", I'm sure the nurses all got training about MAP (morning after pill) and strict rules before giving it to teenagers. It require series of questions before giving it out. As an example below:

When was her last period?
Is her period regular? or Irregular?
Did he use condom?
Were you drinking.. any black out?
How many guys have sex with?
Do you feel being rape?

And many more....Then I'm sure the nurses will consult with specialists and once they decided on their agreement.. they will consult with teenager's parents before giving MAP..it's all depending on the consent form... that they will contact parents to let them know nurses will give MAP. Remember, we have no idea what in the consent form says... on how they are written and what are the rules....

So.... my 2 cents....

 

[rockin'robin]

Nope, you watch YOUR words Foxrac. Are you saying I was raised wrong? If you are, you are in for a huge fight with my Dad. If you are not, then I've been saying the right things all along. That is the point that kids need to be held accountable for THEIR CONSEQUENCES. If you disagree, that is your right.

OK...are you saying (and I'm sticking to the subject)...that a teen who should become pregnant, a minor...needs to be held accountable for their consequencies?...Tell me How ...are they supposed to pay for pre-natal care, hospital bill, diapers, formula, etc. ....they haven't even finished school...and no J-O-B !...no education either...So, the State and their Parents have to "pay the consequences, not the Teen....And most Teens do not want to be "saddled down" to a crying baby....Guess What?...The Parents are the ones who will have to raise the child.

 

[ambrosia]

nevermind

 

[Foxrac]

I think that people, even parents should think twice about having a child because child requires a lot of responsibility. For me, I will do my best to teach my child about situation with sex and strongly encourage them to not sex at all, until finish the school, if they won't so teach them to use safe sex, such as condom and expect them to know about any risk associated with sex, including STD. I know there are many parents do teach child about risk with sex, but most of them won't listen at all. If my future child isn't listen so I couldn't do much, however if they have unprotected sex in less than 24 hours so Plan B is best option, if not then abortion or adoption are two options. If my teen wants to keep baby so it is very unfortunate, so I have pay for all basic needs for their baby until my teen turns into adult, so they will on their own and need find a job. I'm not going to disown the children for doing stupid, irresponsibility with their life and I should find way to make them realize that life is never easy.

If you don't want deal with teen pregnancy in future so don't have child at first place.

 

[Foxrac]

I haven't read through all the comments yet BUT.....I'm a 37 year old woman who had sex with her HUSBAND and the condom broke, I went to the pharmacy and got the Morning after Pill, didn't go to the doctor, you don't have to have a perscription for it.

Wow, it is just **** happens.

The condom can break in anytime and that's no fun at all.

100% safe - don't sex at all, but I know not many people could follow that.