Marty Has Started to PEE in MY BEDROOM!!

Kalima01 said:
if there is no medical reason for the peeing thenit is more than likely an attention seeking behaviour.
Any scolding or telling off will encourage him to continue.
By weeing in your room, on your bed etc, could be a sign he thinks he's more dominant then you.

You must only tell him off when you catch him in the act. if you come home / wake up to a mess, then ignore it, put Marty outside for wees and then clean up (make sure he does NOT see you clean up!!)

It make take a few weeks or months but if you continue to ignore it, then eventually he will stop.

Bad attantion is better than no attention at all.

Is Marty castrated?
If not, you should look into it, would help with territorial marking.
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First of all I would never leave and dog outside by their-self. Marty knew he messed up when he peed in my bedroom . I did not have to tell him this, he is very smart. And he was not peeing to get my attention. When Marty want my attention he will come to me .Dogs do not think like people , they don't think "man I think I will do something really bad to get more attention! "
If they did dogs would being doing something 'bad' all the time! Marty was castrated when he was 2 years old at the shelter. He is a recused dog and was on death row in California , I got him in April 2011 , he was very sick and I nurse him back to health. He was abused and it took time for us to bound and I am not doing to do anything to break Marty trust with me. He was mouthy with me at first as he did not know if I was going to hurt him. Marty now likes to sleep with his face on my face. So I know I am doing something right in taking care of him.
 
Is Marty still peeing in the bedroom?
 
dogmom said:
dominance has nothing to do with peeing.

dominance means priority access to resources, which vary among dogs, and from moment to moment in the same dog. Dominant is a fluid/changing pattern, not a characteristic or personality trait.
Dominance the way it is used on popular tv and in the "public" thinking is not accurate.

it will only stop based on a number of contingencies - there is no medical issue;
the dog believes it's "safe" or ok to pee outside; dog has been reinforced for peeing outside....

telling a dog off when you catch them doing it will likely have no effect, or will scare/confuse them and lead them to want to go hide away from the person and pee where the person doesn't see them, may also curtail any signals of "I have to pee".
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I worked at a vet hospital, I ran puppy socialisation classes and was working alongside a behaviourist as I was going to study the same thing...

Dominant dogs can use urine to dominate.
I was helping a lady with her dog as he partner was in the Navy so away a lot of the time. Dog was a champ. As soon as partner came home, dog would "mask" the guys scent in the bed by peeing all over it.
Dog would also mark other places in the house, dog was castrated too, but at a late age so the dominant behaviour was set in.
Dog was an absolute angel when partner was away.

Also I wasn't referring to "telling off" when you catch a dog in the act. You need to say no and then move the dog to where he can pee (e.g. outside) and praise him if he pees in the right spot.
Dogs respond more to positive feedback then negative.
 
whatdidyousay! said:
First of all I would never leave and dog outside by their-self. Marty knew he messed up when he peed in my bedroom . I did not have to tell him this, he is very smart. And he was not peeing to get my attention. When Marty want my attention he will come to me .Dogs do not think like people , they don't think "man I think I will do something really bad to get more attention! "
If they did dogs would being doing something 'bad' all the time! Marty was castrated when he was 2 years old at the shelter. He is a recused dog and was on death row in California , I got him in April 2011 , he was very sick and I nurse him back to health. He was abused and it took time for us to bound and I am not doing to do anything to break Marty trust with me. He was mouthy with me at first as he did not know if I was going to hurt him. Marty now likes to sleep with his face on my face. So I know I am doing something right in taking care of him.
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Dogs will in fact do bad things in order to get attention. I was studying dog behaviour and I was working alongside a behaviourist... It's more common than you think.
Most dogs try when they hit puberty. You have a puppy, you toilet train him and everything is hunky dory and as soon as 4 - 6 mths hit, dog may start peeing in house again etc - just like a teenager, pup is "pushing" the boundaries.

It's fantastic what you have done with Marty, nursing him back to health etc, so glad he found a perfect owner to protect and love him :)

Well if you won't put Marty outside, what about the bathroom? Or where does he normally pee? All I'm saying is that he mustn't see you clean up thats all. If it is attention seeking then you would be reinforcing it.

Although Marty comes to get you when he wants attantion, that doesn't mean he won't do other things too... Just like naughty children
 
:wave: Kalima

you and I have done similar things - I've worked at a vet hospital, have taught Puppy and Basic classes and assisted in agility with various other trainers, have worked with behaviorists and currently do behavior modification at a shelter.

