Maine Mayor Wants To Make Names And Addresses Of Welfare Recipients Public

[jonnyghost]

I did actually catch that, if I made you feel like I was attacking you that is not my intention at all...

Not at all. I think we are all being very civil here.

 

[jonnyghost]

Perhaps we should have list of corporations that is collecting welfare post on public... What would you think would happen to those corporations? Bet they don't want that to happen, eh? I think should!

Yup

http://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoc...t-taxpayers-6-2-billion-in-public-assistance/

"Walmart’s low-wage workers cost U.S. taxpayers an estimated $6.2 billion in public assistance including food stamps, Medicaid and subsidized housing, according to a report published to coincide with Tax Day, April 15."

 

[jonnyghost]

Some more

http://www.goodjobsfirst.org/corporate-subsidy-watch/hidden-taxpayer-costs

"Maine
In June 2005 the Institute for Local Self-Reliance obtained data from the Maine Department of Health and Human Services on companies with workers enrolled in Medicaid and other public assistance programs (data on dependents was not available). At the top of the list was Wal-Mart, with 751 workers receiving benefits. It was followed by supermarket chain Hannaford with 527 and LL Bean with 170. In November 2005 the Lewiston Sun Journal obtained information from the state Department of Health and Human Services on those employers with the largest number of workers on MaineCare (the state's version of Medicaid), food stamps and TANF (temporary assistance to needy families). At the top of the list was Wal-Mart, with 1,100 employees in one or more of the programs, followed by the supermarket chain Hannaford Bros. (662), L.L. Bean (362) and Shaw's Supermarkets (257).
Sources: Press release issued June 28, 2005 by the Institute for Local Self-Reliance; available online at http://www.newrules.org/retail/news_slug.php?slugid=311 and Kathryn Skelton, "Working, On Welfare: Thousands in Maine Have Jobs, But Get Assistance," Lewiston Sun Journal, November 14, 2005."

 

[diehardbiker]

Maybe we could give wealthy people choice of being exposed (Those who pay their employees less in order to make their employees apply for the benefits) or pay more taxes. I think it is excellent idea to give choices than to force em.

 

[Reba]

Yup

http://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoc...t-taxpayers-6-2-billion-in-public-assistance/

"Walmart’s low-wage workers cost U.S. taxpayers an estimated $6.2 billion in public assistance including food stamps, Medicaid and subsidized housing, according to a report published to coincide with Tax Day, April 15."

And if they didn't work at Walmart, would they no longer need public assistance? Would they be better off without a Walmart job?

If they're working in jobs that don't require specialized skills, why should they be paid the same as skilled workers?

Entry-level jobs are just that--a way to get started in the working world, and then move on to a better-paying job. They aren't intended to be lifelong careers.

 

[Jezie]

And if they didn't work at Walmart, would they no longer need public assistance? Would they be better off without a Walmart job?

If they're working in jobs that don't require specialized skills, why should they be paid the same as skilled workers?

Entry-level jobs are just that--a way to get started in the working world, and then move on to a better-paying job. They aren't intended to be lifelong careers.

They may not be intended to be life long careers, but many people get stuck in these kinds of jobs, and for others, things happen and again they get stuck...

 

[Reba]

They may not be intended to be life long careers, but many people get stuck in these kinds of jobs, and for others, things happen and again they get stuck...

Yes, but that doesn't change the nature or classification of the job.

 

[Annie09Z]

And if they didn't work at Walmart, would they no longer need public assistance? Would they be better off without a Walmart job?

If they're working in jobs that don't require specialized skills, why should they be paid the same as skilled workers?

Entry-level jobs are just that--a way to get started in the working world, and then move on to a better-paying job. They aren't intended to be lifelong careers.

Ha, they are in Maine!

 

[Jezie]

Yes, but that doesn't change the nature or classification of the job.

No it does not, but they are, in general, the most commonly available job... So, maybe the issue may be in the classification of said jobs...
For people in all walks of life can get stuck in them... Regardless of what specialized skills they may have... Just because someone is working at a gas station, Walmart, or waffle house does not mean they are an unskilled worker..

 

[jonnyghost]

And if they didn't work at Walmart, would they no longer need public assistance? Would they be better off without a Walmart job?

If they're working in jobs that don't require specialized skills, why should they be paid the same as skilled workers?

Entry-level jobs are just that--a way to get started in the working world, and then move on to a better-paying job. They aren't intended to be lifelong careers.

That's a good question! All I know is when I look around at my town 90% of all job opportunities are at large box stores. All the local business was destroyed when the box stores moved in. I know a few people that went to work at the box stores from a local store that closed down and it was always a downgrade. So what should the majority do if the majority of jobs are "Entry-level"?

