I'm deaf but that's no reason to treat me like a cloth-eared bint

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LIZ JONES: I'm deaf but that's no reason to treat me like a cloth-eared bint | Mail Online

I hate being deaf. Despite being disabled, I get absolutely no perks at all.

I’m not allowed to park anywhere near the entrance to a supermarket. And I don’t get to sit in the front row at concerts or the theatre (in fact, I have given up going to the theatre as I never hear a word anyone says – whatever happened to projection?).

All I get is rudeness, even though I tell everyone I encounter at the outset that I am very hard of hearing, so please bear with me.

Take my call on Friday afternoon to a firm called iVal, which has been designated to look after my claim with my household insurance provider, Santander.

A few weeks ago, my ten-month-old Apple MacBook Pro froze, so I took it to the Apple store at the Westfield shopping centre in West London.

The hip young gunslingers with iPads at the ready showed no interest when they learned I had a problem and was not buying the iPad 2.

(Incidentally, why has Apple, which has managed to come up with so many innovations, not introduced a first-come-first-served system in its stores? It’s totally random.)

Anyway, I left the laptop with them. A few days later, someone rang to say it could be repaired for about £800 but it might never be the same again, so I might as well buy a new one.

Which I did – for £1,400. I sent the repair sheet to Santander. Radio silence. Later, I called iVal, which is when my real problems started.

At the beginning of the call, I told the young woman I was hard of hearing. She proceeded to shout, telling me I would not be able to claim the cost of the new laptop, just the cost of the repair, minus the excess.

I told her there was no need to shout and that she should apologise for discriminating against a disabled person. She said: ‘I am not going to apologise for anything,’ and put the phone down.

I don’t know whether my hearing is getting worse, or the accents at the other end of the phone are getting more unintelligible – it is probably a little bit of both.

The problem is, when you are deaf and unable to see a person in order to lip-read, an accent becomes an extra, almost insurmountable hurdle.

Remote headsets, which most companies now use to avoid lawsuits for repetitive strain injury, are to a deaf person what a step is to a wheelchair user.

And while the subtitles on Sky TV are very good, those on Virgin Media are badly spelt and hopelessly ill-timed. The subtitles on iTunes don’t work at all, while the maximum volume setting is uselessly low.

I think there is a reason for the hostility I encounter on the phone to these banking and insurance call centres: because I keep saying I have no idea what they are saying, and could they please speak more clearly, they become offended because they clearly think their English is good enough to work in the services industry. It isn’t.

Being deaf leaves you permanently bewildered. Boarding announcements at ¬airports are just a noise. I can’t tell you how many flights I’ve missed because of mumbled messages.

While people with other disabilities seem to be met with sympathy, deaf people inspire open hostility.

I was in Africa recently with a really arrogant male photographer. I was finding our heavily accented, whispering African translator hard going, so I had to employ the services of an English aid worker, meaning there was a chain of three people to ask a poor starving mother each question.

‘I don’t see how you can do your job being so deaf,’ the photographer said to me. Actually, you moron, women respond to my disability in a way that makes us bond a little. I didn’t say to him: ‘Well, you are a large male among breast-feeding Muslims, so maybe you’re the person who is out of his depth.’

Of course, there are lots of indigenous people I cannot under¬stand. You would not believe the number of people out there who whisper. Why?

I am convinced the softly spoken are passive aggressive nightmares who want everyone to hang on their every word and act as if everything they say is of some confidential import.

Shall I tell you why deafness gets no truck, no special treatment, no politeness? It’s because it is seen as the disease of the old.

You are deemed to be batty and ignorable. A cloth-eared bint, to coin Basil Fawlty.

Will there be special races for the deaf at the Paralympics? I doubt it. We deaf are life’s ¬losers, always missing the good bits.

Always the last to know anything. Always being shouted at.
 
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A very bitter woman. :(

I knew she had a problem as soon as she said..... I hate being deaf.
 
Sounds like this woman needs to get involved with the Deaf community there and learn sign language instead of living in this miserable extistence.

