Islamic terrorists kill 12 in Paris

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CrazyPaul said:
:laugh2: If he knows how to stop, no problem.
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Trust me, he will listen if we treat him fair and I'm good friend with him. ;)
 
"French news media reported a major police operation was taking place around an apartment building in Reims, about 90 miles northeast of Paris, and that police believe one or more of the attackers might be inside the building."


^^^ from usatoday.com.
 
Foxrac said:
Trust me, he will listen if we treat him fair and I'm good friend with him. ;)
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You mean if we agree with him even we don't want to, he will shut up? What happen if we don't disagree with him? I don't know about you and others but I am telling you that I will not treat him fair if he doesn't treat me fair. Are you fine with that?
 
Foxrac said:
No, it means you shouldn't argue with him and let mod deal with it.
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Oh well, you ask me not to argue with him, that means he wins. I can't allow it to happen when his comment is irrelevant.

Stupid me, stupid me...I should have ignored him like I told other people to ignore what they don't like to hear. So you are right. Moving on...
 
In the latest issue of Dabiq (ISIS publication) they mentioned that they had a French target in mind:
as conveyed by its spokesman, Shaykh Abū Muhammad al-‘Adnānī. “If you can kill a disbelieving American or European – especially the spiteful and filthy French – or an Australian, or a Canadian, or any other disbeliever from the disbelievers waging war, including the citizens of the countries that entered into a coalition against the Islamic State, then rely upon Allah, and kill him in any manner or way however it may be. Do not ask for anyone’s advice and do not seek anyone’s verdict” [Indeed Your Lord Is Ever Watchful].

There will be others who follow the examples set by Man Haron Monis and Numan Haider in Australia, Martin Couture-Rouleau and Michael Zehaf- Bibeau in Canada, Zale Thompson in America, and Bertrand Nzohabonayo in France, and all that the West will be able to do is to anxiously await the next round of slaughter and then issue the same tired, cliché statements in condemnation of it when it occurs. The Muslims will continue to defy the kāfir war machine, flanking the crusaders on their own streets and bringing the war back to their own soil.
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link:

http://worldanalysis.net/14/2014/12/dabiq-issue-6-al-qaidah-waziristan-testimony-within/

issue 6 page 4
 
The thread isn't a question about gun control IN FRANCE. If there is any politics to it at all, it's about free speech in France. Which, I might add, does not have anything to do with U.S. laws.

Steinhaurer, you don't know my view, but the people whom you state have not answered have answered it. So, I'll address that here, they do not feel that giving people guns will change the situation. And, in this case, there was an armed officer personally protecting someone who was killed. Those people, whom I do not know, seem to feel that arming the victims would not have saved them.

Again, U.S. laws do not apply to France. And, a debate about U.S. laws is off-topic.

Would you like to discuss Freedom of the Press as it applies to France? It might not get anyone banned, but it's on topic.


Steinhauer said:
You deflected from the question. It was a valid question that has never been fully answered by people who hold your view.

If it is an uncomfortable question, then don't answer it. But don't make the question about me and my gun, I know full and well that it isn't about me and my gun. It is about the progressive ideology of a non-violent utopia that is downright delusional. Why are people in your camp attempting to force this delusional crap on everyone else?
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From cnn:

"But it won't stop Charlie Hebdo. Pelloux told BFMTV that thousands of copies of magazine will be published next Wednesday."
 
I'll bet the magazine's print copies(if any) will sell out in a day.

No word on the arrest at the gas station.
 
A lot of Northern France institutions have banned head scarfs. It doesn't seem like a sympathetic area, but that is were they were spotted. I would think they would gravitate towards a sympathetic area. Perhaps the are trying to get out of the circle.

Lots of units in the North now.
 
Officials have a problem searching for the suspects in areas of France known as "no-go" neighborhoods. Those are areas where the Muslim population doesn't allow non-Muslims to enter, and are ruled by Sharia laws.

Muslims segregated from French society in growing Islamist mini-states

By Rowan Scarborough - The Washington Times - Wednesday, January 7, 2015

A backdrop to the massacre in Paris on Wednesday by self-professed al Qaeda terrorists is that city officials have increasingly ceded control of heavily Muslim neighborhoods to Islamists, block by block.

France has Europe's largest population of Muslims, some of whom talk openly of ruling the country one day and casting aside Western legal systems for harsh, Islam-based Shariah law.

