Is Club Freedom a scam?

Is Club Freedom a scam?

  • Yes

    Votes: 40 62.5%

  • No

    Votes: 12 18.8%

  • I don't know

    Votes: 12 18.8%
  • Total voters
    64
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shel90 said:
Oh well..iam one of them so go ahead and bash me for being stupid to fall for CDT. Iam human and I make mistakes. :)let the bashing come on!!!!
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no no Shel... I am not here to bash anyone. Only to help and speak the truth about it. To those of you that are involved I would only suggest to cut your losses and get out before you give any more money to them. Hell, we all make mistakes. I got caught up in Amway at one point in my life. It's where I learned about MLM and pyramid schemes. Fool me once, shame on you... Fool me twice.. shame on me.
 
VamPyroX said:
The reason why these scam artists get away with it is because they do have fine print in their contracts and people don't always read the details.

Let's take this for example...

You and I are sitting at a table. You claim you're good at making quarters stand up on their own. So, I offer to pay you a dime for every quarter you stand up. Would you take the offer?

If yes, you manage to stand up 20 quarters. How much would you get from me. Yes, I'm serious... I would be willing to give you a dime for every quarter you stand up.
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Good one Vampy. You would profit 15 cents and he would loose 15 cents for each quarter. Good point though. Most people would take that offer thinking they would get a dime for each quarter they stood up not knowing they would have to give up the quarter.
 
rockdrummer said:
Good one Vampy. You would profit 15 cents and he would loose 15 cents for each quarter. Good point though. Most people would take that offer thinking they would get a dime for each quarter they stood up not knowing they would have to give up the quarter.
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Smart boy! :thumb:
 
rockdrummer said:
no no Shel... I am not here to bash anyone. Only to help and speak the truth about it. To those of you that are involved I would only suggest to cut your losses and get out before you give any more money to them. Hell, we all make mistakes. I got caught up in Amway at one point in my life. It's where I learned about MLM and pyramid schemes. Fool me once, shame on you... Fool me twice.. shame on me.
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That's why when people asked me to join CF, I said no cuz I wasnt going to go around spending money on different businesses. I would only risk my money once and that was it. So that was what happened. Many of my friends joined Quixtar, CF, and CDT at the same time. My brother is thinking of joining both and I keep telling him no so see if he listens to me.

I was being silly about telling people that I deserved a bashing. :giggle:
 
SxyPorkie said:
Hey.... you are not only one who made mistakes... You are only a human... I do make mistakes.... HUGZ...
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Awww thanks! Yea, I made a mistake but I am glad that I learned from it and not repeat the same mistake again like some people I know.
 
Why is everyone talking about check check of the CF? You will not getting a check. You will be getting e-wallet (debit) card. If you are not will power to believe in CF then don't joining the CF. If you believe in CF then you have to find a good teamwork than idling team. It will not work if your team is just sitting idling. So I'm just sitting tight and wait. So Prove me wrong that I'm saying it is not a scam. CF is lot of work to success.
 
Excuse me rockdrummer

You have no right to judge me and I'am not mean person, You do not know me, you do not live next door to me, nor you do not lives in my shoes, nor we do not grow up together, never never judge anyone saying he or she is mean, you cannot see me in person in real life, onlys God knows who is mean and who is not...

I'am a good person with a big heart, actually you really hurt my feeling by saying I'm a mean person plus telling me I needs some therapy, well let me tell you something, why wasn't I in therapy along time ago which I'am now 40 years old, nobody in my family say anything about me needing a therapy nor counseling ever since I was growing up, they said I was pretty normal nothing is wrong with me...

You do not have the right to judge me, including telling me what to do by saying I need some therapy, this insult you made on me is wrong....

By the way are you hearing, deaf or hard of hearing, most of the time people who are deaf or hard of hearing do not meerly understand deaf cultures or hard of hearing cultures, and of course everyone grammers are different and everyone misunderstand everyone very easily needs to be careful what they says and you should not even tell me I needs therapy nor say I'm mean, you don't tell people that you can upset them or emotionally hurt them....

I wouldn't never say to you in here and write you are mean or you needs therapy, or are you Licensed Certified Therapy ? If not, then you don't have the right to say that to me like that, it's wrong and unkinds!

rockdrummer said:
WOW!.. what you really need is some therapy. You clearly are a mean person who has issues. I was meerly trying to help. Whatever!! I guess its true what they say... There is a sucker born everyday.
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About the Club Freedom ...

