Immigration back on front burner due to Ariz. law

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TUCSON, Ariz. – With the scrawl of a pen, GOP Gov. Jan Brewer of Arizona awakened the dormant but explosive issue of illegal immigration, sending shock waves across the political spectrum in an election year when both parties had hoped to sidestep the topic.

Two months after Brewer signed a law instructing police to demand proof of a questionable person's legal status, voters have refocused on a topic that had faded into the background after Congress failed to overhaul the immigration system in 2007.

Protests have flared. Lawsuits have followed. Arizona boycotts are under way. More than 20 states are discussing similar efforts.

Polls again put border security and immigration among voters' top concerns.

"It's not just a problem in Arizona; it's a problem everywhere. People are just furious," Gary Widemann says of illegal immigration. "Something needs to be done."

He would know. Widemann, 59, splits his time between Arizona, a big gateway for illegal immigrants with an estimated 460,000 living there, and South Dakota, which has a small Hispanic population but relies on immigrants — legal or not — to fill jobs at its meatpacking plants.

"What the Arizona law did tap into was the idea that we've got to control our borders," said Andrew Kohut, director of the nonpartisan Pew Research Center. "This law really galvanized public opinion on that one aspect of this issue."

Politicians from President Barack Obama down find themselves again wrestling with a topic that's politically perilous for Republicans and Democrats alike, particularly in an election year and as both parties seek to court Hispanics, the nation's fastest-growing minority group.

They have little choice.

An Associated Press-GfK poll this month found that 85 percent of people now rank immigration as an important issue.

Every spoke in the wheel of American life is touched by it.

Porous borders and undocumented people have national security implications. Foreign workers become an important part of the economy, filling low-paying jobs and possibly depressing wage scales in higher-paying ones. Schools, businesses and most other entities are forced to adapt to immigrant-swelled populations. Family, race and social norms also are at play.

Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid, who faces a fierce re-election fight in Nevada, pushed for legislation in the spring to provide an eventual path to citizenship — what critics call amnesty — for many of the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants. Reid was accused of pandering and he shelved the plan when other Democrats declined to jump aboard.

In Arizona, Attorney General Terry Goddard opposes the law in a state that overwhelmingly supports it. The Democratic nominee for governor, he's trying to figure out just how to challenge Brewer on the issue.

Republican candidates also find themselves in a tight spot. Social conservatives want a get-tough policy on illegal immigrants, agriculture operations fear it will be too tough and businesses want more visas for immigrants possessing high-tech skills.

Arizona Sen. John McCain, the GOP champion of a comprehensive immigration reform when Congress last debated the issue, now advocates securing the border first. "Complete the dang fence," McCain says in a TV ad in his GOP primary race against former Rep. J.D. Hayworth, a staunch border-security advocate.

"Would I have written the bill? Probably not," McCain said in a recent interview. "But the fact is people in Arizona are frustrated because the federal government didn't act. People feel very passionate about it, here and everywhere."

In California, Democratic Sen. Barbara Boxer's GOP challenger, Carly Fiorina, is finding that her defense of the Arizona law during the GOP primary could turn off Hispanics she needs to win in November. Meg Whitman, the state's GOP candidate for governor, shifted to the right on immigration during the primary but is now courting Hispanics with a TV ad that notes her opposition to the Arizona law.

Scorching now, the issue is certain to become even hotter as the nation's minority population steadily rises. Boosted by a surge in Hispanic births and people who call themselves multiracial, minorities now make up 35 percent of the U.S. population. Both parties are courting them.

Democrats have an edge. But Hispanic support isn't guaranteed. "This is a very tricky issue for the administration and for Democrats, in particular, because the Latino vote has been an important part of the Obama coalition," said Kohut.

Obama typifies the conflicted politicians.

He called the Arizona law irresponsible. But he also dispatched 1,200 more National Guard troops to the southern border to show he's sympathetic to slowing the tide of illegal immigrants. Obama supports the same legislation that Reid advocates, but the president is not putting it at the top of his priorities.

The latest AP-GfK poll shows about half the country now has a sour view of how he's handled the issue.

Immigration back on front burner due to Ariz. law - Yahoo! News
 
Not yet. Lawsuit in progress.

Jillio, do you agree with this?

Democrats have an edge. But Hispanic support isn't guaranteed. "This is a very tricky issue for the administration and for Democrats, in particular, because the Latino vote has been an important part of the Obama coalition," said Kohut.

Obama typifies the conflicted politicians.
 
Jillio, do you agree with this?

Democrats have an edge. But Hispanic support isn't guaranteed. "This is a very tricky issue for the administration and for Democrats, in particular, because the Latino vote has been an important part of the Obama coalition," said Kohut.

Obama typifies the conflicted politicians.

Do I agree with the lawsuit being filed for an injuction against Arizona's recent law. Yep, I do.
 
The latest AP-GfK poll shows about half the country now has a sour view of how he's handled the issue.

what a sad sad sad state of disillusion. Illegal Immigrant... always the best issue to throw it out for diversion purpose....
 
Not yet. Lawsuit in progress.


Mission is accomplished, lawsuit will go nowhere and the feds know it. Thats why it's in the front burner again, why, because they don't want other states to follow Arizona's example. Way to go Arizona!!!!!!!!!! :) :) :) :) :) :)
 
Mission is accomplished, lawsuit will go nowhere and the feds know it. Thats why it's in the front burner again, why, because they don't want other states to follow Arizona's example. Way to go Arizona!!!!!!!!!! :) :) :) :) :) :)

Incorrect. Lawsuit is valid.

