Is true that deaf people with at least 180 IQ who go Ivy League?

Steinhauer said:
Matajan, I was misdiagnosed with Aspergers because I am HoH with high IQ. I display many of the characteristics of someone with Aspergers, but I was proven not to have it.

- difficult in social interactions (I was mainstreamed, couldn't hear what my hearing peers were saying - of course I had problems interacting - duh).

- atypical use of language (I pronounced things the way I read them, I couldn't understand how others pronounced words - because I am HoH - duh).

- Lacked empathy with peers (I couldn't understand their tone of voice so I couldn't understand how they were feeling because I am HoH - duh.)

- Limited social activities ( I didn't watch TV with my brother and sisters because when I was a kid, there were no Closed Captions - I couldn't hear what was being said, got bored and read a lot - because I am HoH - duh.)
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This happen to a lot of deaf and HOH kids in the 40's and 50's , they where
misdiagnosed as being crazy or retarded! A lot was not done for kids that had Aspergers then.
I am glad people realize that you were HOH! People thought I was retarded!
 
matajan said:
It is error. My IQ test is 167. Many people said I am very genius in different talent at csd and intellctual level above of gallaudet students. Some friends recongize me who is better than other because I took prepratory school with 3.63 gpa. And accepted into ivy league before.
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:liar:
 
Well, Matajan. You have created multiple threads of Ivy League colleges, IQs, and overachieving girls lately. No matter how many threads you will create, you will never get satisfied until the online answer you really want to see that will never exist. I predict you will ignore my post after you don't like my suggestion-- your frustration level will go up and up.

I do not know any deaf who has at least 180 IQ. My hearing friend has 181 IQ. He usually reads around 150-200 books a year. He did not have to go to any Ivy League college at all. He's got an undergraduate and a graduate degree from National University in California. He struggles with his writing skills due to dyslexic. He often asks friends/workers to correct his grammars when it comes to his job. He is not even embarrassed about it.

FYI- I went to a coed preparatory college.
 
Barbaro said:
Well, Matajan. You have created multiple threads of Ivy League colleges, IQs, and overachieving girls lately. No matter how many threads you will create, you will never get satisfied until the online answer you really want to see that will never exist. I predict you will ignore my post after you don't like my suggestion-- your frustration level will go up and up.

I do not know any deaf who has at least 180 IQ. My hearing friend has 181 IQ. He usually reads around 150-200 books a year. He did not have to go to any Ivy League college at all. He's got an undergraduate and a graduate degree from National University in California. He struggles with his writing skills due to dyslexic. He often asks friends/workers to correct his grammars when it comes to his job. He is not even embarrassed about it.

FYI- I went to a coed preparatory college.
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We'll never be able to give Matajan the answer he is looking for , this part of him having asperger or autism , they get obsessed with things and will ask the same thing over and over. It remind of person having alzheimer, they keep telling or asking you the same thing all the time. Matajan need to go to someone that understand asperger or autism and ask them these questions!
 
He also needs help from his roommates or RA's or teachers.
 
True. Matajan stated that he has Asperger. I'd rather him go to the organization and ask for help from professionals in person. He needs to find a good role model he will look up and take advices from.

Asperger may be considered a mild form of autism. However, that is still debatable. My niece has Asperger, and is extremely friendly. As for Matajan, I believe that they haven't taught him social skills when he was younger.

I wonder if Matajan liked to spin around when he was younger. Autistic children like to spin or spin a wheel because they find it comfort. They are also visual thinkers.
 
matajan said:
It is error. My IQ test is 167. Many people said I am very genius in different talent at csd and intellctual level above of gallaudet students. Some friends recongize me who is better than other because I took prepratory school with 3.63 gpa. And accepted into ivy league before.
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Matajan - that doesn't even make sense!!

if you REALLY had an IQ of 167 , or even 127 you'd be getting a much higher GPA than a 3.63 (which isn't a high GPA at all)
 
IQ scores and one's Grade Point Average do not necessarily have a direct correlation to each other.

For example, I self-tested at 155. I had a 0.8 GPA at the time. This was back in my teens and we all know how unreliable those tests are in showing academic/career success. Okay, maybe not all of us, but those who are in the know, do.

Fast-forward a decade or so later... I got older and dumber, but graduated Summa Cum Laude with a masters degree. I honestly think my IQ is around the 110 mark on a good day. You don't need a high IQ to get a 4.0... Maybe the saying of, "The more you know, the less you know" is true... Either way, I put NO stock in IQ test scores these days.

I will however admit that getting my degrees were a walk in the park and never understood why my peers had study groups and stressed all the time. I must have had a lot of good days. :D

-Paul
 
Barbaro said:
Well, Matajan. You have created multiple threads of Ivy League colleges, IQs, and overachieving girls lately. No matter how many threads you will create, you will never get satisfied until the online answer you really want to see that will never exist. I predict you will ignore my post after you don't like my suggestion-- your frustration level will go up and up.

