Iraq: Stay or Leave?

Should we stay or should we go?

  • As long it takes, we stay

    Votes: 22 32.8%
  • Get hell out of Iraq

    Votes: 45 67.2%

  • Total voters
    67
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go to yahoo, google, fbi statistics, national cencus statistics anything and it says pretty much the same thing (the more you know!)

Here you go. FBI Crime Stats for 2007.

So far, so good. The preliminary Crime in the United States statistics for 2007 show that the number of violent crimes and property crimes nationwide both fell during the year.

Violent crime dropped 1.4 percent overall compared to 2006, reversing a two-year up tick. That includes decreases in all four offense categories—forcible rape (down 4.3 percent), murder/non-negligent manslaughter (down 2.7 percent), and robbery and aggravated assault (each down 1.2 percent).

Property crime declined 2.1 percent from 2006, with decreases in each city grouping. Arson—tracked separately from other property crimes—also fell 7.0 percent from 2006.

Among the other statistical highlights:

Murder: The numbers ranged from a nearly 10 percent drop in cities with a million people or more (the largest decline in any violent crime category)…to a 3.7 percent rise in cities with 50,000 to 99,999 residents.
Regionally speaking: The rates of violent crime and property crime fell in three out of four regions nationwide. The Northeast, Midwest, and West experienced decreases in both categories, while the South saw slight increases in violent crime (0.7 percent) and property crime (1.1 percent), driven by a 2.9 percent rise in murder and a 3.6 percent rise in robbery. The Northeast had the largest drop in violent crime (5.4 percent), including a decrease of 8.6 percent in murders and non-negligent manslaughter.
Big cities: Cities with a million or more residents saw significant decreases in every violent crime category—9.8 percent in murder; 8.0 percent in rape; 2.9 percent in robbery, and 4.0 percent in aggravated assault.
On the rise: Despite the nationwide drop of 1.4 percent, violent crime actually increased 1.8 percent in non-metropolitan counties and 1.9 percent in cities with populations ranging from 10,000 to 24,999.
Forcible Rape: It was the only violent crime category experiencing declines across the board—in all city groups, in both metropolitan and non-metropolitan counties, and in every region.


I don't see anything that supports your claim that a black individual is 50% more likely to commit a violent crime.
 
imma make a motion for jill and pinky to have there own threads hahaha itll be fun watching those two outsign each other heheh,.....lord I apologize (sneak peeks):cheers: to jill and pinky good mates and good times
 
Yes, he's obviously dead. Who said his death will not end the terrorism??? Well, right now, we basically sweeping the Al-Qaeda out of the troubled country. The good guys are trying to clean up but the bad guys love to messing around up in Iraq's backyard.

Has terrorism stopped with his death?
 
Eliminating both Saddam and bin Laden will not end the war of terrorism. There will be plenty more to replace them - somebody worse and more evil than them...

It doesn't matter which is most of evil. Just an EVIL numbers. It's no judge which is the best or least. Still they are evil! They hate our America! :(
 
Here you go. FBI Crime Stats for 2007.

So far, so good. The preliminary Crime in the United States statistics for 2007 show that the number of violent crimes and property crimes nationwide both fell during the year.

Violent crime dropped 1.4 percent overall compared to 2006, reversing a two-year up tick. That includes decreases in all four offense categories—forcible rape (down 4.3 percent), murder/non-negligent manslaughter (down 2.7 percent), and robbery and aggravated assault (each down 1.2 percent).

Property crime declined 2.1 percent from 2006, with decreases in each city grouping. Arson—tracked separately from other property crimes—also fell 7.0 percent from 2006.

Among the other statistical highlights:

Murder: The numbers ranged from a nearly 10 percent drop in cities with a million people or more (the largest decline in any violent crime category)…to a 3.7 percent rise in cities with 50,000 to 99,999 residents.
Regionally speaking: The rates of violent crime and property crime fell in three out of four regions nationwide. The Northeast, Midwest, and West experienced decreases in both categories, while the South saw slight increases in violent crime (0.7 percent) and property crime (1.1 percent), driven by a 2.9 percent rise in murder and a 3.6 percent rise in robbery. The Northeast had the largest drop in violent crime (5.4 percent), including a decrease of 8.6 percent in murders and non-negligent manslaughter.
Big cities: Cities with a million or more residents saw significant decreases in every violent crime category—9.8 percent in murder; 8.0 percent in rape; 2.9 percent in robbery, and 4.0 percent in aggravated assault.
On the rise: Despite the nationwide drop of 1.4 percent, violent crime actually increased 1.8 percent in non-metropolitan counties and 1.9 percent in cities with populations ranging from 10,000 to 24,999.
Forcible Rape: It was the only violent crime category experiencing declines across the board—in all city groups, in both metropolitan and non-metropolitan counties, and in every region.