"The situation is out of control, and it is not reversible," said Soeren Kern, an analyst at the Gatestone Institute and author of annual reports on the "Islamization of France."

"Islam is a permanent part of France now. It is not going away," Mr. Kern said. "I think the future looks very bleak. The problem is a lot of these younger-generation Muslims are not integrating into French society. Although they are French citizens, they don't really have a future in French society. They feel very alienated from France. This is why radical Islam is so attractive because it gives them a sense of meaning in their life."

While not a complete safe-haven for al Qaeda-type operatives, Paris and other French cities have become more fertile places for Muslim extremists in the past decade. City leaders have allowed virtual Islamic mini-states to thrive as Muslims gain power to govern in their own way.

"There are no-go areas not just in Paris, but all over France, where they are effectively in control," said Robert Spencer, who directs JihadWatch.org, a nonprofit that monitors Muslim extremists.

"They're operating with impunity, apparently secure in the knowledge that authorities cannot or will not act decisively to stop them," he said. "And with the universal denial and obfuscation of the clear motive for the Charlie Hebdo attack, they have good reason to think that."

The attackers who killed 12 people at the offices of the satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo claimed to be members of al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula in Yemen. Witnesses said they spoke perfect French, a strong indication that they are homegrown terrorists who received help from AQAP or another group.

Mr. Kern said the connection between the attack and the Islamization movement is that French jihadis are becoming bolder in trying to stamp out any criticism of Islam.

"What they are trying to do is shut down any sort of criticism of Islam, any sort of speech, cartoons, discussion, anything," he said. "Essentially, the French government and the other European governments have lost control over the situation. It's a snowball that is growing bigger and bigger, in particular over the past 10 years."

Last year, AQAP put Charlie Hebdo editor and cartoonist Stephane Charbonnier on a "Most Wanted" poster for lampooning the Prophet Muhammad. He was among the 12 killed by hooded assailants firing assault rifles Wednesday morning at a weekly staff gathering.

The Middle East Media Research Institute reported that French jihadis on Twitter were openly chattering about how to retaliate against Charlie Hebdo for its comic book biography of Muhammad. One idea was to immediately start killing French nationals.

While French jihadis were plotting a wave of violence, Mr. Kern and the Gatestone Institute issued a report on the Islamization of France in 2013, and a follow-up in December.

The think tank, led by John R. Bolton, former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, said the country's Muslim population last year reached 6.5 million, or 10 percent of its 66 million people. That makes France the European country with the largest Muslim minority.

Some Muslim activists gleefully predict that France will be a Muslim-majority country in the not-too-distant future.

"Who has the right to say that France in 30 or 40 years will not be a Muslim country? Who has the right in this country to deprive us of it?" said Marwan Muhammed, a spokesman for Collective Against Islamophobia in France.

Gatestone reports that an intelligence document leaked to Le Figaro said Muslims are creating a separate public school society "completely cut off from non-Muslim students."

Over 1,000 French supermarkets are selling Islamic books that call for jihad and the killing of non-Muslims. A poll commissioned by the newspaper Le Monde last year found that 74 percent of French citizens view Islam as intolerant and as incompatible with French values.

Some French politicians are speaking out.

French Prime Minister Manuel Valls said last year, "We are fighting terrorism outside of France, but we are also fighting an internal enemy since there are those French who fit into this process of radicalization. This enemy must be fought with the greatest determination."

Said Mr. Kern, "Europe is very committed to multiculturalism. So any speech critical of Islam is immediately branded as being Islamophobic or racist or something like that. There's not really an honest debate about what's going on in Europe because the European elite have so much invested in this multicultural society that they're trying to build."
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French-Islamist mini states
 
Reba said:
Officials have a problem searching for the suspects in areas of France known as "no-go" neighborhoods. Those are areas where the Muslim population doesn't allow non-Muslims to enter, and are ruled by Sharia laws.
French-Islamist mini states
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What? Is it saying that law enforcements can't go there to find suspects?
 
CrazyPaul said:
What? Is it saying that law enforcements can't go there to find suspects?
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don't be silly. they can if they want to but it's a sensitive time and it would be in Muslim community's best interest to cooperate. if the community was found to be aiding and abetting shooters.... the future would not bode well for the community and it may result in regaining French control of the community.
 
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