Besides the comment about Paralympics....she apparently doesnt know about Deaflympics.
 
Sounds like this woman needs to get involved with the Deaf community there and learn sign language instead of living in this miserable extistence.

Besides the comment about Paralympics....she apparently doesnt know about Deaflympics.

She has this attitude that the world owes her, since she is deaf. A very negative woman.

I agree. Hopefully she can accept her deafness, and learn about and get invovled with the Deaf community. She "may" be a much happier person. Sometimes there is no pleasing people, and I get a feeling she is one of them.
 
Well, she's British and from what I know/hear, the British/UK deafies get treated a lot worse than us here in the States.....
 
Well, she's British and from what I know/hear, the British/UK deafies get treated a lot worse than us here in the States.....

Maybe Lissa can clarify for us. It seems that she is not getting treated badly.
 
no, i agree with the woman, basically you cant just get an interpreter just to ask for a computer to be looked and or fixed, she is very clear about there is still ALOT of ignorances out there, and yes shame about lack of exposure on Deaflympics , even here its hardly noticed by anyone, she's got a point because paralympics are communicated abroad the hearing world in hearing people's mode of communication.
i dont blame her...and its not nice to say she's bitter, she has every right to me, given the experiences she had. She just need more exposure and more know-how from the Deaf community, AND dare i say a LOT of ignorance or unawareness of things like tiny details in 'everyday life' is still rubbed off "inn case you'd look like a one with a chip on the shoulder' so that results denial in the deaf community too!
so no, im not gonna pretend its all wonderful but I Do agree she has to know when it stops, so to not let it interfere with her overall perception in life....

'accepting deafness' isnt as simple as 'i like my being deaf' it takes courage, and time to actually change around and, lastly its not acceptable to say "Sometimes there is no pleasing people, and I get a feeling she is one of them", this is not the as saying you cant please everybody [about things] , but laying the blame on a person to summerise that person to be deemed 'impossible' is not fair..there's a LOT we may not know [about her] AND alot that she doesnt know about herself {apart from her keen observation - which to say good on her to know that Apple have wankers in there but of it 'perfect people images' which Apple lauds it over customers...
she just didnt have a chance or likely to be in a the WRONG place to have an oppurtunity to a more favourable life...like other Apple stores might have more understanding staff, learning that using the phone for her is actually counter-productive, so other communication means are better options BUT BUT hearing people needs to Learn too !!
so , nah no need to put her down she had to vent somehow...
 
She has this attitude that the world owes her,,

FUCKING hearing people DO owes us a HUGE fucking apology

get off the pop pyschology bullshit about negative vs positive, thats utter bullshit is just giving you an excuse to deny how this really is, it IS shitty.

Im sure the woman DO have something to be 'positive' about just because its an article sometimes it can give a very one sided view of the story or issues or description of the person...
blah i need to go to bed..
 
She has this attitude that the world owes her,,

FUCKING hearing people DO owes us a HUGE fucking apology

get off the pop pyschology bullshit about negative vs positive, thats utter bullshit is just giving you an excuse to deny how this really is, it IS shitty.

Im sure the woman DO have something to be 'positive' about just because its an article sometimes it can give a very one sided view of the story or issues or description of the person...
blah i need to go to bed..

That's true...:hmm:
 
She could be having a bad day or it's the time of the month :lol:

Well, I don't use the phone so I don't have that problem. I use email or writing to them if necessary. Plus don't most airport have screens e.g it will have gate number and boarding/ go to lounge written on them.

What she wrote seems a bit unreal, I have never really had a person be rude to me because I'm deaf.

Life in the UK isn't that bad
 
She has this attitude that the world owes her,,

FUCKING hearing people DO owes us a HUGE fucking apology

get off the pop pyschology bullshit about negative vs positive, thats utter bullshit is just giving you an excuse to deny how this really is, it IS shitty.

Im sure the woman DO have something to be 'positive' about just because its an article sometimes it can give a very one sided view of the story or issues or description of the person...
blah i need to go to bed..

