Is spanking on the kids belong kind of abuse?

I tried the time out method...never worked for my daughter. I tried the take away privliges...that never worked either. I think i tried everything under the sun. The only way i was ever able to get through to her was by giving her a spanking. Sometimes thats the only thing that works with certain kids, like my daughter. I think it has a lot to due with the fact that she is a very stubborn child...it's her way or no way! Even the spanking dose'nt work all the time. You should'nt abuse your child but sometimes some kids need a good pat on their behinds. Then again there parents like my sister that all they have to do is give their child THE LOOK and that's all it takes. She never once laid a finger on her kids. I tried the look thing on my daughter and all i got was the look back. Her pediatrician tells me "it's hard now but she will not let anyone walk over her later in life" Ok, so just about another 15 or 20 years of this.:jaw:
 
Askjo said:
Yes, I was spanking with a paddle by the principal at a deaf school when I was a young student. My parents used them to spank me many times. I will spank my child with a rod. Do you know that the Bible demands a rod?
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Do you know that it´s religion author who wrote the bible?

I do not listen what the bible says. I can´t image that Jesus want every parents use rod to spank on children.
 
Buckdodgers said:
Spanking Kids is Disapline..Its says it in the Bible
SPARE THE ROD AND SPOIL THE CHILD
Dont listen to psychiatrists telling you spanking and whipping the child will affect him later in life. LOOK AT OUR SOCIETY TODAY!! Is Fucked up !! Crime is out off line,,Kids are bring guns and weapons in school.Kids are doing drugs and hanging out with gangs. Giving him a TIME OUT IS BULLSHIT!! Back in the 1950s Kids respected one another.Kids didnt bring guns or weapons to school back in the 50s.Kids didnt do drugs or join gangs back in the 50s.Wanna know why Society is Fucked up today? ITS LIBERALISM! I Say BRING BACK SPANKING!!!!
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I listen psychiatists, not bible. :)
 
Oceanbreeze said:
And, as to what you said to Eve, please don't criticise her for using a book by Dobson. I actually have spoken to her, and I have seen how she disciplines her kids, and trust me, they are healthy children.While she does apply corporal punishment when necessary, she doesn't beat her kids mercilessly. She uses loss of priveledges with her kids more than any other method. I've seen her in action. She's a good Mom!
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I only see what deafdyke voice her opinion what she think about a book, not criticise Eve´s opinion. I can´t see anything wrong when Deafdyke has different view about a book as Eve...
 
Buckdodgers said:
Spanking Kids is Disapline..Its says it in the Bible
SPARE THE ROD AND SPOIL THE CHILD
Dont listen to psychiatrists telling you spanking and whipping the child will affect him later in life. LOOK AT OUR SOCIETY TODAY!! Is Fucked up !! Crime is out off line,,Kids are bring guns and weapons in school.Kids are doing drugs and hanging out with gangs. Giving him a TIME OUT IS BULLSHIT!! Back in the 1950s Kids respected one another.Kids didnt bring guns or weapons to school back in the 50s.Kids didnt do drugs or join gangs back in the 50s.Wanna know why Society is Fucked up today? ITS LIBERALISM! I Say BRING BACK SPANKING!!!!
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It's not true, there's alot of crime in 1950's and gangs problem like Italian mob and Latin King are existing for long time. Children in 1950's are still bad, same thing compared to today and children have different behavior from adult.

The murder per population in USA is much lower in 2006 than in 1950.
 
It's depends on different kind of children's behavior, spanking is fine for kids who fighting, disrespect, break objects like DVD, TV or whatever, throw food or spill drink on parent, play around during bedtime, run away from parent and something to make mistake. I will rather to spank with belt, that it...

There's different of punishment for kids than spank does like time-out, lose their privileges, doing chores, discuss between kids and parent, no desserts and some more.
 
Reba said:
Spanking is not abuse if done properly.

Properly done means not done in anger, not done too harshly.

Properly means doing more often for the younger child, and tapering off as the need decreases.

Properly means making a direct connection between the punishment and the offense.

Properly means using other methods of discipline when possible.

Spanking is not "violence" if it is done without screaming, and in a restricted, self-controlled way.

Losing privileges works only if the child values those privileges. Otherwise, it is "so what?"

Discipline also depends on the individual child's personality. Some kids whither at just a raised eyebrow from the parent. Others are very resiliant rebels and require stronger methods such as repeated spanking and restriction. The method has to fit the child.

In general, spanking is not abuse.
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I agree... good posting...
 
starrygaze said:
"rod" punishment is wrong. but we are treated with new Age. we can't spank our children anymore. it makes our kids to hate us.
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I was spanked as a child, and I don't "hate" my parents for it.

None of the adults that I know now who were spanked (not beaten) as children ever hated their parents.

