Its true look it up! "" GOD does decide whos deaf or blind."

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Look it up people im not lying about this at all!!!!
"" A quote of Exodus 20:12. You break a commandment, Conk, you get punished for it.""

The Decalogue

20:11 And God spoke all these words:2

20:2 I,3 the Lord, am your God,4 who brought you5 from the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.6

20:3 You shall have no7 other gods before me.8

20:4 You shall not make for yourself a carved image9 or any likeness10 of anything11 that is in heaven above, or that is on earth under it, or that is in the water below.12 20:5 You shall not bow down to them or serve them,13 for I, the Lord, your God, am a jealous14 God, who visits15 the iniquity of fathers on children, even to the third and fourth generations16 of those who hate me,17 20:6 but who extends faithful love18 to a thousand generations19 of those who love me and keep my commandments.

20:7 You shall not take20 the name of the Lord your God in vain,21 for the Lord will not hold guiltless22 anyone who takes his name in vain.

20:8 Remember23 the Sabbath24 day to sanctify it.25 20:9 For six days26 you may labor27 and do all your work,28 20:10 but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the Lord your God; on it29 you shall not do any work, you,30 or your son, or your daughter, or your male servant, or your female servant, or your cattle, or your resident foreigner who is in your gates.31 20:11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth and the sea and all that is in them, and he rested on the seventh day; therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and sanctified it.

20:12 Honor32 your father and your mother, that your days may be long in the land33 the Lord your God is giving to you.

20:13 You shall not murder.34

20:14 You shall not commit adultery.35

20:15 You shall not steal.36

20:16 You shall not give37 false testimony38 against your neighbor.

20:17 You shall not covet39 your neighbor’s house. You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that belongs to your neighbor.40

20:18 And all the people were seeing41 the thunderings and the lightning, and heard42 the sound of the horn, and the mountain smoking—and when43 the people saw it they trembled with fear44 and kept their distance.45 20:19 And they said to Moses, “You speak46 to us and we will listen, but do not let God speak with us, lest we die.” 20:20 And Moses said to the people, “Do not fear, for God has come to test you,47 that the fear of him48 may be before you so that you do not49 sin.” 20:21 The people kept50 their distance, but Moses drew near the thick darkness51 where God was.52

The Altar

20:2253 The Lord said54 to Moses: “Thus you will say to the Israelites: ‘You yourselves have seen that I have spoken with you from heaven. 20:23 You must not make alongside me55 gods of silver, nor make gods of gold for yourselves.56

20:24 You must make for me an altar made of earth,57 and you will sacrifice on it your burnt offerings and your peace offerings,58 your sheep and your cattle. In every place59 where I cause my name to be honored60 I will come to you and I will bless you. 20:25 And if you make me an altar of stone, you must not build it61 of hewn stone,62 for if you use your tool on it you will have defiled it.63 20:26 And you must not go up by steps to my altar, so that your nakedness is not exposed.’64

The Decisions

21:11 These are the decisions that you will set before them:

Hebrew Servants

21:22 If you buy3 a Hebrew servant,4 he is to serve you for six years, but in the seventh year he will go out free5 without paying anything.6 21:3 If he came7 in by himself8 he will go out by himself; if he had9 a wife when he comes in, then his wife will go out with him. 21:4 If his master gave10 him a wife, and she bore sons or daughters, the wife and the children will belong to her master, and he will go out by himself. 21:5 But if the servant should declare,11 ‘I love my master, and my wife, and my children; I will not go out12 free,’ 21:6 then his master will bring him to the judges,13 and he will bring him to the door, or the doorposts, and his master will bore through his ear with an awl, and he shall serve him forever.14

21:7 If a man sells his daughter15 as a female servant,16 she will not go out as the men servants do. 21:8 If she does not please17 her master, who has desired her18 for himself, then he must let her be redeemed.19 He has no right20 to sell her to a foreign nation, because he has dealt deceitfully21 with her. 21:9 And if he designated her for his son, then he will deal with her after the manner22 of daughters. 21:10 If he takes another wife,23 he must not diminish her food,24 her clothing, and her marital rights.25 21:11 And if he does not provide her with these three things, then she will go out free, without paying money.26

Personal Injuries

21:1227 Whoever strikes someone28 so that he dies29 must surely be put to death.30 21:13 But if he does not do it with premeditation,31 but it comes about by accident, then I will appoint for you a place where he may flee. 21:14 But if a man willfully attacks his neighbor to kill him with guile,32 you will take him from my altar to die.

