Is it Better to Quit or Be Fired?

[Opal]

I got a sack from my old job after working there for 6 weeks trial, and I was told NEVER to tell any future jobs about it because it will make my resume look bad!!

I used to work for the Department of Employment in England, and if anyone volunteering to quit their jobs, they cannot claim unemployment benefit money for the first six weeks except on very rare cases.

Most people got the sack for being late eg 5 minutes late for a month in the UK, some got very silly reasons as I read their Boss's lame excuses letters.

In Australia if anyone got the sack, most of them sue their boss for unfair dismissal. Bosses don't really like to sack them unless they get a third letter warnings!!

I would recommend anyone to job-hunting around first and if your lucky to find one, and then terminate your job to save the headache of being unemployment.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

I vote "not sure"

Nancy, first of all I would like to know how long you work for them?


1. Go to legal adviser or lawyer for their advice if you feel being treat wrong by them or doubt over their work legal rights if the resolvement with your employer are not work. (if you dont want to lose your job there).

2. You know that there're alway friendly nor unfriendly people around. All what you do is accept what they are.

3. You don't have to change for them but stay what you are but has to follow their rule in legal way.

I work at same place for almost 20 years and accept what the people are because I know every person have different personaility. I get on with them because I accept what they are as they do the same with me.

Keep your thought positive.

 

[GalaxyAngel]

I'd rather NOT fired if suppose fired... Gonna be written on your record due replaution... errr.. *cough* No Thanks!

I'd rather quit kept clean my nose record better ways....

If suppose you're working there for 6 mos or more... will get EI. Depends companies can giving you record but not all of'em.

Fired you... There's no EI because why your repluation really uglier.... Depend Innocent case, really takes you seriouis and make action the legal the court as file human rights takes about 7mos to 1 year Depends the seriouis case.

 

[diehardbiker]

FYI, clarification in United States Labor law. No employer can write record wheather your fired, or lay off or even you quit and release that information WITHOUT your written consent. All employer is allowed to say, you work starting this date, and end that date. PERIOD. UNLESS you give consent to your employer to release the information whatever happened between you and employer. Don't you know if you have evidence that employer released the information why you lost position and that and you never gave them consent, you CAN sue that employer in civil court for punitive damages! Whats more, I found out that most states DO allow employer to fire for no reason! The only time they can NOT fire you based on these protected classes (Discrimination, etc).

Today, most companies are looking for potential employees that is called "Problem solver". They wanted employee to be able to work and solve problem on their own. If you quit, it exhibit your next employer that you are NOT willing to solve the problem.

I don't know what you all think, but I have WITNESS and EXPERIENCED myself how this goes! I got fired and had NO problem finding other job, so do my friends who got fired too and had NO problem finding another job. WHILE other people I know walked off or quit is now still struggling trying to find another job!!!

 

[diehardbiker]

Since your in Socialism, so I don't know what is best way to handle. Government controls part of the companies. So, there may be reasons behind that. Here in America is pure capitalism, meaning government don't have much control over companies and they are free to do business whatever they want to.

I'd rather NOT fired if suppose fired... Gonna be written on your record due replaution... errr.. *cough* No Thanks!

I'd rather quit kept clean my nose record better ways....

If suppose you're working there for 6 mos or more... will get EI. Depends companies can giving you record but not all of'em.

Fired you... There's no EI because why your repluation really uglier.... Depend Innocent case, really takes you seriouis and make action the legal the court as file human rights takes about 7mos to 1 year Depends the seriouis case.

 

[Mookie]

I told my current supervisor at the interview that I AIN'T quitter and will do everything to work down on the problem. Guess what? I got hired! As of last Tueday I am an offical employee of my work! I can't say I am hired 3 months ago because first 90 days are considered as probation employee and not a regular employee. So, now I am regular employee, YAYAYAY!

Really this is short version of story. The real story is much longer than that. Anyway, most companies hates quitters. I have a guy who I warned him NOT to quit. He quit his job last November. Since Last November, did he find another job? Unfortunately NO! He did tried to apply position at my work and my supervisor turned him away! That is because my supervisor HATES quitter! Another good friend of mine got fired from a machine shop last June, He did tried to solve the problem but didn't quit until he got fired. A week later, he got another better job! So, if you have problem with your supervisor, I recommend NOT to quit, keep trying to solve problem until your boss quits on you. While keeping trying to solve problem you could look for job elsewhere.

For public sector, there is no althernative to obtain new positions for terminated before in same government. It would be better to quit rather than be terminated. It is not easy to get any government positions that any supervisor would check with government record (HR) dept. It is not easy to get any federal government jobs except elected positions. However, a person who was terminated from federal government can be hired at any another levels of government. I.E., either is local or state government. I strongly recommend anybody in public sector to transfer/look for another exciting opening position. Do not be a terminated public servant...

For private sector, it is your decision to be terminated rather than quitting.

A few of my career experiences in private sector, I have quitted some companies and they hired me with no problem at all since I have given good reasonable answers...

 

[Liebling:-)))]

FYI, clarification in United States Labor law. No employer can write record wheather your fired, or lay off or even you quit and release that information WITHOUT your written consent. All employer is allowed to say, you work starting this date, and end that date. PERIOD. UNLESS you give consent to your employer to release the information whatever happened between you and employer. Don't you know if you have evidence that employer released the information why you lost position and that and you never gave them consent, you CAN sue that employer in civil court for punitive damages! Whats more, I found out that most states DO allow employer to fire for no reason! The only time they can NOT fire you based on these protected classes (Discrimination, etc).

