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DeafCaroline said:
What about those who grew up in Christian households, went to church and studied the bible then chose not to be Christian? They don't have a right to make their interpretations of the meaning of like Christians do?
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I agree that they can post about their own experiences, of course.

And Reba, in the spirit of this holiday, I do want to let you know that I did feel bad about some of my posts directed to you for as far as I can tell, you're a rather nice and very decent woman and it was unfair that sometimes you were somewhat of a scapegoat because of other people professing to be Christian who made unchristian remarks or endorsed unchristian attitudes and activities.
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:ty: I appreciate that.

So, I will try hard from this point onwards to make sure that I stick to the debate at hand and not succumb to making posts that could be perceived as a personal attack.
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I will try also. It's sometimes hard when the posting gets fast and furious. It's a human thing.

I wish you a good holiday.
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Thank you. May you have a joyous Christmas and blessed new year. :)
 
shushugah said:
There were Zionists who supported having the new Jewish land in Madagascar. That said, generally nowadays most zionists would agree it should be where formerly Palestine is.

Zion comes from"Tzion" which is another name for Jerusalem...so go figure.
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Hmm, I hadn't known that. I will have to keep this in mind.
 
jillio said:
Well, let's take a look at the numbers. There are 14.6 million Jewish people worldwide (5 million in the U.S.) as identified by the Jewish Year Calendar. There are 3 movements in the religion (sects to you Christians): Reform, Conservative, and Orthodox.

islamicpopulation.com states there are 2.1 billion Muslims worldwide, with an identified 7 schools of belief with 17 sects divided among them.

There are an estimated 2 billion Christians worldwide and we have, all under Christianity:

Catholocism, Protestant, Eastern Orthodoxy, Oriental Orthodoxy, Anglicanism, Restorationism, Unitarian Uiversalism, and Nestorianism. Since I mentioned Prostestant denominations specifically, there are 670 million Protestants, and they are divided between 5000+ denominations.

So, I don't know. You tell me where the most disagreement on schools of belief lies.
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Reba said:
I agree that they can post about their own experiences, of course.


:ty: I appreciate that.


I will try also. It's sometimes hard when the posting gets fast and furious. It's a human thing.


Thank you. May you have a joyous Christmas and blessed new year. :)
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Merry Christmas to you both!
 
shushugah said:
There were Zionists who supported having the new Jewish land in Madagascar. That said, generally nowadays most zionists would agree it should be where formerly Palestine is.

Zion comes from"Tzion" which is another name for Jerusalem...so go figure.
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Thank you. Not only is this interesting, it is the most reasonable answer I've seen yet. I don't understand why people are afraid of this description, it is what it is.

So long as religion plays a part in what happens in the middle east the problems will never be solved, IMO. Two sides that are not allowed to see a middle ground will never reach an agreement.
 
Jiro said:
the source is correct but it is you who understand it wrong.

Jewish ADers are trying to explain it to you and you are trying to correct them. why are you being stubborn?
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I am not being stubborn, you didn't sway my argument. If I saw a reason, I'd certainly say so.

I agree with a lot of what you guys say, but I'm not going to concede a point if I don't agree with it.

And besides, you guys give yourselves enough credit already.
 
Reba said:
The same way you let Christians decide what is the meaning of Christianity and the Bible, and how it should be applied?

That would be nice.
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Ba-zing!!!

You kinda have a point there. ;)

However, I'd like to point out there are times where we argue about how you (general) apply Christianity to OTHERS in terms of law (which is not what we are doing right now)..... And I think that is a fair argument.

I agree that no one should tell you what you should believe, but hey, everyone can tell you what they think about what you believe, which is very evident in AD. :D
 
I don't listen to Christian spiels. Go ahead and pray for me.
 
VacationGuy234 said:
I am not being stubborn, you didn't sway my argument. If I saw a reason, I'd certainly say so.

I agree with a lot of what you guys say, but I'm not going to concede a point if I don't agree with it.

And besides, you guys give yourselves enough credit already.
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then you are being stubborn.
 
jillio said:
Well, let's take a look at the numbers. There are 14.6 million Jewish people worldwide (5 million in the U.S.) as identified by the Jewish Year Calendar. There are 3 movements in the religion (sects to you Christians): Reform, Conservative, and Orthodox.
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Those are the three major movements but not the only ones. For example (not all inclusive), there's also Reconstruction, Ultra-Orthodox, Liberal, and Lubavitcher Chasidim. However, the number of movements isn't the point. The point is, there is not just one unanimous movement, and within each movement there isn't unanimous agreement. In worldwide population, they are a minority number, so one wouldn't expect as many movements as larger groups have.

islamicpopulation.com states there are 2.1 billion Muslims worldwide, with an identified 7 schools of belief with 17 sects divided among them.
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OK.

There are an estimated 2 billion Christians worldwide and we have, all under Christianity:

Catholocism, Protestant, Eastern Orthodoxy, Oriental Orthodoxy, Anglicanism, Restorationism, Unitarian Uiversalism, and Nestorianism. Since I mentioned Prostestant denominations specifically, there are 670 million Protestants, and they are divided between 5000+ denominations.
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More people, more groups, and some are very small groups at that.

So, I don't know. You tell me where the most disagreement on schools of belief lies.
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Are you starting a new topic? My post wasn't about "where the most disagreement on schools of belief lies." It's not a contest.

My post was about the fact that Christians aren't the only people who have theological differences amongst themselves. Yet, they seem to get the most postings from non-believers disputing what Christians believe. I haven't seen a spate of posts referring to the Torah and Koran as books of myths written by men, or calling Jewish and Muslim posters haters for stating their beliefs. (I certainly don't want to see that happen to them either.)
 
Beowulf said:
Not really. I've seen only Christians loudly professing their beliefs in here.
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Beowulf said:
Why would they need defending? What caused them to be "attacked?" Their loud professing of their faith ad nauseum.
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Then use the options available to you: file a complaint, report a post, use the "ignore" feature. Religious discussion is not permitted, so why simply complain about it? You have the power to make the change. You have the rules on your side. You have the higher numbers of members that are against religious posts. Power! Use it.

*shrugs*
 
saywhatkid said:
Then use the options available to you: file a complaint, report a post, use the "ignore" feature. Religious discussion is not permitted, so why simply complain about it? You have the power to make the change. You have the rules on your side. You have the higher numbers of members that are against religious posts. Power! Use it.

*shrugs*
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Or just speak up when it gets loud again. :wave:
 
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