21:15 And whoever strikes33 his father and his mother must surely be put to death.

21:16 And whoever kidnaps someone34 and sells him,35 or he is found still holding him,36 must surely be put to death.

21:17 And whoever treats his father or his mother disgracefully37 must surely be put to death.

21:18 And if men fight, and one strikes his neighbor with a stone, or with his fist, and he does not die, but must remain in bed,38 21:19 and then39 if he rises and walks about40 outside on his staff, then the one who struck him is innocent, except he must pay41 for the injured person’s42 loss of time43 and see that he is fully healed.

21:20 And if a man strikes his servant or his female servant with a rod so that he or she44 dies as a result of the blow,45 he will surely be punished.46 21:21 However, if the injured servant47 survives one or two days, the owner48 will not be punished, for he has suffered the loss.49

21:22 And if men fight and hit a pregnant woman and her child is born prematurely,50 but there is no serious injury, he will surely be punished in accordance with what the woman’s husband will put on him, and he will pay what the court decides.51 21:23 But if there is serious injury, then you will give a life for a life, 21:24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, 21:25 burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise.52

21:26 And if a man strikes the eye of his servant, or the eye of his female servant, so that he destroys it,53 he will let him go free54 for the sake of his eye. 21:27 And if he knocks out the tooth of his servant, or the tooth of his female servant, he will let him go free for the sake of the tooth.
 
Yeah, God punishs you and enforces the deafness on you because you voted for Bush and being a republican.

Seriously... Hmm, I checked the bible and it said: "Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long in the land which the LORD your God gives you." in Exodus 20:12. That was a King James Version bible for you.
 
That was Moses's law. They didn't have prison... when they were moving from egypt to israel.
 
so whats your point? that God is punishing us by making us deaf or blind? hm.. i wonder what i could have done so badly at age 18 months old to make him decide i ll have to be deaf? hm... interesting...

sorry but i dont agree with u...

heres some advice for u... ACCEPT IT! its part of you now.. deal with it :-P
 
In 1750’s, I was reincarnated with George and Martha Washington in Mount Vernon, Virginia. I was a handsome and tall male. My name was I ran away from my Mom and Dad because I always peeked into their bedroom. I was wondering why their bed always shake up and down every night. It was banged really hard against my bedroom wall. Naturally, I was intriguing to sneak into my parent’s bedroom. I was sitting and watching my Mom’s screaming and sweating all over her head. I was so upset because my Dad was on the top of her. I took at wood cane and hit my Dad’s two hairy nuts. My Dad was punishing me for harassment him. He sent me to private school.

I found an old mirror outside in the woods. I brought a small mirror and put it under the teacher’s dress. We were giggled and laughed what we saw what my teacher’s under her dress. She found a mirror and asks the student in the classroom to find out who did. The student pointed their finger at me. Teachers send me to special program like a prison with behavioral problem.

President George Washington came and visited me at the special program. President Washington could not deal with me and got me punish. He sends me to the wooden factory to make the teeth with prison people. I was escaped from prison. I rode on a horse really fast. Somehow, I was end up die by shot. I got four bullets into my coat. Well, I did not see the Indians were chasing me.

I reborn in State of Rhode Island. I am third generation Deaf family. God punished me because I was hitting a wood at my Dad’s balls. That is why, I am Deaf.

George Washington’s teeth: The dentures are made from gold, ivory, lead, human and animal teeth (horse and donkey teeth were common components).
 

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Sabrina said:
In 1750’s, I was reincarnated with George and Martha Washington in Mount Vernon, Virginia. I was a handsome and tall male. My name was I ran away from my Mom and Dad because I always peeked into their bedroom. I was wondering why their bed always shake up and down every night. It was banged really hard against my bedroom wall. Naturally, I was intriguing to sneak into my parent’s bedroom. I was sitting and watching my Mom’s screaming and sweating all over her head. I was so upset because my Dad was on the top of her. I took at wood cane and hit my Dad’s two hairy nuts. My Dad was punishing me for harassment him. He sent me to private school.