I don't see anything that supports your claim that a black individual is 50% more likely to commit a violent crime.

Blacks Commit 90 Percent of Interracial Crime
 
Thank you for post a link. I didn't see the black of terrorism either.

Here you go. FBI Crime Stats for 2007.

So far, so good. The preliminary Crime in the United States statistics for 2007 show that the number of violent crimes and property crimes nationwide both fell during the year.

Violent crime dropped 1.4 percent overall compared to 2006, reversing a two-year up tick. That includes decreases in all four offense categories—forcible rape (down 4.3 percent), murder/non-negligent manslaughter (down 2.7 percent), and robbery and aggravated assault (each down 1.2 percent).

Property crime declined 2.1 percent from 2006, with decreases in each city grouping. Arson—tracked separately from other property crimes—also fell 7.0 percent from 2006.

Among the other statistical highlights:

Murder: The numbers ranged from a nearly 10 percent drop in cities with a million people or more (the largest decline in any violent crime category)…to a 3.7 percent rise in cities with 50,000 to 99,999 residents.
Regionally speaking: The rates of violent crime and property crime fell in three out of four regions nationwide. The Northeast, Midwest, and West experienced decreases in both categories, while the South saw slight increases in violent crime (0.7 percent) and property crime (1.1 percent), driven by a 2.9 percent rise in murder and a 3.6 percent rise in robbery. The Northeast had the largest drop in violent crime (5.4 percent), including a decrease of 8.6 percent in murders and non-negligent manslaughter.
Big cities: Cities with a million or more residents saw significant decreases in every violent crime category—9.8 percent in murder; 8.0 percent in rape; 2.9 percent in robbery, and 4.0 percent in aggravated assault.
On the rise: Despite the nationwide drop of 1.4 percent, violent crime actually increased 1.8 percent in non-metropolitan counties and 1.9 percent in cities with populations ranging from 10,000 to 24,999.
Forcible Rape: It was the only violent crime category experiencing declines across the board—in all city groups, in both metropolitan and non-metropolitan counties, and in every region.


I don't see anything that supports your claim that a black individual is 50% more likely to commit a violent crime.
 
It doesn't matter which is most of evil. Just an EVIL numbers. It's no judge which is the best or least. Still they are evil! They hate our America! :(

We hate them too just because we think they are primitive and their religions/justice system is cruel. Does that make us evil to them as well? My say is - leave them the fuck alone and then the world will be happy with America. They get pissed at America for getting their nosy nose in their business.
 
It's not always stuck to attack in USA. It's still terrorism in America. You have to go check it out again. SOme terrorism can't touch because our America's Airport International is very strict. They have a security! Some terrorism can travel on a boat to America and bomb it. They know how to build the bombs. I watched a movie name is "Path to 911" On history channel. It's very sad!


yes yes perhaps.... but hardly a concern since they have not attacked USA once. They hardly pose a threat to USA at all! Yes they are evil and twisted but they are not that crazy to even attack or finance an attack on USA. They know they'll face a wrath from USA which is.... a total annihilation.



No! It still there in USA. It's currently!

The global terrorism map you see.... 99.9% of it has nothing to do with USA and has not attacked USA. For the past several years - we have been attacked by foreign terrorists only twice (both at WTC) which is nothing compared to our domestic terrorism.

Most of terrorisms in USA are domestic are done by white people like Tim McVeigh, Eric Rudolph, Ted Kacynski, and... the high schoolers.
 
Yes, he's obviously dead. Who said his death will not end the terrorism??? Well, right now, we basically sweeping the Al-Qaeda out of the troubled country. The good guys are trying to clean up but the bad guys love to messing around up in Iraq's backyard.

not gonna happen anytime soon or in future. There are always plenty more Al-Qaeda. You know what's the problem? It's not really Al-Qaeda... it's the insurgents. Take a guess why there are more and more insurgents.

