Marlee Matlin into deaf culture or not?

I had heard she snobby. Later I happened to read much of her book......it was much more about her associations with the rich and famous than having anything to do with deaf people.......only as it related to her deafness in Hollywood. It was all about her.Oh well.....what the publisher wantedlikely....moneymaker.
 
Cowpuppy said:
I had heard she snobby. Later I happened to read much of her book......it was much more about her associations with the rich and famous than having anything to do with deaf people.......only as it related to her deafness in Hollywood. It was all about her.Oh well.....what the publisher wantedlikely....moneymaker.
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Which book? I'll Scream Later?
 
CJB said:
Which book? I'll Scream Later?
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I'll Scream Later was amazing. But I'm biased. And of course it was all about her. It was an autobiography. And it talked A LOT about her growing up deaf in Morton Grove and how she tried to break any barriers there might have been for Deaf actors. It IS pretty subtle though. I caught more of it the second time I read it. Maybe you will too? =)
 
I was impressed that she came out about her drug abuse and so on. Before this book she almost seemed too perfect to be true in her interviews and now she seems more human.
 
Barbaro said:
Well, when I was a kid, I have had been to the local deaf olympic and local deaf talent shows many times. Howie Seago, and Terrylene always showed up at activities. Howie Seago even brought his own limo with him, so his driver can drive us around for fun. Howie Seago was my drama teacher for several years. But there had been no sighting of Marlee. He even tried to convince her to come, but she did not come, and kept saying that she was busy.

A while ago, my interpreter and her daughter approached Marlee politely to ask for an autograph, but instead, Marlee threw a pen at them, and ignored them completely. They still have no idea what made her do it.:dunno2:
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Terrylene? I remember her from my AP History and English classes. She's a wonderful person and certainly a lot friendlier than Marlee whom I met once.
 
Nan_Mathews said:
Good for Marlee that she does whatever. She is deaf. She is an actress. Does that make her automatically a role model? She is a good actress. She supports charities. She portrays strong Deaf woman characters. She dances on TV and shows what she can do. I am happy that she is able to do these things. That is a great example. Just a granny's opinion. Of course I am late deaf, not Deaf. I am still a strong, able, deaf woman. No less proud. So there. (grin)
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haha, amen sister. u get em nan! :ty:
 
Thanks Annie. We dont need only actors or actresses to idolize in deaf culture. We have deaf doctors, like the one here on AD,(Deaf Doc) nurses, (right HOHDoug?) athletes, photographers, and people like Anita Buel, who founded Pink Deafies, giving deaf women access to breast cancer info. How about Jillio here on AD who gives her time helping us HOH and Late Deaf? Any deaf person can succeed and help others. Let Marlee be Marlee.
 
shel90 said:
Seems like you hate the Deaf community? Not everyone in the Deaf community is like that..FYI.
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Actually, if you noticed, I used both "deaf culture" and "deaf people" for example.

We ALL need to accept each other, regardless.
 
I agree wholeheartedly with you, Grummer and pek1. I have the same problem with people who stick in their little world "Culturally Deaf crowd" who aren't very acceptance of people of their own kind. I don't care if Marlee is nor is not a part of the Deaf Culture, she's deaf and it doesn't make her less of a deaf person than we are. ;)
 
Grummer said:
ever thought, he is saying the some members of the Deaf community were responsible for making stereotypes about deaf and Deaf people?

how does this are connected as to making hearing people ignorant about Deaf people judge us inccorectly right on the spot. It is the hearing peope themselves !!!, not deaf or Deaf people, indeed perhaps, those 'new' stereotypes could come from sign language classes where Deaf people 'owns' or so they THINK they OWNs the entire deaf world.
its a real two way thing going on here.

I didnt deliberately stand to say All Deaf people, i used "Deaf" to indicate that some of those affliated to this cultural groups, especially those involved in politics (or some who thinks they are but doesnt go to meetings, yet rant at the Deaf club) how was i supposed to say? it is You who took it as a blanket statement, I suppose on hindsight, i may should have said 'some members of the Deaf community might' sorry i got lazy, and now I am saying that i didnt deliberately DO a blanket statement wittingly OK.

also it is usually the HEaring people (nor deaf or Deaf who taught the hearing) of the over generalised way that leads to stereotyping. It is the hearing people who does it, perhaps some deaf but not as much as you'd think.

believe me though, in my town, where i am currently, (and i dont plan to stay for too long), is really backwards, the mis-matched flooding of 'trendy' Deaf culture hype is here but it has changed a bit since 15 years ago and they displayed alot of contempt, hell one guy i know is a president (elected - that i dont know how they decided this,crazy) of the group where they advocate for Sign language to be taught compulsorily in primary schools, and yet he HATES all deaf people who does not sign (even if they want to) and it is literally like he thinks he has a right to decide who belongs or not belongs to the Deaf world. It is Stupid, and really paints a Bad image for d/Deaf people. Those kind of Deafs in my opinion are not desired/needed we want to evolve, grow and emphasis freindship not bloody war! come to think of it I have never seen a Deaf advisors (hearing - and very powerful) participate totally, it is Alwats on their terms, their 'faults' in failure to educate, or to socialise d/Deaf people is Always taken of agenda everytime (this is my pet theory ok) so in this way it is never seen they have had ANYTHING to do with stereotyping d/Deaf people, but they surely did. It was all entirely institutionalised into the education system, so naturalised, as does the 'society' - ie hearing culture/hearing society is seen by d/Deaf people 'as naturally ignorant' when in lies is a risk they we (as you just showed me here) trick to decieve ourselves to think we were responsible for the ignorance, no it time to band together and start saying who is /were Really responsible for this mess, the hearing controllers whose adminstrated our learning years. Sign language politics is an important area no doubt but it isn't the ONLY area is all i can say for now. it is huge! we need to look on further.

and once again i said Deaf people previous (and admittingly carelessly) was only for sake of illustrating what is happening.
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I definitely enjoy your posts you have a lot to say, and its extremely enlightening you come across as a Sociologist haha. Never knew just how bad these issue can get within deaf/Deaf community.
 
PowerON said:
thank you!
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I'm curious, why does it make you so happy when you find out someone has trouble hearing? He now has a hole in his head that wasn't there from birth and the fall damn near killed him...and I'll bet he probably suffers from headaches. Is that a good thing too? Strange fascination....

Laura
 
Shara said:
I definitely enjoy your posts you have a lot to say, and its extremely enlightening you come across as a Sociologist haha. Never knew just how bad these issue can get within deaf/Deaf community.
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ive evolved since that post...and right now, there were more new information since.
I will only say this once, the mess of Deaf politics has recently gotten worse because a fat bitch had claimed NZSL to be useful as a learning tool for the Downs Sydromes, and alot of Deaf in this town are not happy about it. Recently, this fat bitch told that MP (same as your congreemen/congresswomen in USA) that she doesnt claim NZSL (New Zealand Sign Language) , and moreso the MP have spoken of this in support (of mixing Downs and Deat grrrr!), the damage is done.

My interest right now is not this, however.

I'm sure alot of Deaf people dont like to be lumped with intellectually disabled people, it really gives the Wrong message!
on so many levels.
 
Cheri said:
I agree wholeheartedly with you, Grummer and pek1. I have the same problem with people who stick in their little world "Culturally Deaf crowd" who aren't very acceptance of people of their own kind. I don't care if Marlee is nor is not a part of the Deaf Culture, she's deaf and it doesn't make her less of a deaf person than we are. ;)
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What about your little SEE world? u are stuck in it. Lol
 
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