I found an old mirror outside in the woods. I brought a small mirror and put it under the teacher’s dress. We were giggled and laughed what we saw what my teacher’s under her dress. She found a mirror and asks the student in the classroom to find out who did. The student pointed their finger at me. Teachers send me to special program like a prison with behavioral problem.

President George Washington came and visited me at the special program. President Washington could not deal with me and got me punish. He sends me to the wooden factory to make the teeth with prison people. I was escaped from prison. I rode on a horse really fast. Somehow, I was end up die by shot. I got four bullets into my coat. Well, I did not see the Indians were chasing me.

I reborn in State of Rhode Island. I am third generation Deaf family. God punished me because I was hitting a wood at my Dad’s balls. That is why, I am Deaf.

George Washington’s teeth: The dentures are made from gold, ivory, lead, human and animal teeth (horse and donkey teeth were common components).

:rofl:
 
Hmm... this brings me to a few things:
  • If you are a strong follower for Republicans and Republicans are strong followers in religion, does this mean that you are a strong follower for religion? If that is the case, why do you blame God for your deafness?
  • If you blame God for your deafness, then you probably don't agree with people who are strong followers of God. If you don't agree with people who are strong followers of God, then you shouldn't be agreeing with Republicans. If that is the case, why are you supporting Bush?
All of this doesn't make sense... especially coming from you. :roll:

:Owned:
 
Where does it say God make us deaf or blind? I don't see it here.
 
Err.. No.. I don't think so because of that..

Ridcouisly....

Jesus gave you a life... no matter who r u Deaf or Blind.... what more.. to provide for Deaf needs the service and on tell God's words.. that where provide for ?

*ahem* Rave's comment quite ridcouisly.. I think you need re-read it again..
I like to ask you.. Rave... why you're Deaf?? Can you care explain me.. Oh.. let me guess.. You're punished too... That shame! Do you care?
 
VamPyroX said:
Hmm... this brings me to a few things:
  • If you are a strong follower for Republicans and Republicans are strong followers in religion, does this mean that you are a strong follower for religion? If that is the case, why do you blame God for your deafness?
  • If you blame God for your deafness, then you probably don't agree with people who are strong followers of God. If you don't agree with people who are strong followers of God, then you shouldn't be agreeing with Republicans. If that is the case, why are you supporting Bush?
All of this doesn't make sense... especially coming from you. :roll:

:Owned:
Well if you break a commandment you get punished...If you break em so often god will give you an injury.
 
ravensteve1961 said:
Well if you break a commandment you get punished...If you break em so often god will give you an injury.

What commandment did I break at age 2 before I became deaf?
 
ravensteve1961 said:
Well if you break a commandment you get punished...If you break em so often god will give you an injury.
then what have u done :eek:
 
ravensteve1961 said:
Well if you break a commandment you get punished...If you break em so often god will give you an injury.

And what commandment did Helen Keller break, pray tell?
 
Why do bad things happen to good people? Here is MY answer. Not preaching to anyone, but maybe someone will read this and it will help.


The question of "bad" things happening to "good" people is
addressed directly in the book of Job. Job believed that the
blessings or curses in a man's life should correspond to his
relationship to God; to his conduct. He could see no other
alternative in the universe of a just and righteous God. And then
God allowed HIM to be struck down. He lost everything. And
God offered no explaination at all. Only silence. Job spends his
ordeal trying to sort this impossible situation out. How could this
be? How could a righteous man be subject to such pain and
suffering?

You and I may have never verbalized it, but the chances are,
we believe exactly what Job believed: The believer should
prosper and the unbeliever should not. The good should be
blessed and the wicked cursed. You and I almost demand that
this be so in the present world. That is our idea of justice, and it
surely must be God's idea of justice.

Job had to learn a lesson which we all have to learn. That is
why the Book of Job is written -- to instruct us in that regard.
God is telling us that our conduct guarantees us nothing in this
world. It will not necessarily spare us suffering and pain. It will
not even guarantee us the blessings we want. There is only one
thing our trust in God guarantees us: The will of God. If we
believe God, and then obey Him, we will have His will. We will
have exactly what He wants us to have, no more and no less.
Now ask: What more could we want? Job got the will of God.
Indeed, he actually BECAME the will of God. He saw God in a
light which he never knew existed. It was an eternal result from a
temporary suffering. And if that is what God wants do to in us,
why would we want to refuse Him?