Today, most companies are looking for potential employees that is called "Problem solver". They wanted employee to be able to work and solve problem on their own. If you quit, it exhibit your next employer that you are NOT willing to solve the problem.

I don't know what you all think, but I have WITNESS and EXPERIENCED myself how this goes! I got fired and had NO problem finding other job, so do my friends who got fired too and had NO problem finding another job. WHILE other people I know walked off or quit is now still struggling trying to find another job!!!

This is a scary condition. :Ohno:

I rather to know what is the reason why you are fired before I can trust you to work for me.

It sound that there're no work rights protection in your country. Right? :Ohno:...

It's important to have work agreement contract with employer... Without work agreement contract, you are lost because the bosses can do what they want with you.

Since your in Socialism, so I don't know what is best way to handle. Government controls part of the companies. So, there may be reasons behind that. Here in America is pure capitalism, meaning government don't have much control over companies and they are free to do business whatever they want to.

I beleive that Canadian socialism legal is same as Europeans.

No it has nothing do with Government's control but every employers in companies have the right to control your background and want to know why you are fired or quit before they can trust you to go in their companies due spies, terrorist, fraud, etc. Some employers do not require your work reference (Letter of recommendation) and hire you right way without know who you are. I rather to control every's background to know why they are fired/quit and also reference, too. Most of companies would not accept you in if you dont have reference.


What I know here in Germany.

Make work agreement contract with employer what I can or not after end of 3 to 6 month trial.

The employer has the right to fire me if I broke work agreement contract (illegal etc.). I can't do anything to sue them because I'm responsible for doing illegal etc. I can sue them if they do illegal to break my work agreement contract which it's expensive for them. I can say no to employer for some reason... example, if they ask me to work overtime. Without contract, they can fire you whatever they like...

If I quit my job voluntarily or fired thru illegal then I will get unemployment benefit within 6 weeks time.

If they fired me for no reason or has to let me go due fianical ground then I will get unemployment benefit straight way.

 

[Dennis S.]

To quit, or to be fired: Which is better?

Neither. It's better to find another job first THEN resign/quit your job and move on.

Quitting shows that:
1) You gave up
2) You couldn't work it out
3) The job wasn't a good fit for you

Firing shows that:
1) They gave up
2) They couldn't work it out
3) They couldn't make the job fit you

Quitting or being fired doesn't really affect your next job. However, it may affect how YOU look for your next job. Will the interviewer react badly to a quitting or a firing? Will your self-confidence be affected by the quitting or firing? Will you become lazy and unmotivated on unemployment or will you be a go-getter for your next job? Will not getting unemployment depress you or will the pressing need to pay the bills be the kick start to getting a job?

No good answers here -- just get a dang job first before you ever have to get fired or quit.

 

[Opal]

Dennis - I think different from yours -

Quitting shows that:
1) It is time for a change
2) Look up for different job - to achieve your dreams to work what you really want and be happy.
3) To improve job skills
4) To be closer to spouse's home area
5) To be closer to children's best schools
6) Buy houses in best areas - weather conditions, lands value investments,
7) It is boring to work in same place for at least 5-8 years - very rare people stay in same job for at least 10 years.

Bosses will respect your decisions but they will think less if you got a sack (fired) or sue your old job with work-cover, these compo people will find it nearly impossible to find a new job next.

 

[DeafSCUBA98]

diebiker.. you're right the boss can fire for no reason except the race, sex,disiability, and uh 4 more...

i'm surprised here in USA the bosses are allowed to fire people who smoke cigrettes.. because its not in those 7 discrimiation factors.

 

[Ox Red xO]

whats difference between resign and quit? They are much same thing to me!

True, they are much same thing, but.. its nice word to use resign.. instead quit.. just my opinion..

 

[Dennis S.]

Dennis - I think different from yours -

Quitting shows that:
1) It is time for a change
2) Look up for different job - to achieve your dreams to work what you really want and be happy.
3) To improve job skills
4) To be closer to spouse's home area
5) To be closer to children's best schools
6) Buy houses in best areas - weather conditions, lands value investments,
7) It is boring to work in same place for at least 5-8 years - very rare people stay in same job for at least 10 years.

Bosses will respect your decisions but they will think less if you got a sack (fired) or sue your old job with work-cover, these compo people will find it nearly impossible to find a new job next.

My 3 points address your quitting terms very nicely:

1) You gave up
2) Job wasn't a good fit for you - wrong job
3) Job wasn't a good fit for you - wrong job
4) Job wasn't a good fit for you - wrong location
5) Job wasn't a good fit for you - wrong location
6) Job wasn't a good fit for you - wrong location
7) You gave up

I'm not saying that your reasons to leave a job are a bad thing. I'm just saying that if you take the initiative to quit a job, then you are saying these things. I really do think that "it's time for a change" and "7) It is boring to work in same place for at least 5-8 years - very rare people stay in same job for at least 10 years." are STUPID reasons to just quit a job.

I'm very fine with someone quitting a job because it wasn't a good fit. You should always strive to make ANY job FIT you, or else you'll just quit because you give up. I really dislike people who just give up, because I will NEVER hire them again.