I went to the ASL EXPO last weekend Saturday 7th in Indianapolis, Indiana, well I saw the Club Freedom and the people there were real, they explained clearly what Club Freedom is about and it's Real...

The problem is None of us takes the time to studies this Club Freedom...

Many misunderstand and thinks it's a scams and it's not...

Onlys reason why everyone thinks it's a scams, is because they were not doing anything to make money, When you puts down $200.00, that does not means you will get alots of money IMMEDIATELY, everyone got the whole shtick all misunderstanding...
You have to be patient you have to works harder to make alots of money, you do not just sits there and wait for the money to come, this is not about a MIARCLE about to HAPPEN...

You have to works for it to make the money, not sitting there and do nothing, you have to puts in the investment to make the money in a teams, but not alone, it takes time to make the money and everyone expecting alots of money Right Away are wrong, you have to works harder to make the money...

This is not a Scams, we met the real people who works for Club Freedom and I have the lady's VP phone number, she's experienced Club Freedom, So if you wants her VP phone number let me know ...

But I have enjoy the ASL EXPO, it was so much fun and a great experiences to see many different business set up there, pretty cool, goin' again this summer and fall!
 
PePe LePew said:
I went to the ASL EXPO last weekend Saturday 7th in Indianapolis, Indiana, well I saw the Club Freedom and the people there were real, they explained clearly what Club Freedom is about and it's Real...

The problem is None of us takes the time to studies this Club Freedom...

Many misunderstand and thinks it's a scams and it's not...

Onlys reason why everyone thinks it's a scams, is because they were not doing anything to make money, When you puts down $200.00, that does not means you will get alots of money IMMEDIATELY, everyone got the whole shtick all misunderstanding...
You have to be patient you have to works harder to make alots of money, you do not just sits there and wait for the money to come, this is not about a MIARCLE about to HAPPEN...

You have to works for it to make the money, not sitting there and do nothing, you have to puts in the investment to make the money in a teams, but not alone, it takes time to make the money and everyone expecting alots of money Right Away are wrong, you have to works harder to make the money...

This is not a Scams, we met the real people who works for Club Freedom and I have the lady's VP phone number, she's experienced Club Freedom, So if you wants her VP phone number let me know ...

But I have enjoy the ASL EXPO, it was so much fun and a great experiences to see many different business set up there, pretty cool, goin' again this summer and fall!
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PePe LePew said:
You have no right to judge me and I'am not mean person, You do not know me, you do not live next door to me, nor you do not lives in my shoes, nor we do not grow up together, never never judge anyone saying he or she is mean, you cannot see me in person in real life, onlys God knows who is mean and who is not...

I'am a good person with a big heart, actually you really hurt my feeling by saying I'm a mean person plus telling me I needs some therapy, well let me tell you something, why wasn't I in therapy along time ago which I'am now 40 years old, nobody in my family say anything about me needing a therapy nor counseling ever since I was growing up, they said I was pretty normal nothing is wrong with me...

You do not have the right to judge me, including telling me what to do by saying I need some therapy, this insult you made on me is wrong....

By the way are you hearing, deaf or hard of hearing, most of the time people who are deaf or hard of hearing do not meerly understand deaf cultures or hard of hearing cultures, and of course everyone grammers are different and everyone misunderstand everyone very easily needs to be careful what they says and you should not even tell me I needs therapy nor say I'm mean, you don't tell people that you can upset them or emotionally hurt them....

I wouldn't never say to you in here and write you are mean or you needs therapy, or are you Licensed Certified Therapy ? If not, then you don't have the right to say that to me like that, it's wrong and unkinds!
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Look PePe, I dont know what I said that set you off but please understand my intention here is not to get into an argument with anyone on a personal level. I am meerly here to try and help by stating the truth about Club Freedom and that its a scam. I don't want to see anyone getting sucked into this and throw away their hard earned money. That's all. I apologize for anything that I said to you in voicing my opinions that may have hurt your feelings. My comments were only based on what appeared to be your anger towards me. I still am not sure what set you off but at this point it really doesn't matter. I don't want to take away from the focus of this thread. For the record I am hearing with a profoundly deaf child. I do understand deaf culture and I also understand the differences in grammer from some individuals and would never judge a person based on either. My opinions about you only came from your comments and the apparant anger you have towards me. Peace!!
 
PePe LePew said:
I went to the ASL EXPO last weekend Saturday 7th in Indianapolis, Indiana, well I saw the Club Freedom and the people there were real, they explained clearly what Club Freedom is about and it's Real...

The problem is None of us takes the time to studies this Club Freedom...

