latest movie theater shooting..man shoots himself in the ass

[CrazyPaul]

Eventually, movie theaters will not allow guns. So that means you will have to leave it in your car.

 

[Reba]

Eventually, movie theaters will not allow guns. So that means you will have to leave it in your car.

No. If that became common practice by theaters, I would leave it at home, locked in the safe.

Since I attend movies at theaters about once every five years, it won't have much impact on my life.

 

[CrazyPaul]

No. If that became common practice by theaters, I would leave it at home, locked in the safe.

Since I attend movies at theaters about once every five years, it won't have much impact on my life.

Really? You must be a busy woman or what?

 

[Reba]

Really? You must be a busy woman or what?

Priorities. Going to movies is low on my list.

 

[CrazyPaul]

Priorities. Going to movies is low on my list.

OIC. Deaf people don't go to movies often as hearing people do, you know why.

 

[Reba]

OIC. Deaf people don't go to movies often as hearing people do, you know why.

Yes.

 

[Jiro]

That's why handguns come with safeties. Jiro is right.

but this guy's gun had safety too.... and it still went off. the best safety is you practicing proper, safe gun handling.

I grew up around guns, had other people discharging firearms inches from my face, and learned how to respect the weapons.

there you go. it's a poor gun handling, poor common sense, and poor practice of gun safety.

I am all for mandatory firearms training and a psych eval before anyone can go in public places while CCW.

not me. it's ineffectual and impractical. to support psych eval is to support a thought police.

 

[Jiro]

But there's families in movie theater. Bring a gun into a theater is very silly. Leave it in the car, beside everyone came to the movie theater to watch a movie, not to hurt others.

but... what about the crazed shooter at movie theater in Colorado?

FYI - people who carry concealed weapon do not hurt other people. they defend themselves from getting hurt or killed by crazy people.

 

[Jiro]

Eventually, movie theaters will not allow guns. So that means you will have to leave it in your car.

but.... why? the Aurora theater was massacred by a crazy shooter in a full military gear... not a person with CCW.

so how will "No Gun Allowed" sign help? You think James Holmes would follow that sign?

 

[Jiro]

No. If that became common practice by theaters, I would leave it at home, locked in the safe.

exactly. leaving a gun in the car is IMO a pure stupidity because car theft can happen anytime, anywhere.

Since I attend movies at theaters about once every five years, it won't have much impact on my life.

same here. no impact on my life at all. $12? forgettaboutit.

 

[Reba]

Something I just thought of.

What psychiatrist wants to be liable for signing off on gun owners who might end up in a shooting incident? If the gun owner that he signed "approved" for ends up shooting some innocent people, who do you think the survivors will sue?

 

[Jiro]

Something I just thought of.

What psychiatrist wants to be liable for signing off on gun owners who might end up in a shooting incident? If the gun owner that he signed "approved" for ends up shooting some innocent people, who do you think the survivors will sue?

very good question!

and also - every CCW permit is signed and issued by Police Chief. is police chief liable for it or should be held liable? my answer is... no. it's silly.

 

[Reba]

very good question!

and also - every CCW permit is signed and issued by Police Chief. is police chief liable for it or should be held liable? my answer is... no. it's silly.

That's your state. Mine is signed by the Director of SLED (South Carolina Law Enforcement Division).

Each state is different.

As far as liability, I think the difference between a law officer signing off, and a psychiatrist signing off, is that the law officer is merely verifying that the license holder has met the legal requirements of a permit. It's a lot easier to verify legal requirements (criminal background check, written and shooting test scores, photo, fingerprints, etc.), and harder to apply any liability.

 

[Jiro]

That's your state. Mine is signed by the Director of SLED (South Carolina Law Enforcement Division).

Each state is different.

well the concept is similar anyway. It's somebody important and higher ranking.

