Marlee Matlin

Oh I see. Interesting. Thanks for the clarification. :)
 
Jolie_77 said:
Agreed. I also would like to add this on my part - Marlee is the first deaf actress to win an academy award. That alone carried a lot of weight and it did indeed broke a lot of barriers. It gave a glimpse of how deaf people were able to incline their selves into the hearing world. She was also a "pioneer" to represent the deaf community in the films on a major level, especially when it comes to be able to bridge the gaps between both worlds.
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Yep, I agree, she is the first actress ever get an academy award show that she did break lot of barriers that really shook up everybody. I think that great she did that. How often do a deaf actor or actress ever win an academy? I would say she be the first in history to get a academy award as as deaf person. It was pretty impressive. But glad that happens. :)
 
Ariakkas said:
im surprised there has been such positive responses about her here...perhaps in a generational thing.


ive heard from countless individuals how they dont like her, how she isn't Deaf enough, because during her award speech, she used her voice instead of signing, furthering the negative stigma.
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I don't see anything wrong with her using her speech as a deaf person. I don't see how that is negative. I am deaf, I speak very well almost like hearing person and read lips very good. I think it was usful for me because I don't have to keep writting on a piece of papers to share notes ha. But What she does it up to her. If other deaf people didn't like her to use speech, then their problem. If some don't like her,, then again that their problem. How would they really know her in person if they dislike her? That jumping too far. :) I have deaf friends often needs me to interpert lot cuz I can speak. SO, pretty much no big deal. :)
 
GarnetTigerMom said:
I don't see anything wrong with her using her speech as a deaf person. I don't see how that is negative. I am deaf, I speak very well almost like hearing person and read lips very good. I think it was usful for me because I don't have to keep writting on a piece of papers to share notes ha. But What she does it up to her. If other deaf people didn't like her to use speech, then their problem. If some don't like her,, then again that their problem. How would they really know her in person if they dislike her? That jumping too far. :) I have deaf friends often needs me to interpert lot cuz I can speak. SO, pretty much no big deal. :)
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I think alot of people tied Marlee too closely to her character in Children of a Lesser God (Sara) - because Sara didn't speak in the film people expected Marlee not to as well .... was it the right thing for people to do . NO. Didi it happen .. yeah - I think it did
 
Anij said:
I think alot of people tied Marlee too closely to her character in Children of a Lesser God (Sara) - because Sara didn't speak in the film people expected Marlee not to as well .... was it the right thing for people to do . NO. Didi it happen .. yeah - I think it did
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Acutally Marlee didn't learn to speak until much later after the children of the lessar GOD was over. She started to take up speech classes later when she was on TV show I Forgot what name of it she played a deaf lawyer with Mark Harmon when she started her 6 months training to speak. Most time she use her voice other time she don't I do that too. I don't see the harm. :) I find out what was the show she did as lawyer. I get back to you on that. :)
 
Okay, Here Marlee's list of show and movies she had done.

1. Childern of the Lesser GOD (1986 Academy award )

2. Walker (1987)

3. Reasonable Doubts (1991)

4. Picket Feneces ( 1992 Emmy ward )

5. Where the truth lies (1999)

6. Extreme Makeover: Home Edition (2003)

Here other release of her book called

1. Nobody's Perfect (2006)

2. Leading Ladies (2007)


She will be on dancing with the stars for 6th seasons (2008) with her partner will be a newcommer name Fabian Sanchez.
 
GarnetTigerMom said:
Acutally Marlee didn't learn to speak until much later after the children of the lessar GOD was over. She started to take up speech classes later when she was on TV show I Forgot what name of it she played a deaf lawyer with Mark Harmon when she started her 6 months training to speak. Most time she use her voice other time she don't I do that too. I don't see the harm. :) I find out what was the show she did as lawyer. I get back to you on that. :)
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Reasonable Doubt was the show. I was really pissed when NBC canned the show because the suits (CEOs and Executives)thought that a deaf lawyer was unrealistic and being a lawyer belongs to the hearing world. :mad:
 
yizuman said:
Reasonable Doubt was the show. I was really pissed when NBC canned the show because the suits (CEOs and Executives)thought that a deaf lawyer was unrealistic and being a lawyer belongs to the hearing world. :mad:
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AH yes, I agree because I think CEOs and Exectives shouldn't have canceled that show unless they meet a real deaf lawyers. I don't see how what is unrealistic is that. I am sure there are some deaf lawyers in the hearing world. Seems they still view deaf in a negative way saying "Deaf can't do it in the real world " But I would say " deaf can do it!" I wish they put that show back on air! grrr
 
GarnetTigerMom said:
Acutally Marlee didn't learn to speak until much later after the children of the lessar GOD was over. She started to take up speech classes later when she was on TV show I Forgot what name of it she played a deaf lawyer with Mark Harmon when she started her 6 months training to speak. Most time she use her voice other time she don't I do that too. I don't see the harm. :) I find out what was the show she did as lawyer. I get back to you on that. :)
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Sorry - to clarify ... I meant her Oscar speech some time later ( I think some people still connected her with the Sara)
 
GarnetTigerMom said:
5. Where the truth lies (1999).
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ah, 1999? Thank for more specs. Cheri haven't give the specs to me.