True- dogs do what works for them, so if doing things the person doesn't like, gets them attention, they will continue to do that.

It's also true that I over-generalized and mis-typed - IF the dog see the area as a resource to mark, then yes, that could be a dominance response. But there's peeing and there's actual marking.
But the dog is not "dominant" as a consistent trait.

I personally don't use "no" - it means nothing to the dog unless specifically and repetitively conditioned with the antecedent and behavior
Doesn't give the dog something he -can- do.


I also agree about what a great doggie parent you are, whatdidyousay!
You've done so much work with Marty!

I'm wondering about trying those Pee Posts, if you need to, whatdidyousay...something additional in relation to other ideas, to help him "go THERE, not here" kinda thing. We personally haven't had great luck with the one we got some years back but it could still be useful for someone else to try different things.
 
dogmom said:
:wave: Kalima

you and I have done similar things - I've worked at a vet hospital, have taught Puppy and Basic classes and assisted in agility with various other trainers, have worked with behaviorists and currently do behavior modification at a shelter.

True- dogs do what works for them, so if doing things the person doesn't like, gets them attention, they will continue to do that.

It's also true that I over-generalized and mis-typed - IF the dog see the area as a resource to mark, then yes, that could be a dominance response. But there's peeing and there's actual marking.
But the dog is not "dominant" as a consistent trait.

I personally don't use "no" - it means nothing to the dog unless specifically and repetitively conditioned with the antecedent and behavior
Doesn't give the dog something he -can- do.


I also agree about what a great doggie parent you are, whatdidyousay!
You've done so much work with Marty!

I'm wondering about trying those Pee Posts, if you need to, whatdidyousay...something additional in relation to other ideas, to help him "go THERE, not here" kinda thing. We personally haven't had great luck with the one we got some years back but it could still be useful for someone else to try different things.
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I def tend to agree with you there, dogs respond much better to positive reinforcement. Like if a dog is chewing a shoe, you take it away and replace with one of pup's toys and praise him when he chews on it etc...
 
I am not certain that you got him from the dog pound? I knew some people have a problem with dog's behavior, and they just drop off dogs to shelter without help. I am glad that you are figuring out solve with Marty's problem! :) Good luck!
 
All dogs do have their litle accidents .we humans do too!...I remember having to pee-pee myself and was hurrying home and before I could get the door unlocked...peeds all over myself!....

Even when I had my 6 dogs (when I lived in the Country on 1 acre)...I took them for a ride in my 8 passenger Van, and one of my dogs had to poop...I was not paying attention, as I was driving....and when she pooped in the back seat...all of the other dogs moved away...and were giving her the "evil eye!"...as if she had done a horrible thing!....My doggie sort of "hung her head"...knowing it was a "bad thing to do"..... but she could not help it....

I just pulled over and cleaned up the mess (always carried something in the Van for accidents such as this)....I did not scold my doggie...just by looking at her, I knew she felt terrible for doing that!....
 
rockin'robin said:
All dogs do have their litle accidents .we humans do too!...I remember having to pee-pee myself and was hurrying home and before I could get the door unlocked...peeds all over myself!....

Even when I had my 6 dogs (when I lived in the Country on 1 acre)...I took them for a ride in my 8 passenger Van, and one of my dogs had to poop...I was not paying attention, as I was driving....and when she pooped in the back seat...all of the other dogs moved away...and were giving her the "evil eye!"...as if she had done a horrible thing!....My doggie sort of "hung her head"...knowing it was a "bad thing to do"..... but she could not help it....

I just pulled over and cleaned up the mess (always carried something in the Van for accidents such as this)....I did not scold my doggie...just by looking at her, I knew she felt terrible for doing that!....
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Awww bless her, poor darl!! And the other dog's shunning her!! How mean hahah
 
rockin'robin said:
Marty is surely a very loving dog towards you...whatdoyousay!...He's not gonna let another dog near you, that's for sure!

So now you know the reason for his peeing....altho' I would not like it if my doggie peed on my leg...:giggle:....maybe Marty is secretly saying...."You're mine, Babe!"
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Yeah , I was very falter that Marty peed on my leg! He does try to protect me from big dogs , Marty will jump up at a bigger dog to try a push it away from me!
 