Odd. You are in favor of states attempting to usurp Federal jurisdiction? Are you one of the supporters of secession, as well?
 
Merely getting attention focused on the issue is a victory.....
 
Riiight. And now Brewer is using intellectual dishonesty and downright lies to garner support for the bill.:roll:
 
yep. a liar..... she's now getting flamed by Border Patrols.

Arizona's Brewer: Most illegal immigrants are 'drug mules' - CNN.com
T.J. Bonner of the National Border Patrol Council told CNN that Brewer's claims were "clearly not the case." Bonner said that some undocumented immigrants caught by border patrol agents have drugs on them, and that they sometimes blame pressure from the drug cartels.

hmmm ... ok, so what Brewer said was true ... but


But, he said, those claims have little credibility because drug smugglers are typically transporting much larger quantities of drugs. And besides, he said, if what Brewer said were true, there would be many more prosecutions for drug smuggling.



How could there be many more prosecutions for drugs if the Democrats don't prosecute?

Anyone ever read catch -22?
 
hmmm ... ok, so what Brewer said was true ... but

How could there be many more prosecutions for drugs if the Democrats don't prosecute?

Anyone ever read catch -22?

I love how you phrased the question with sleezy style. Here's the proper question - "How could there be many more prosecutions for drugs if there were NO SUCH THING in the first place?"

Did you even read the article? The Border Patrols don't even agree with her claim. This is the union who represent over 20,000 Border Patrols.

A labor union representing nearly 20,000 border patrol agents and staff Friday disputed comments made by Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer that most illegal immigrants coming across the southern border are smuggling drugs.

T.J. Bonner of the National Border Patrol Council told CNN that Brewer's claims were "clearly not the case." Bonner said that some undocumented immigrants caught by border patrol agents have drugs on them, and that they sometimes blame pressure from the drug cartels.

But, he said, those claims have little credibility because drug smugglers are typically transporting much larger quantities of drugs. And besides, he said, if what Brewer said were true, there would be many more prosecutions for drug smuggling

and Brewer still continue to say
"The simple truth is that the majority of human smuggling in our state is under the direction of the drug cartels, which are by definition smuggling drugs," Brewer's statement said, according to the Associated Press as reported in the Arizona Republic. "It is common knowledge that Mexican drug cartels have merged human smuggling with drug trafficking."

Remember..... Brewer most likely has never ever ever ever seen this kind of thing once in her life. and yet... she's spouting like she's an seasoned Border Patrol agent. :hmm:

Catch 22? More like Bush WMD Lie.
 
No such thing in the first place - your question leads me to believe you smoke crack.

So, the Mexican military goes to war with cartels just south of the border, some just last week, but there is no such thing as drug traffiking.

No .... no .... all the drugs stay in Mexico. Those drug dealers wouldn't use illegal immigrants at all .... they are much too ethical for that. :roll:

Brewer is spouting what seasoned border patrol agents have been telling her. What 63% of her own constituents have been telling her .... but, since you have zero experience in being a resident in Arizona, you somehow have taken a pontificater's view of what is best for everyone in Arizona.


No such thing ..... um ...... yeah.
 
No such thing in the first place - your question leads me to believe you smoke crack.

So, the Mexican military goes to war with cartels just south of the border, some just last week, but there is no such thing as drug traffiking.

No .... no .... all the drugs stay in Mexico. Those drug dealers wouldn't use illegal immigrants at all .... they are much too ethical for that. :roll:

so you are disputing Border Patrol's argument? Funny that you rather believe Brewer the same ol'e sleezy politician than Border Patrols who have been doing this at front line 24/7....

Brewer is spouting what seasoned border patrol agents have been telling her.
but... I just showed you that Border Patrols do not agree with her claim.

What 63% of her own constituents have been telling her .... but, since you have zero experience in being a resident in Arizona, you somehow have taken a pontificater's view of what is best for everyone in Arizona.
63% civilians.... have they done Border Patrol duty?

No such thing ..... um ...... yeah.
yep... that's what Border Patrols are saying. No such thing that Brewer is claiming
 
so you are disputing Border Patrol's argument? Funny that you rather believe Brewer the same ol'e sleezy politician than Border Patrols who have been doing this at front line 24/7....


but... I just showed you that Border Patrols do not agree with her claim.


63% civilians.... have they done Border Patrol duty?


yep... that's what Border Patrols are saying. No such thing that Brewer is claiming

A portion of them are saying it. Not all of them.

Just so you know, I have a family member that is an Arizona Ranger. He lives in Phoenix. I would listen to him probably just a little bit more than someone who has never been to Arizona ;)

Also, I would listen to him more than someone who thinks the watr on drugs is futile, drugs should be legalized and that Brewer should be sued for enforcing a federal law.


He likes motorcycles too:

Rangerbike.jpg


(picture of custom motorcycle with P51 Mustang theme)
 
Just so you know, I have a family member that is an Arizona Ranger. He lives in Phoenix. I would listen to him probably just a little bit more than someone who has never been to Arizona ;)

The union that speaks for over 20,000 Border Patrol agents.... plus National Border Patrol Council (which supported SB-1070)....

Point is - they were lied to by Brewer just like we got lied to by Bush on WMD in Iraq..... :hmm:
 
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