"Kiss of Deaf"

That's interesting. I wouldn't have thought about the kiss causing the woman to become deaf.

Thanks for sharing this article with us. :)
 
Wow, that is very interesting article to read. Something new for a medical causes.
 
Thanks for sharing that, Ocean!!! I sent the link for the article to all of my friends who have kids!!! Ya just never know! (I can remember doing that when I was a little kid because I thought it was funny to see people wince and say "ouch"----fortunately, I've grown out of that behavior!)
 
HMM interesting... as for the title, kiss of the deaf?? WTF wow.... very interesting medical issue... all I can say is holy crap!!!
 
LOL,, interesting Kiss the deaf is very interesting topic.. Now that something I enjoy reading about it! :smile:
 
I don't know if that is true or not. Newspaper like in Chicago are always trying to find some good or bad news so that people can be interest on the strange occurrences like the "kiss of deaf". I have never heard of that for years and years. I still think it is just bullshit when it comes to newspapers or magazines. If you want to believe that stuff, that is fine. It is just a story. Geeze. :crazy:
 
Bebonang said:
I don't know if that is true or not. Newspaper like in Chicago are always trying to find some good or bad news so that people can be interest on the strange occurrences like the "kiss of deaf". I have never heard of that for years and years. I still think it is just bullshit when it comes to newspapers or magazines. If you want to believe that stuff, that is fine. It is just a story. Geeze. :crazy:
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The Chicago Tribune is one of the most well respected newspapers in the world. If you read the story you would have seen that this has never happened before in the medical literature, and that's why you have never heard of it. It's quite an attitude to take, that if you personally have not heard of something it must not exist. Why don't you contact Dr. Reiter at Hofstra and ask if it's real? :roll:

In any case, when I read this story I just felt so sorry for the little girl. Poor thing.
 
This is an interview between the reporter at MSNBC and Dr. Levi Reiter of Hofstra University regarding to this article.

Unfortunately, there is no closed captioning on this interview. Can any one of you make an transcript? If so, That'd be very much appreciated. I'd like to be interested to see what Dr. Reiter has to say about this situation.

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Flashing back to my Typewell days...

Interviewer: A mother in LI NY was left deaf in one ear from a kiss — a kiss from her 4yo daughter. Doctors say the kiss created a suction cup-like effect, damaging the mother’s eardrum. Professor Levi Reiter is a professor of audiology at Hofstra University. I’ve never heard of such a thing. A kiss on the ear leaves damage? How does that work?

Prof. Reiter: Well, you said yourself it was suction. The eardrum is a very delicate membrane, and the eardrum is connected to three little bones, the last one of which connects the inner ear, the place where we hear. Suction will pull the eardrum out towards the lips and it will stretch those bones. There’s a little tiny ligament —

Interviewer: And you have a model here, actually, you can show us on the model how that works.

Prof. Reiter: Sure, exactly. Well, if you can see this, I’ll show you —

Interviewer: You can leave it right there —

Prof. Reiter: Here’s the ear canal, the end of the ear canal. We have the delicate eardrum. And the eardrum is connected to three little bones, the last of which some people call the stirrup —

Interviewer: I’m going to turn it a little bit like that.

Prof. Reiter: Sure. And we call it the stapes — that is like a piston, which has to push in and out of this little snail shell called the cochlea.

Interviewer: So she says that her daughter went up — and she heard the long smacking sound that you sometimes hear [makes long kiss sound], you know, the sucking sound. Are you saying that there’s a danger to let people do that near your ear? Have you ever heard of that?

Prof. Reiter: Well, actually, one time. It’s not near your ear, but if your lips are on the opening of the ear, and a kiss makes a sucking kind of…a vacuum type of an effect — and you literally pull the eardrum away from where it’s supposed to be, stretching the little bones, and what happened in her case, was that little ligament that normally attaches to the last bone was broken.