As far as liability, I think the difference between a law officer signing off, and a psychiatrist signing off, is that the law officer is merely verifying that the license holder has met the legal requirements of a permit. It's a lot easier to verify legal requirements (criminal background check, written and shooting test scores, photo, fingerprints, etc.), and harder to apply any liability.

true... but the only liability is a knee-jerk reaction by legislator to either ban or tighten the law.

 

[CrazyPaul]

but.... why? the Aurora theater was massacred by a crazy shooter in a full military gear... not a person with CCW.

so how will "No Gun Allowed" sign help? You think James Holmes would follow that sign?

Come on...even though there was no sign at the front entrance, he brought guns through the emergency exit anyway.

"No Guns Allowed" sign will help everybody and emergency exits must be monitored at all times via security cameras and alarm system. That will also help. Problem solved!

 

[Jiro]

Come on...even though there was no sign at the front entrance, he brought guns through the emergency exit anyway.

so what's the point of "No Guns Allowed" sign then? your logic fails me.

"No Guns Allowed" sign will help everybody and emergency exits must be monitored at all times via security cameras and alarm system. That will also help. Problem solved!

problem solved? it certainly didn't help everybody like all other massacres.

 

[CrazyPaul]

so what's the point of "No Guns Allowed" sign then? your logic fails me.


problem solved? it certainly didn't help everybody like all other massacres.

Because there was no sign at the front and emergency exits were not monitored. Use your logic!

In other words, if emergency exits are monitored but there are no signs at the front, it's still unsafe since a gun owner can bring it through the front and kill people.

 

[ambrosia]

When was the last time you saw security at theater? Nobody is going to be "monitering" the exists. For the most it is completely unnecessary. The world is really not full of crazy people, but there is no shortage of stupid ones.

This theater is the same chain as the Aurora shooting, and no CCW weapons were allowed, so right there he should get a charge. He didn't just have his weapon loaded....he had one in the chamber...whats that called hot?

To me this isn't so much as a lesson about what gun laws should be. This guy passed the test and became licensed because evidently he knew the laws, he just decided to ignore them. The laws aren't the problem, people are. The masses are asses....so let's just arm the dummies.

I think it's a safe bet that he brought his gun "just in case" he needed it, because of the Aurora shooting. How stupid and paranoid is that? Obviously some of you guys own guns. Some of you guys have CCW licenses.....how many times have you guys actually needed it? Sounds more like borrowing trouble to me. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.

 

[Jiro]

Because there was no sign at the front and emergency exits were not monitored. Use your logic!

In other words, if emergency exits are monitored but there are no signs at the front, it's still unsafe since a gun owner can bring it through the front and kill people.

again..... how exactly will "No Gun Allowed" sign help prevent a massacre?

 

[Jiro]

When was the last time you saw security at theater? Nobody is going to be "monitering" the exists. For the most it is completely unnecessary. The world is really not full of crazy people, but there is no shortage of stupid ones.

This theater is the same chain as the Aurora shooting, and no CCW weapons were allowed, so right there he should get a charge. He didn't just have his weapon loaded....he had one in the chamber...whats that called hot?

To me this isn't so much as a lesson about what gun laws should be. This guy passed the test and became licensed because evidently he knew the laws, he just decided to ignore them. The laws aren't the problem, people are. The masses are asses....so let's just arm the dummies.

very simple - the dummies will be arrested, charged, and jailed. I'm all for harsher penalties to punish these kind of idiots.

I think it's a safe bet that he brought his gun "just in case" he needed it, because of the Aurora shooting. How stupid and paranoid is that?

does it matter why does a citizen want to carry a gun or not? that's not for you and I to decide.

if a person wants to drive without a seat belt, go ahead.
if a person wants to text and drive, go ahead.

what will happen is that they will get caught and ticketed.

Obviously some of you guys own guns. Some of you guys have CCW licenses.....how many times have you guys actually needed it? Sounds more like borrowing trouble to me. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.

good!!!! that's precisely what we want!!! to never have to use our gun to defend ourselves in our entire lives. that is our primary goal.