Anyway, I see on amazon, no cc or subtitle from the one feedback. That's interest. I'm ask MM thry her myspace. wee wee
 
Anij said:
Sorry - to clarify ... I meant her Oscar speech some time later ( I think some people still connected her with the Sara)
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Sara never speaked at all in the movie. I think people need to realized it only a movie. It shouldn't take it too personally u know. :)
 
PowerON said:
ah, 1999? Thank for more specs. Cheri haven't give the specs to me.

Anyway, I see on amazon, no cc or subtitle from the one feedback. That's interest.
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Oh yes Now I remember the movie where truth lies. Yes it is captions becasue it was shown on HBO channel. so it should be caption on DVD. They don't make VSH anymore. :)
 
Yes, we totally deaf are the royalty of the Land of the Deaf. Those with a bit of residual hearing can live outside the castle walls, but not cross the moat. Outside are the riff-raff who can hear better with devices. And far on the outter periphery are those who can hear just fine, but like to wear a hearing aid for jewelry and are members of SHHH.

No, that's crazy, but some total deafies sometimes come off that way--silence is superior; oral is outcast.
 
Chase said:
Yes, we totally deaf are the royalty of the Land of the Deaf. Those with a bit of residual hearing can live outside the castle walls, but not cross the moat. Outside are the riff-raff who can hear better with devices. And far on the outter periphery are those who can hear just fine, but like to wear a hearing aid for jewelry and are members of SHHH.

No, that's crazy, but some total deafies sometimes come off that way--silence is superior; oral is outcast.
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You said it better than I ever could! Good posting!
 
Anij said:
I think alot of people tied Marlee too closely to her character in Children of a Lesser God (Sara) - because Sara didn't speak in the film people expected Marlee not to as well .... was it the right thing for people to do . NO. Didi it happen .. yeah - I think it did
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You may be right about that. We also have to remember the social climate at the time Marlee received her Academy Award. It was right after DPN, and the deaf/Deaf community was receiving recognition and respect for their demand to be treated as a cultural and linguistic minority for the first time in American history. Because the signing deaf were being accepted and noticed as capable, intelligent, people in charge of their own destinies for the first time, the Deaf community was anxious for that image to be protrayed at every opportunity. Millions of people watch the Academy Awards, and it was felt that she missed the opportunity to represent the Deaf community in a way that promoted respect and admiration for the signing deaf.
 
Chase said:
Yes, we totally deaf are the royalty of the Land of the Deaf. Those with a bit of residual hearing can live outside the castle walls, but not cross the moat. Outside are the riff-raff who can hear better with devices. And far on the outter periphery are those who can hear just fine, but like to wear a hearing aid for jewelry and are members of SHHH.

No, that's crazy, but some total deafies sometimes come off that way--silence is superior; oral is outcast.
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Agree that it is simply perpetrating the discrimination, simply changing the vantage point. Still and all, I can see it as a reasonable and not unexpected reaction to the oral discrimination perpetrated upon the deaf for centuries. Doesn't make it justifiable....simply understandable.
 
GarnetTigerMom said:
Acutally Marlee didn't learn to speak until much later after the children of the lessar GOD was over. She started to take up speech classes later when she was on TV show I Forgot what name of it she played a deaf lawyer with Mark Harmon when she started her 6 months training to speak. Most time she use her voice other time she don't I do that too. I don't see the harm. :) I find out what was the show she did as lawyer. I get back to you on that. :)
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Mmm. I hadn't known that.
 
jillio said:
Agree that it is simply perpetrating the discrimination, simply changing the vantage point. Still and all, I can see it as a reasonable and not unexpected reaction to the oral discrimination perpetrated upon the deaf for centuries. Doesn't make it justifiable....simply understandable.
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Yeah. I can understand but it still pisses me off when I am on the receiving end of this by some strong Deafies.

I'm not going to pretend that I can't speak to please others except when I'm in a hurry and I don't want to have ask others to repeat themselves over and over because they thought my speech = good hearing. Nor am I going to tell others to get a CI if they don't want it even if I think they'll benefit. I can think of at least one poster here who'd benefit but I've never told her to get one.

I'm not going to make fun of other deafies' voices. For some reason, I get mad when I see hearing make fun of deafies' voices - it's like I take it personal; I have no memory of having people make fun of my speech all the time. I can only remember two instances where this happened to me. Go figure that one out.

I could go on an on but I think it's better to fight those who would oppress us than to alienate each other.
 
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