I do not know any deaf who has at least 180 IQ. My hearing friend has 181 IQ. He usually reads around 150-200 books a year. He did not have to go to any Ivy League college at all. He's got an undergraduate and a graduate degree from National University in California. He struggles with his writing skills due to dyslexic. He often asks friends/workers to correct his grammars when it comes to his job. He is not even embarrassed about it.

FYI- I went to a coed preparatory college.
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I don't think my IQ is anywhere near 180 but I used to read that many books when I was younger. School has always been hard for me - not just because of my deafness but also because I had an undx'd case of ADD.
 
This has nothing to do with deaf people. BUT I'd like to point out the HARVARD is #4 on this list LOL

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Recently, PayScale.com released a report on the highest salary potential among the nation's top colleges, and from this data, colleges and universities can be ranked by the mid-career median salaries of its graduates. For schools with the same mid-career median salaries, starting median salary determines their relative rank.


1. Harvey Mudd College

Mid-career median salary: $126,000
Starting median salary: $68,900

Location: Claremont, Calif.
2010-2011 tuition: $40,390
College rank: 18 (Liberal Arts)
Acceptance rate: 34%
Total undergrad enrollment: 757

2. Princeton University

Mid-career median salary: $123,000
Starting median salary: $58,900

Location: Princeton, N.J.
2010-2011 tuition: $36,640
College rank: 2 (National)
Acceptance rate: 10%
Total undergrad enrollment: 5,113

3. Dartmouth College

Mid-career median salary: $123,000
Starting median salary: $54,100

Location: Hanover, N.H.
2010-2011 tuition: $40,437
College rank: 9 (National)
Acceptance rate: 13%
Total undergrad enrollment: 4,196

4. Harvard University

Mid-career median salary: $121,000
Starting median salary: $57,300

Location: Cambridge, Mass.
2010-2011 tuition: $38,416
College rank: 1 (National)
Acceptance rate: 7%
Total undergrad enrollment: 6,655

5. California Institute of Technology (CalTech)

Mid-career median salary: $120,000
Starting median salary: $69,900

Location: Pasadena, Calif.
2010-2011 tuition: $36,282
College rank: 7 (National)
Acceptance rate: 15%
Total undergrad enrollment: 951

6. Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)

Mid-career median salary: $119,000
Starting median salary: $68,300

Location: Cambridge, Mass.
2010-2011 tuition: $39,212
College rank: 7 (National)
Acceptance rate: 11%
Total undergrad enrollment: 4,232

7. Stanford University

Mid-career median salary: $119,000
Starting median salary: $60,200

Location: Stanford, Calif.
2010-2011 tuition: $39,201
College rank: 5 (National)
Acceptance rate: 8%
Total undergrad enrollment: 6,602

8. Colgate University

Mid-career median salary: $119,000
Starting median salary: $48,700

Location: Hamilton, N.Y.
2010-2011 tuition: $41,870
College rank: 21 (Liberal Arts)
Acceptance rate: 32%
Total undergrad enrollment: 2,825
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Juli-terp-to-be said:
This has nothing to do with deaf people. BUT I'd like to point out the HARVARD is #4 on this list LOL

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I realize it seems a bit touché-ish, but weighting by the amount of money they earn, judging it from the college they graduated from should not be the right way to associate the variables. It can't even be a considered a reliable study since nothing is actually being tested to prove anything - dependent variables, controls, and so on.

If someone wanted to, they could disprove the payscale by adding fairly liberal colleges and such to realize some of the graduates are gung-ho on greenpeace of world "activistism", where even the professor focus on working for nonprofit. It may be a similar cycle going on with the other colleges, which kinda nullifies the point of the article.. Did you notice the median is only a $5k difference in terms of rank?
 
naisho said:
I realize it seems a bit touché-ish, but weighting by the amount of money they earn, judging it from the college they graduated from should not be the right way to associate the variables. It can't even be a considered a reliable study since nothing is actually being tested to prove anything - dependent variables, controls, and so on.

If someone wanted to, they could disprove the payscale by adding fairly liberal colleges and such to realize some of the graduates are gung-ho on greenpeace of world "activistism", where even the professor focus on working for nonprofit. It may be a similar cycle going on with the other colleges, which kinda nullifies the point of the article.. Did you notice the median is only a $5k difference in terms of rank?
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True, but I wanted to prove to Matajan that it's not always Harvard or an Ivy League school that will get you where you want to go. It's hard work and perseverance, not the school or IQ level. But then again he/she has discounted me because of my IQ level already. Matajan will not learn from me.:dunno:
 
Yep, get what you're trying to show him.
He's hardheaded, but atleast he is honest on his opinions at the very least.

He reminds me of the pringles commercial - once he pops his question, he don't stop.
 
naisho said:
Yep, get what you're trying to show him.
He's hardheaded, but atleast he is honest on his opinions at the very least.

He reminds me of the pringles commercial - once he pops his question, he don't stop.
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LOL now I can't eat Pringles anymore! Gee thanks
 
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