There are over 600,000 dead Iraqi civilians caused by USA... which means... the family members or friends want to avenge them... which means they join the "Freedom Fighters" or Al-Qaeda just to lash out on USA. get it? You think most of "Al-Qaeda" or insurgents care about some jihad or religon war? not at all. They simply want to avenge their love ones and we are responsible for that.

I think it's responsible of us to leave them alone and stop getting involved in most of foreign matters by on our terms, dictating what they should do or not. I think it's responsible of us to be very active in United Nations and continue to strongly support the ideal of United Nations.
 
We hate them too just because we think they are primitive and their religions/justice system is cruel. Does that make us evil to them as well? My say is - leave them the fuck alone and then the world will be happy with America. They get pissed at America for getting their nosy nose in their business.

That's true! They are jealous of our country! :roll: I agree with you. They need to leave our country ALONE!
 
It doesn't matter which is most of evil. Just an EVIL numbers. It's no judge which is the best or least. Still they are evil! They hate our America! :(

And, quite obviously, we are not terribly fond of them, either. They are not evil. They have a different culture, a different life than Americans. Their values and norms are different. What is acceptable to them is not the same as what is acceptable to an American. That doesn't make them evil. It makes them different.

It is not America's business to pronounce judgement against another way of life. It is our military's business to protect the U.S., not attempt to change a government and religion that exceeds our own in history.
 
movie name is "Path to 911" On history channel. It's very sad!



do they still show that film? id like to see it, and any highlights from it not really specifics but some highlights whats it about?
 
That's true! They are jealous of our country! :roll: I agree with you. They need to leave our country ALONE!

no no you misunderstood me. They are not jealous of our country (except Baywatch shows and Maxim magazines). We are the one who should leave them alone.
 
That's true! They are jealous of our country! :roll: I agree with you. They need to leave our country ALONE!

That is not what he said. What he said is that other countries dislike America's tactics in Iraq and Iran. And that America is behaving in an ethnocentric manner. They are not "jealous" of the U.S. They don't want our lifestyle. We are attempting to force it on them.

EDIT: OOPS! Didn't see your reply before I posted, jiro!
 
And, quite obviously, we are not terribly fond of them, either. They are not evil. They have a different culture, a different life than Americans. Their values and norms are different. What is acceptable to them is not the same as what is acceptable to an American. That doesn't make them evil. It makes them different.

It is not America's business to pronounce judgement against another way of life. It is our military's business to protect the U.S., not attempt to change a government and religion that exceeds our own in history.



not exactly sure how to word it but yeah hearing people have theyre culture hoh and deaf have ours in a way that doesnt mean, deaf and hoh should hate and destroy hearing people because they cannot see the same world as us, in this america/iraq fued we shouldnt be blowing up foreign countries for nothing, as I posted somewhere down the line( or rather up the line)
 
movie name is "Path to 911" On history channel. It's very sad!



do they still show that film? id like to see it, and any highlights from it not really specifics but some highlights whats it about?
Did you see what happened?? That's why I am against Terrorism. If you are caring about our America and need to end the terrorism in the world. Terrorism can be spread to everywhere in the worldwide.
 
not exactly sure how to word it but yeah hearing people have theyre culture hoh and deaf have ours in a way that doesnt mean, deaf and hoh should hate and destroy hearing people because they cannot see the same world as us, in this america/iraq fued we shouldnt be blowing up foreign countries for nothing, as I posted somewhere down the line( or rather up the line)

**nodding**
 
Did you see what happened?? That's why I am against Terrorism. If you are caring about our America and need to end the terrorism in the world. Terrorism can be spread to everywhere in the worldwide.

Terrorism doesn't need to spread to everywhere in the world. It is already there, in America included.
 
That is not what he said. What he said is that other countries dislike America's tactics in Iraq and Iran. And that America is behaving in an ethnocentric manner. They are not "jealous" of the U.S. They don't want our lifestyle. We are attempting to force it on them.

EDIT: OOPS! Didn't see your reply before I posted, jiro!

I am talking about Saddam and OBL are jealous of our America!
 
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