I spanked my daughter when she was little, and she (now an adult) doesn't hate me. She spanked her boys, and they don't hate her.

There is a big difference between disciplinary spanking and vicious beating.
 
jazzy said:
I do not believe Jesus was every spanked by his parents with rod or hands.
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Jesus was sinless; he obeyed His parents, and never rebelled, so he never needed any discipline or punishment.
 
I havent read most of the threads in this, but here is my opinion, and the lagal defination for Discipling your child in the state of MO. State law says that a parent or guardian may phyically discipline a child by spanking with an open hand on the butt, as long as the spanking does not leave bruises. I agree with that, at face value.
BUT, I have also seen many times when a kid needs and deserves a good old fashion ass beating. When a child tries to intimidate a parent or phycically attack a parent, that kids needs to get his ass kicked!
I have been on all sides of the issue, As a small child I was physically abused by my biological father, that I have since disowned. He litterally put me in the hospital from his abuse. I have also been properly disciplined by my mom. My stepdad hit me once, in the jaw. I am the first person to say that I was in the wrong and deserved it. This was not abuse. I had just gotten in trouble for doing something really stupid and he just picked me up at the police station. 'nuff said.
If you chose to physically discipline your child, please use common sense. Make the punishment fit the crime. And NEVER spank a child when you are angry. Based on my observations in child abuse investigations, this is the major circumstance that gets most well meaning parent into trouble. Send em to thier room unti lyou settle down. Then when you are thinking rationally, figure out what type of punishmnet is accpetable.
 
Lillys dad"" Youre a cop right? What did the laws Say Prior to 1975? I was welped acrossed the back by the belt by my dad.I want to my doctor for a check up and I took my shirt off showed it to him and he said Who did this to you? I said My dad,,He told me put the shirt back on checked my out some more and then he called my mother into his office and BOY I knew what was that about..And Mom took me in the car and Yelled at me by saying YOU DARE!!!! YOUR DARE PULL THAT SHIT AGAIN AND I WILL SEE TO IT YOULL BE IN YOUR ROOM FOR A MONTH I bet the Doc told her if i see it again im calling the police.Well mom never took me back to that doctor ever again..Ansd Cops didnt pay a visit to my house nether.So What is the Law on this?
 
Reba said:
I was spanked as a child, and I don't "hate" my parents for it.

None of the adults that I know now who were spanked (not beaten) as children ever hated their parents.

I spanked my daughter when she was little, and she (now an adult) doesn't hate me. She spanked her boys, and they don't hate her.

There is a big difference between disciplinary spanking and vicious beating.
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Disagree:

I know the difference.
 
Lillys dad said:
I havent read most of the threads in this, but here is my opinion, and the lagal defination for Discipling your child in the state of MO. State law says that a parent or guardian may phyically discipline a child by spanking with an open hand on the butt, as long as the spanking does not leave bruises. I agree with that, at face value.
BUT, I have also seen many times when a kid needs and deserves a good old fashion ass beating. When a child tries to intimidate a parent or phycically attack a parent, that kids needs to get his ass kicked!
I have been on all sides of the issue, As a small child I was physically abused by my biological father, that I have since disowned. He litterally put me in the hospital from his abuse. I have also been properly disciplined by my mom. My stepdad hit me once, in the jaw. I am the first person to say that I was in the wrong and deserved it. This was not abuse. I had just gotten in trouble for doing something really stupid and he just picked me up at the police station. 'nuff said.
If you chose to physically discipline your child, please use common sense. Make the punishment fit the crime. And NEVER spank a child when you are angry. Based on my observations in child abuse investigations, this is the major circumstance that gets most well meaning parent into trouble. Send em to thier room unti lyou settle down. Then when you are thinking rationally, figure out what type of punishmnet is accpetable.
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It´s an exactly what I had through... I know what it alike... terrible! and hurt!

please use common sense. Make the punishment fit the crime. And NEVER spank a child when you are angry.
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:gpost:
 
Reba said:
Jesus was sinless; he obeyed His parents, and never rebelled, so he never needed any discipline or punishment.
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Really?
Not when he disappeared from his parents during passover when he was a boy. His mother Mary was upset with him and she did not spank him.
 
jazzy said:
Really?
Not when he disappeared from his parents during passover when he was a boy. His mother Mary was upset with him and she did not spank him.
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Mary and Joseph didn't tell Jesus not to go to the temple. They just assumed He was still with their entourage. If anything, they were somewhat negligent about His whereabouts.

After Mary and Joseph found Jesus at the temple, "He [Jesus] went down with them, and came to Nazareth, and was subject unto them ." So, Jesus was obedient to His Heavenly Father (at the temple), and His earthly parents (at Nazareth). :)
 
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