I'm not disagreeing with you Reba. I just don't know what the answer is for a lot of people. There just aren't many skilled trade jobs in Maine. Not enough for everyone anyway. All the mills and factories have shut down. Most of the local business is gone. Even a skilled woodworker might only make $15/hour and that's barely a living, not enough to have a family with.

 

[jonnyghost]

What if one day there is a walmart for everything. Will we all be minimum wage earners slaving for the corporate investors?

 

[Jezie]

Interesting read...
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/04/11/3425609/walmart-prices-food-stamps/

 

[whatdidyousay!]

True...had someone ask me if I they gave me $50 in food stamps, would I give them $20....??...said they would go with me to the grocery store. There's all kinds of ruses people make up...If there was a Law on people's conscience?....would that work?...

A woman once asked me to cash a welfare check she got using a dead
person name , I told her "NO way was I going to do that! " She was not a friend of mine . There was NO way I was going to touch that check , I didn't want to end up in jail too ! I had a child to think off she came first in my life ! I was really pissed of that she even asked me to do this .

 

[Annie09Z]

That's a good question! All I know is when I look around at my town 90% of all job opportunities are at large box stores. All the local business was destroyed when the box stores moved in. I know a few people that went to work at the box stores from a local store that closed down and it was always a downgrade. So what should the majority do if the majority of jobs are "Entry-level"?

I'm not disagreeing with you Reba. I just don't know what the answer is for a lot of people. There just aren't many skilled trade jobs in Maine. Not enough for everyone anyway. All the mills and factories have shut down. Most of the local business is gone. Even a skilled woodworker might only make $15/hour and that's barely a living, not enough to have a family with.

Jonnyghost, that's a good explanation. People really have to come to Maine and drive a bit away from the coast and they would understand.......there is no industry here. And the occupations along the coast are the service, hospitality industry which is seasonal! Also the fishing, lobstering occupations are at the whims of the weather and seasons.

We do have lots of colleges spread about the state, and work in that area, especially as a professor might be a bit more lucrative. Once the students graduate they leave the state to join their choice of jobs.

Maine used to be ful lof industry, manufacturing was very big, because of regulations and cheap labor....all gone.

 

[Foxrac]

I think that's why they use the EBT cards here now. Harder to sell.

EBT cards are no better.

Nope, no difference, as anyone can borrow card or escort with the owner of EBT pretend they are the one that makes purchases, then sell them at less value so that the EBT cardholder pocket themselves for something else. I have seen, and EVEN asked and I turned down cuz I don't want to be part of it.

Canada doesn't have food stamp anymore so they are funding the food banks, or food companies get tax break for donation and feeding the poor people.

Just found out - you will get more welfare money if there is no food stamp program.
http://munchies.vice.com/articles/hey-canada-why-dont-you-have-food-stamps

 

[diehardbiker]

A woman once asked me to cash a welfare check she got using a dead
person name , I told her "NO way was I going to do that! " She was not a friend of mine . There was NO way I was going to touch that check , I didn't want to end up in jail too ! I had a child to think off she came first in my life ! I was really pissed of that she even asked me to do this .

Yeah, when there is a will, there is a way, and it got plenty of choices some may be good, some may not be such brilliant idea.

Best way to approach is expect some bad apples, live with it since there isn't such thing as perfect system.

 

[rockin'robin]

Jonnyghost, that's a good explanation. People really have to come to Maine and drive a bit away from the coast and they would understand.......there is no industry here. And the occupations along the coast are the service, hospitality industry which is seasonal! Also the fishing, lobstering occupations are at the whims of the weather and seasons.

We do have lots of colleges spread about the state, and work in that area, especially as a professor might be a bit more lucrative. Once the students graduate they leave the state to join their choice of jobs.

Maine used to be ful lof industry, manufacturing was very big, because of regulations and cheap labor....all gone.

I've heard Maine is a beautiful state...just very cold...and a great place to raise your children...A friend of mine lived there when her husband was in the Navy.

 

[jonnyghost]

Yup, just go inland and you can find plenty of abandoned industrial buildings. Buy American and buy local!

 

[Foxrac]

I've heard Maine is a beautiful state...just very cold...and a great place to raise your children...A friend of mine lived there when her husband was in the Navy.

Yes, cold weather is bad for people with dry skin, including me and anxiety issue.

 

[Foxrac]

Yup, just go inland and you can find plenty of abandoned industrial buildings. Buy American and buy local!

Yes, there are a lot of abandoned industries in Birmingham, AL.

Back in 1960s, all of them were fully functional and pollution was HELL.