DeafCaroline said:
My cat just peed on my laundry bag - filled with five loads of just freshly laundered clothes. damnit!
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What a drag! Cat pee is really strong smelling ! Did you just move to new place?
I know some cats have a hard time adjusting to being a new home and will pee in the wrong place.
 
Reba said:
Is Marty still peeing in the bedroom?
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He had not peed in my bed room again! But you better knock on wood for me!!
I take his waters bowls away earlier now, at 9:00PM . We go to bed around 12AM .
 
dogmom said:
:wave: Kalima

you and I have done similar things - I've worked at a vet hospital, have taught Puppy and Basic classes and assisted in agility with various other trainers, have worked with behaviorists and currently do behavior modification at a shelter.

True- dogs do what works for them, so if doing things the person doesn't like, gets them attention, they will continue to do that.

It's also true that I over-generalized and mis-typed - IF the dog see the area as a resource to mark, then yes, that could be a dominance response. But there's peeing and there's actual marking.
But the dog is not "dominant" as a consistent trait.

I personally don't use "no" - it means nothing to the dog unless specifically and repetitively conditioned with the antecedent and behavior
Doesn't give the dog something he -can- do.


I also agree about what a great doggie parent you are, whatdidyousay!
You've done so much work with Marty!

I'm wondering about trying those Pee Posts, if you need to, whatdidyousay...something additional in relation to other ideas, to help him "go THERE, not here" kinda thing. We personally haven't had great luck with the one we got some years back but it could still be useful for someone else to try different things.
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I don't think my condo would allow me to up and pee posts in the lawn as it would get in the way of cutting the grass. Marty has been peeing where the other dog pee. He use to pee away from the house, but now he is marking his territory. When I first got brought home from the shelter I had my coat on a chair and Marty must had smell Finlay odor on it as he peed right next my coat! He only did that one time! Thanks goodness! I was worried he was going to try and pee all over the house! He was over 2 years when he got neutered at the shelter and he was very sick too! No one thought anything of Marty having a cough until I said something!
 
you probably got a nervous dog?
or something had trumadised the dog (an accident in the yard that you're not aware of, dominance? it could be anything
 
Marty is one of most laid back dog I had met! He is not a nervous dog. He was neutered when he was two years old and that is late . They get neutered when they're 6 months old so Marty still will mark his territory in the 'wrong' places. He is actually very good about not having an accident in the house unless he is sick or taking med. He does not bark when we have a thunder storm and does not bark when people come into the house. I wish he would bark a little when people come onto my deck so I will know someone there.
 
whatdidyousay! said:
He had not peed in my bed room again! But you better knock on wood for me!!
I take his waters bowls away earlier now, at 9:00PM . We go to bed around 12AM .
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Taking the water bowl away is better than having to put a twist tie on his pee-pee!....j/k...:giggle:
 
Reminded me of my old rowdy out of control lab that would destroy stuff chewing etc. He would look at me and lift his leg on the door into my bedroom when I yelled at him to get out. When I realized he was doing that as a territory thing telling me this space was his too, don't care what Caesar Milan would say about being a leader, it was mutal respect for one another and he never did it again I never told him to get out of the room and he listened to me feared my father and didn't listen to anyone else in the family.
 
whatdidyousay! said:
I took Marty out last night and the woman next door is taking care of her mother male dog ! This is why Marty been marking his territory all around the building! The other dog is very friendly, but Marty feel the dog is 'trespassing' The dog is allowed to run around the yard which it crazy as we have a coyote living close by.
I think Marty is trying mark my bed as his territory too as he peed right at foot of my bed and in it!! When I went to the shelter to check Marty out my daughter and granddaughter where with me and Marty peed on my leg as if he was marking me ! It was love at first sight! LOL!!
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That makes sense.

That's what happens when you have two male dogs close to each other. They fight for dominance.

My parents had two male dalmatians. They were always fighting and always peeing all over the place. So, whenever my parents left the house... they would lock the dogs up in cages. One eventually had problems and had to be put to sleep. After that, they never had problems with one dog and was able to leave him out of the cage when they were gone.
 
I just took Marty out and I discovered that someone is letting their dog shit around the condo! I don't think it the dog from next door as he is not staying here right now. I did see a woman walking her dog a few months back and the woman was letting her dog pee on our lawn! I told the woman that this private propriety and the idiot did not believe me. The sidewalks is for the public but the lawns belongs to my condo complex, the woman became really angry when I asked if she was picking up her dog poop. There is poop right in my driveway now and it is not from Marty! Some people make me sick!!
 
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