Interviewer: Wow. And that was a four-year-old, so imagine what happens if you let your husband near your ear.

Prof. Reiter: That does happen, but imagine what happens if you kiss your little babies, infants, that have a very small ear canal, and that kind of pressure can do more damage and infants of course can’t say “I can’t hear.”

Interviewer: “Ow.” Right. Oh, Professor, thank you for showing us that. Unusual story to say the least.
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Wow!!! I feel bad for the little girl. Very interesting story, though.
 
I feel sorry for the little girl too, but I think it is overlooked that at the age of this child, she wouldn't understand what she did if it wasn't repeatedly brought up that the mother's problem was her fault. So I think I feel sorry that she has a mother without the compassion to make sure her daughter did not feel at fault.
 
Thank you so much for making this transcript, Interpretrator.

That was an interesting interview. It's unheard of how this medical situation exists but yet it's amazing.
 
Bottesini said:
So I think I feel sorry that she has a mother without the compassion to make sure her daughter did not feel at fault.
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I think you're making an enormous assumption there. The kiss happened and then the mother was in great pain, and subsequently went through all that medical treatment. If you think a kid can't put that together, I'll tell you the story of how I almost broke my mother's jaw in a swimming pool when I was a tiny tyke and I remember EVERYTHING about it, including how terrible I felt.

From the original story:

Schwartzman describes the kiss as physically painful but says it has left a deeper emotional scar on her daughter. Even as she recounted details of the buss planted two years ago, the child, now 6, broke into tears, apologizing to her mom. Schwartzman requested that her daughter's name not be published.
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That quote certainly indicates concern for her daughter to me. You have no idea what goes on at home. She might spend days trying to console her daughter. It's not cool to make negative assessments about someone's parenting when you have zero information about it.
 
Interpretrator said:
I think you're making an enormous assumption there. The kiss happened and then the mother was in great pain, and subsequently went through all that medical treatment. If you think a kid can't put that together, I'll tell you the story of how I almost broke my mother's jaw in a swimming pool when I was a tiny tyke and I remember EVERYTHING about it, including how terrible I felt.

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That quote certainly indicates concern for her daughter to me. You have no idea what goes on at home. She might spend days trying to console her daughter. It's not cool to make negative assessments about someone's parenting when you have zero information about it.
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Well from the information written, I see she is doing an interview about it with the daughter present. Did you not notice that in the original article? Actually you quoted that part of the original when taking me to task.I feel that mother is irresponsible for having her daughter present at the interview to relive the event. I also notice you make very rude statements about my opinion and that of Bebonang. So are you cooler?
 
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Bottesini said:
So are you cooler?
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I'm just tired of people who make giant leaps and assumptions without any of the information. Bebonang doubted the story. You assume the woman has no compassion. Neither of you has any information to back that up. Yes, the daughter was present at the interview. That automatically means the mother has no compassion? Why was the daughter there? Any possibility she wanted to be? You DO NOT KNOW.

Forming opinions based on an objective assessment of the information you actually have is cooler than making snap judgments with no information, yes. But I know I'm fighting a losing battle about this.
 
Interpretrator said:
I'm just tired of people who make giant leaps and assumptions without any of the information. Bebonang doubted the story. You assume the woman has no compassion. Neither of you has any information to back that up. Yes, the daughter was present at the interview. That automatically means the mother has no compassion? Why was the daughter there? Any possibility she wanted to be? You DO NOT KNOW.

Forming opinions based on an objective assessment of the information you actually have is cooler than making snap judgments with no information, yes. But I know I'm fighting a losing battle about this.
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I think you are right about the losing battle. The tendency to condemn other people for their opinions in a harsh manner, is not a convincing way to change them.
 
Bottesini said:
I think you are right about the losing battle. The tendency to condemn other people for their opinions in a harsh manner, is not a convincing way to change them.
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Opinions that are based on zero information are not worth having.

But I forget that doesn't mean anything around here.
 
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