Indiana bans drivers from smiling in new license photos

[C.C.Sinned]

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[Wokamuka]

I know some states don't put pics on driver's licenses for those over 65. I've never heard of the handicapped one, though.

The State of Louisiana falls under this category. They issue an id for the "cripple space" folks and it must be available when requested by local and state police officers.

 

[Grummer]

Remmy the days when they didn't even put your pic on your driver's license?

me too, and the worlds population, wasnt that much different, the difference i suspect is theres less people working ( but shifted over to india, and few other asian countries for cheap labour) so there more angry people so hence beaucracy in the west want more control.. so they become a fucktard telling everyone that licences doesn cut it anymore.....geeez times are changing and will continue to change more and more into a dracion society. It might even get so bad, that you have to show ID's just to see if you're eligible to buy toilet papers...on that thought i wonder if this has already happened. silly i know but the way deforestation and rampant capitalism is going.... it might just happen...

 

[Jolie77]

That's a good question, Jolie. I think Ohio started putting photos on driver's licenses in 1975. TN was in 1972, if I am not mistaken.

Okay, I suppose as for other states, It probably started in the late 60's and in the early 70's?

I tried to google it up to see which state was the first state to implement the photos on the driver's license but unfortunately, I didn't get any luck finding any answers.

 

[Jolie77]

make-up does not distort facial structure. It only fools person's eyes but it does not fool software. The facial recognition software does not compare faces by looks - only facial physical structure. That's why they ask you to not smile and remove any physical-wearing device (glasses, headband, etc.).

Take a look below on how facial recognition software sees your face -

That's why make-up does not matter as long as it does not distort the physical structure. Those pictures above vary among competitors who make facial recognition software.

Thanks for pointing this out. I was wondering how that works with the facial recognition software and after seeing these image, that clears it up. I have to wonder, Even though if a person smiles, wouldn't the facial recognition software still be able to structure the lines around the face to identify or to match a person? What I mean is, As advanced as the technologies are now these days, wouldn't it be easier if the smiles were eliminated within a click?

 

[Secretblend]

I got my permit when I was 14 and got another permet for motorcycle when I was 15. Always had pictures taken.

Off point, Imagine riding a motorcycle to drivers ed!

 

[Jiro]

Thanks for pointing this out. I was wondering how that works with the facial recognition software and after seeing these image, that clears it up. I have to wonder, Even though if a person smiles, wouldn't the facial recognition software still be able to structure the lines around the face to identify or to match a person? What I mean is, As advanced as the technologies are now these days, wouldn't it be easier if the smiles were eliminated within a click?

that's why software makes many points of reference... same as fingerprinting... voice matching... You'll never come up with 100% match unless it's exactly identical. for ie - it takes 22 muscles (mostly risorius) to smile. That's mostly around chin area. The computer can try to match by using points of reference on upper half of face.

But of course... the world is not perfect and you won't get stone-like faces... which is why competitors have their own secret corporate techniques to overcome such problems.

 

[Reba]

I found one of my Dad's old driver's licenses. It is from 1943, Indiana. It was called an "Operator's License" and it cost 50 cents. No photo, and it's not laminated. It's heavy stock paper with a perforated bottom edge, so I guess it was originally on a lager sheet with several other licenses. It's filled in by manual typewriter.

Here's the back side of the license. I guess it was a reminder to those drivers who forgot what to do while driving!

 

[Babyblue]

I found one of my Dad's old driver's licenses. It is from 1943, Indiana. It was called an "Operator's License" and it cost 50 cents. No photo, and it's not laminated. It's heavy stock paper with a perforated bottom edge, so I guess it was originally on a lager sheet with several other licenses. It's filled in by manual typewriter.

Here's the back side of the license. I guess it was a reminder to those drivers who forgot what to do while driving!

Wow!

I have never seen one of those before.

If you don't mind telling. What year was that license?

 

[Reba]

wow!

I have never seen one of those before.

If you don't mind telling. What year was that license?