Why Doesn't God Intervene?

The refusal to accept a God who allows pain and suffering is,
of course, rooted in some ignorance. Once I assume that this
present age is "normal," or that God actually created it this way,
then of course I can then blame God for pain and suffering. But
the Truth is, God did not create this world to operate the way it is
operating. This present age is the consequence of man's
rebellion against God. It is the result of man living independent
of His Creator.

So why did God let all of that happen? Indeed, if He is really
loving, why doesn't He intervene and stop it all?
He has. He sent His Son to bear the sin of the world. He now
says to us, "I want to save you out of all of this. My Son is the
Way. Believe and receive Him."

The reason some have trouble with this is that all of the
benefits are not immediate. Becoming a Christian, as
mentioned, does not immediately rapture you to heaven, or
elevate you to a place free from pain and suffering. But as
Christians, we need to get it settled once and for all: God's
purpose and plan are not limited to THIS age. This age is
preliminary. It is UNTO another realm where the reality of what
Jesus has done WILL be realized.

An agnostic will have no frame of reference for this Truth.
That is why it is usually pointless to argue about it with some.
But the people of God should have it straight: God is NOT trying
to fix this age. He is not trying to bring reform. Not politically or
in any other fashion. He sent Jesus to save us OUT OF this age.
And even at that, we will not realize the fullness of that salvation
until Jesus Christ returns to earth.

If God Did Prevent Pain and Suffering

Let's assume, for a moment, that God did continually
intervene in this world to prevent all pain and suffering. What
kind of a world would that be?
First of all, we would have a world of immortal human beings.
Afterall, death cannot occur without pain and suffering of some
type, whether it be on the part of those who die, or on the part of
those left behind. So God would have to make sure no one ever
died, for any reason.

This would then require several things. First, it would require
that God prevent all accidents from happening. That would
mean He would have to suspend physical laws ever time we
broke them. He have to make gravity stop working so we would
not fall, or He'd have to keep cars from crashing so we would not
be injured. Thus, we'd have a world where physical laws would
really not exist. The moment injury was possible, the natural
laws would not work. God would have to see to it.

Complicating matters is the fact that physical laws are not at
fault in many accidents. Some accidents are the result of human
error and choice. Therefore, if someone chooses to be negligent
or reckless, resulting in their injury, or in the injury of some other
person, God would have to stop them. He would have to literally
grab them and make it impossible for them to choose.
Here we see the issue of free will emerging. If God intervened
to prevent all pain and suffering in this world, He would have to
take away from us our free will.

This is especially evident once you are asked to define pain
and suffering. How about the pain of having someone you love
reject you? Should God intervene and prevent that? How? He'd
have to literally get into the mind of the other person and make
them choose differently. How about the pain of losing out on a
job opening? That is pain to some people. Should God see to it
that you get the job? How about the other person? Should He
make a way for both of you to get it?

And then, of course, there is war. And crime. God would
have to come down and force nations to stop fighting, and keep
human beings from breaking the law. Indeed, take this argument
to it's logical conclusion, and to prevent all suffering God would
have to make it impossible for us to sin -- not only outwardly,
but inwardly.

The kind of world which would exist if God prevented all pain
and suffering is not a world in which human beings could exist.
There would be no free will and no physical laws. There would
be no consequences for sin. It would be a world of physical,
moral, and spiritual chaos.
 
so you are deaf or blind...BIG deal! it's not like you are going to live for a very short time like that.

Beetovean was deaf, but not born deaf and he still continues to make music, and he was still doing fine.

Hellen Keller was deaf and blind due to a high fever at a very young age, but was quickly learned to catch "information" by using "fingure writing" when a person "writes" on her hands. she learned to "write" better like a regular person when she was older.

Ray Charles was blind at a young age, but was an expert at keying the piano and producing music.

Just because your deaf or blind doesn't mean your life is gonna be a total disaster...so quit feeling sorry for yourself and just do what you wanna do with your life.
 
DavLaurel said:
And what commandment did Helen Keller break, pray tell?
She probily took the lords name in vain over 100,000 times and god said,,,,THATS ENOUGH!!!! So He made her deaf.
 
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