Many misunderstand and thinks it's a scams and it's not...

Onlys reason why everyone thinks it's a scams, is because they were not doing anything to make money, When you puts down $200.00, that does not means you will get alots of money IMMEDIATELY, everyone got the whole shtick all misunderstanding...
You have to be patient you have to works harder to make alots of money, you do not just sits there and wait for the money to come, this is not about a MIARCLE about to HAPPEN...

You have to works for it to make the money, not sitting there and do nothing, you have to puts in the investment to make the money in a teams, but not alone, it takes time to make the money and everyone expecting alots of money Right Away are wrong, you have to works harder to make the money...

This is not a Scams, we met the real people who works for Club Freedom and I have the lady's VP phone number, she's experienced Club Freedom, So if you wants her VP phone number let me know ...

But I have enjoy the ASL EXPO, it was so much fun and a great experiences to see many different business set up there, pretty cool, goin' again this summer and fall!
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So you got sucked in by the dog and pony show. I have done my research on this and I have provided links and factual information proving it's a scam. Why do you think people are getting arrested? The reason, because in the USA it's not legal. The reason its not legal is because it's mathmatically impossible for everyone to make money on this or any pyramid scheme. It's the initial investors and perhaps a handfull that get in early enough that mayl make money. Most likely they have allready done so and have moved on. Don't be a sucker and buy into this. How much more proof do you need? Are you going to believe the people that are promoting Club Freedom or are you going to believe the authorities that are arresting people for this illegal operation. Remember this is not a US based company and that is how they can claim its legal. While it may be legal in their home based coutry, here in the USA, its NOT LEGAL!!! How much more proof do you need or at least tell me what would convince you that its not?
Club Freedom IS A SCAM
DONT BE A SUCKER
 
hey let them go, and let them find out themselve. I already talked with my lawyer and did research for me, its illegal..
 
such lawyer said.. like you everyone say about pyramid, as well it explaination.
 
PePe LePew said:
I went to the ASL EXPO last weekend Saturday 7th in Indianapolis, Indiana, well I saw the Club Freedom and the people there were real, they explained clearly what Club Freedom is about and it's Real...

The problem is None of us takes the time to studies this Club Freedom...

Many misunderstand and thinks it's a scams and it's not...

Onlys reason why everyone thinks it's a scams, is because they were not doing anything to make money, When you puts down $200.00, that does not means you will get alots of money IMMEDIATELY, everyone got the whole shtick all misunderstanding...
You have to be patient you have to works harder to make alots of money, you do not just sits there and wait for the money to come, this is not about a MIARCLE about to HAPPEN...

You have to works for it to make the money, not sitting there and do nothing, you have to puts in the investment to make the money in a teams, but not alone, it takes time to make the money and everyone expecting alots of money Right Away are wrong, you have to works harder to make the money...

This is not a Scams, we met the real people who works for Club Freedom and I have the lady's VP phone number, she's experienced Club Freedom, So if you wants her VP phone number let me know ...

But I have enjoy the ASL EXPO, it was so much fun and a great experiences to see many different business set up there, pretty cool, goin' again this summer and fall!
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Club Freedom... I have to pay $200 and work to make money.

Blockbuster Video... I have to pay NOTHING and work to make money.

Which is better?
 
I bet you a billion dollars that well known con-artist as Frank W. Abagnale Jr. would say that CF is SCAM! Even though he never went though pyramid business. He had conned and raked in over 4 million dollars in early '70s equal to about 60 million dollars at today dollars. What he did? He make everything LOOKS so REAL, and fool alot people. Most con artist would try to make everything looks so real, even if it means throw in money. That is what Frank W. Abagnale Jr. did.

Suggest you all watch Frank W. Abagnale, Jr. true story movie "Catch me if you can". He even fooled FBI agent and got away several times!

Even though his crimes are unrelated to this issue but this gives you an idea how con-artist thinks, and show absolutely zero guilty feeling! And how they prepared before fool anyone and rake in money.
 
I cannot believe it. I saw it on a DVD movie about Frank-Abagnale. He is asshole. You are right that he is still free and still alive. Here are two photos:

Frank.jpg
pilot.jpg
This young pilot was 18 years old.
 
webexplorer said:
I cannot believe it. I saw it on a DVD movie about Frank-Abagnale. He is asshole. You are right that he is still free and still alive. Here are two photos:

Frank.jpg
pilot.jpg
This young pilot was 18 years old.
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Well, he's now our top fraud consultant... and has paid back everything he owe (from the people he scammed).
 
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