1943

 

[Babyblue]

I have heard of such Licenses but never seen one.

I just remember the old laminated ones.

 

[Jolie77]

I found one of my Dad's old driver's licenses. It is from 1943, Indiana. It was called an "Operator's License" and it cost 50 cents. No photo, and it's not laminated. It's heavy stock paper with a perforated bottom edge, so I guess it was originally on a lager sheet with several other licenses. It's filled in by manual typewriter.

Here's the back side of the license. I guess it was a reminder to those drivers who forgot what to do while driving!

This is very interesting to see a old driver's license. I have never seen a older one like this. Thanks for sharing this with us.

I find it funny seeing the descriptions explaining how to do the hand signals on the back of the driver's license.

 

[Reba]

This is very interesting to see a old driver's license. I have never seen a older one like this. Thanks for sharing this with us.

I find it funny seeing the descriptions explaining how to do the hand signals on the back of the driver's license.

My Dad kept most of his old licenses and ID cards, so I have a good collection of them. He was born in Lebanon, IN, and grew up on a farm there during the Great Depression, so that's why he had an Indiana license.

I don't know how the driver was supposed to use the hand signal "reminder" part of the card. Pull it out of his wallet each time he had to turn or stop, and review the signals?

Seriously, I would hope that the drivers knew how to do the signals before getting a license!

 

[deafskeptic]

My Dad kept most of his old licenses and ID cards, so I have a good collection of them. He was born in Lebanon, IN, and grew up on a farm there during the Great Depression, so that's why he had an Indiana license.

I don't know how the driver was supposed to use the hand signal "reminder" part of the card. Pull it out of his wallet each time he had to turn or stop, and review the signals?

Seriously, I would hope that the drivers knew how to do the signals before getting a license!

Ha, ha. I guess they didn't have turn signals in those days. I still remember stories of my mother telling me that if i stuck my head out of the window, a car would come along and chop it off.

 

[Wokamuka]

Thanks for pointing this out. I was wondering how that works with the facial recognition software and after seeing these image, that clears it up. I have to wonder, Even though if a person smiles, wouldn't the facial recognition software still be able to structure the lines around the face to identify or to match a person? What I mean is, As advanced as the technologies are now these days, wouldn't it be easier if the smiles were eliminated within a click?

Facial recognition? You're scaring me, already.

 

[Jolie77]

My Dad kept most of his old licenses and ID cards, so I have a good collection of them. He was born in Lebanon, IN, and grew up on a farm there during the Great Depression, so that's why he had an Indiana license.

Ah I see. Lebanon, IN is way up north from where I was born at.

I don't know how the driver was supposed to use the hand signal "reminder" part of the card. Pull it out of his wallet each time he had to turn or stop, and review the signals?

I sure hope they didn't do it every time they made the stop to turn. Just imagine a driver looking at it each time would be so distracting, ha!

Seriously, I would hope that the drivers knew how to do the signals before getting a license!

I agree, I would hope they do! I guess back then in 1943, the driving rules and regulations were much different and simpler than it is now in today's terms.

Ha, ha. I guess they didn't have turn signals in those days. I still remember stories of my mother telling me that if i stuck my head out of the window, a car would come along and chop it off.

Haha, While I was growing up, I remember I was always sticking my hand and arm out of the window - My mom, Dad, Aunts, Uncles and Grandparents always have told me the same stories over and over again. They said that if I put my hand and arm out of the window, a tree or a sign post would come along to chop it off. That was enough to scare me for life!

 

[Reba]

Ha, ha. I guess they didn't have turn signals in those days. I still remember stories of my mother telling me that if i stuck my head out of the window, a car would come along and chop it off.

Most vehicles didn't have electric turn signals back then.

I had to learn and use those signals to pass my driving test. Most vehicles had turn signals by then but it was required anyway. I knew the hand signals anyway because I used them when I rode my bicycle.

 

[Christer]

Yes that's true and I live in Indiana.