It is the impression I got from the article... and of course my opinion is based on this article.

She is the one that wrote it.. so it is her feelings. She is venting/bitching about her deafness.

It is still a very negative article, and I feel sorry for her to feel that way. No one should have to feel that way. I do not deny she may have a rough life. I have not once denied that.

Just like your post. It is a venting pissy post too.

Good night.. Hope you get some rest. :)
 
It seems an attitude often seen in late deafened people. They do have a hard time adjusting and see lots of slights against them.
 
yeah, but if we make deaf friends we get the heck over ourselves, grab our boot straps and make the best of it. One day we wake up and go.... what was I pissy about???

She needs her own personal Jillio and Bottesini. Trust me, that would help set her aright!

Soon, we just go on with it, our vents are just vents, sometimes its with language, tell me a hearie hasnt dissed a goof ball for innapropriate or improper language.

Then, she "tells" them. That automatically sends a big ol' Yah, right!! to the listener. Good luck to her. Poor thing.
 
It seems an attitude often seen in late deafened people. They do have a hard time adjusting and see lots of slights against them.

I don't think I have an attitude about it. To be honest I'm terrified of learning a whole new world I am now apart it, and yes I have had some hard times during this adjustment. I didn't plug in my caption phone for months because to me I would have to relies my hearing is not coming back.


I started the late deafened journey at 12. Doctors say you don't need a hearing aid at the time and Menieres almost NEVER goes for the other ear. Si I lived my dizzy life hoping that was the worst. I didn't worry about the future at all. 10 years later my other year got it. And now I'm unprepared I don't know ASL or anything about the deaf culture. I would love and need to be more involved.

As a late deafened person as of last Aug. The changes are scary to thing about, a whole new world we have to enter and know nothing about. I get frustrated on my cell phone. Something I was able to do with no problems. Now I don't answer the phone. Movie theaters I use subtitles so my mom goes back with this rearview mirror thing. Lol I felt like I should have stood up and explained it so they would not staring. Then to cap it off the subtitles didn't work.

To me people that are born deaf have it a little easier, you have your family right from the beginning they well be there very step of the way. Maybe because sounds were not Present you learned how to use ASL as a first language, as your parents learned it as their second.

Us late bloomers were taught to be hearies. We might not have the family support. Maybe sister is in college across the states. Brother just got married, baby on the way. Mom and dad will come with to classes, but will they retain much?

Just my thoughts
 
My heart goes out to you. Thank you for sharing your struggles with us...I hope along the way you can find a light out of your darkness. Let me know if there is a way I can help support you.
 
I don't think I have an attitude about it. To be honest I'm terrified of learning a whole new world I am now apart it, and yes I have had some hard times during this adjustment. I didn't plug in my caption phone for months because to me I would have to relies my hearing is not coming back.


I started the late deafened journey at 12. Doctors say you don't need a hearing aid at the time and Menieres almost NEVER goes for the other ear. Si I lived my dizzy life hoping that was the worst. I didn't worry about the future at all. 10 years later my other year got it. And now I'm unprepared I don't know ASL or anything about the deaf culture. I would love and need to be more involved.

As a late deafened person as of last Aug. The changes are scary to thing about, a whole new world we have to enter and know nothing about. I get frustrated on my cell phone. Something I was able to do with no problems. Now I don't answer the phone. Movie theaters I use subtitles so my mom goes back with this rearview mirror thing. Lol I felt like I should have stood up and explained it so they would not staring. Then to cap it off the subtitles didn't work.

To me people that are born deaf have it a little easier, you have your family right from the beginning they well be there very step of the way. Maybe because sounds were not Present you learned how to use ASL as a first language, as your parents learned it as their second.

Us late bloomers were taught to be hearies. We might not have the family support. Maybe sister is in college across the states. Brother just got married, baby on the way. Mom and dad will come with to classes, but will they retain much?

Just my thoughts

Vocabulary lesson. Yes you have an attitude. You just described it.

Attitude except to the young slang users only means how you view something.
 
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