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Wow, I didnt know about that 2hot4u aka Taylor which are not good idea it is a trick. Yeah need to move on.

Alex and the mods are doing good job on this AllDeaf site. Keep it up and keep eyes on them before get into trouble. Alex and the mods are doing good hard work on this AllDeaf.

(Sorry my english grammar isnt good at it at all so hope you understand what I am saying, Thanks :) )
 
I been long read i m not superise what happen in past..but I know it's make mistake happen as long I glad that Alex is did righ things to keep eye on them also need move on but not need bring up name cuz we not need worry abt that right now. Since i'm not superise abt this person under same account i m not superise that *smh* (not mean to finger) :eek3: but but I M NOT TAKE ANYONE'S SIDE :nana: ohh one thing I don't care if y'all think that i m take anyone's side so i don't give hoot abt that :D
 
DeafMonkey said:
Wow, I didnt know about that 2hot4u aka Taylor which are not good idea it is a trick. Yeah need to move on.

Alex and the mods are doing good job on this AllDeaf site. Keep it up and keep eyes on them before get into trouble. Alex and the mods are doing good hard work on this AllDeaf.

(Sorry my english grammar isnt good at it at all so hope you understand what I am saying, Thanks :) )
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You not only one! I do my best english grammar!
 
Alex, I'm glad that you stood up yourself here.

You fixed the Rule for your forum. It's our task as adult to follow your Rule. It's members' responsiblity who disown your rules, not you and moderators. Everyone knows what Buckdodger is... and his immaturity talk... Why they continue to harrass him instead of ignore his posts then? BLAME members for their responsiblity who cause to hurt AD Forum Rules, not you & moderators...

Well, we discussed in SpiceHD and Taylor's threads to get Buckdodgers permanently banned after 2nd chance.

I has to honest with you that I KNEW in the beginning in SpiceHD's 1st thread with poll that it's not Buckdodger because my feeling tell me it's not him due his immaturity character... I know he made senseless posts and talk too much but really NOTHING until I saw the proof... I got mixed feeling and doubt until I accept the fact that he use different personailties to play on us. And then Taylor created 2nd thread "Thank you Alex"... Then again lock after 22 pages thread. I thought it's over since Buckdodger banned, Taylor doing his job to take care of and 2hotu2 stood up herself...then is OVER and resolved... I accept the fact that it's OVER and MOVE ON...

Unfortunlately, there're 2 further threads after 2 lock threads, I see that people still are upset and can't move on and feel that this situation in 2 lock threads are not resolved. Do they expect you and moderators watch them 24hours/7 days a week....?

Unfortunlately Buckdodger-haters took member's posts serious and make too far & personal to the public because they thought members "protect" Buckdodger which not...

Oceanbreeze's post
If Buck is so innocent, why was he banned?

If Taylor set him up, why wasn't he banned? In order for that IP to be Taylor's, he would have had to create another acct. That is against AD rules, so why wasn't he banned for that?

I'll leave you guys to wonder.
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Occeanbreeze, you has some good points but we should not judge Taylor yet until we listen his side to the truth first then..... I can't make any comment over Taylor yet...

Thank you for attention... :thumb:
 
Alex said:
Another thing, around the time 2hot4u (the minor in question) was active in the AD community, I checked and realized she was very young. And it was suspicious, too, because of the username she chose "2hot4u." That prompt me to investigate her account and found out that her IP address was associated with Taylor's account. There was no other IP address that pointed somewhere else but Taylor's account. I didn't say anything at first because I wasn't sure what was going on, and I still don't know what the true story is behind it but it lead me to believe that it was a fake, and only Taylor knows the truth.
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I knew it all along..I couldn't help for telling y'all, I told ya so..But..
"I Told Ya So"

Regardless how I feel about what happened to BD/RS.
Yes what he did was wrong no doubt. But if he's never done something like that? Then why do it in the 1st place? Because many don't like him? I mean come on. How would anyone like it if it happened to you? BD/RS may have got sucked into a trap. But its his own fault for falling for it in the 1st place. Should have never screwed around with a minor. Rather the minor was real or not.

Ya know that Alex & The Mods can only do so much & we here at All Deaf can report threads to help them out. Y'all should respect their hard work for trying to make All Deaf a great place to come to. You can have 10 mods & it still be hard or nearly impossible for them to cover everything here at All Deaf.

But creating threads with so much drama over nothing (which I'm not saying anything in-particular) & causing everyone to bash & hate each other...What's that point in that? Ya know, hate me if ya want that's fine with me. I'm not gonna lose no sleep over it. But I've seen it actually hurt some people's feelings & take it so hard.

I do think Taylor has a little more explaining to do. But if he don't, well so be it. Its time to move on & get back to having fun doing what we do here at All Deaf. People come here to get away from drama & stressful times in the game of life. Why get online & deal with it also? Not just here, but anywhere.
 
Well, I have opinions, too but it doesn't look like they are allowed if they go against the grain. So I'll just say, I'm amazed at the destruction of some friendships, of not always knowing where the line in the sand is, etc, etc.....all over the pathetic excuse of a human being that RS is/was.

Gosh, I sure hate tip-toeing around here.......
 
Alex,

I respect the ingereity of the job you have chosen to take on. however, i have a issue with moderators who are not watching these threads/members, sure it has slow down some since the BD banning, but nothingless, the bashing continues and poeple keep warning no bashing but yet there is, you are constantly being questioned by members here who think still not doing the job, u kept alldeaf running for 4 or 5 years. but still the ingereity is in question. too many members ( IM GENERALIZING HERE) are posting negtive results, there RIGHT NOW is a troll posting threading going on and that is also wasting bandwith, you also have allowed TOO many chances here, yes i can understand you have a soft heart, i do respect that but u also need to tighten the rein, no im not saying you are doing a bad job, drama is drama but bashing is something else. im not going to toe the line and say look ur a peice of shitty adminstrator when i know you are not, you worked HARD and got to a point where u need help but, in my opioion. There is no neturality here. a thread gets started within 3 posting later theres a arugement going on by the 4th page u halt it and lock it or moved it for review, please think about this, the damage is done its FAR out of control just QUASH the thread and toss it and let the creator know she's welcometo make another thread but it'll be moderated period.

the minor ( underage kids) issue has been a MAJOR issue for months now and this in itself has been a problem. weather it was a fake or not, we can NOT trust poeple in alldeaf wheather thier our friends or not, we trust ourselves FIRST before we trust anyone else.... So in a essence alex, you need to shorten the reins in here, cut the long strings off and start tuffing ur heart up, its time for alldeaf to get back to its orginality, to learn and to educate and to respect one another, this site has gone to hell that's why i don't post much anymore cuz i have TOO much to do for so little time and when i do come in here theres an fight/bashing going on and i move on to another thread and yet it STILL goes on and on. MY OPIOION, get the threads locked and start cleaning it up before u lose more members.

and i think its time for its winter cleaning meaning get rid of ALL trash ( aka the locked threads) and resetting all posters nbrs back to 0 and starting fresh for 2007

thank you again for listening to my comments


and good luck alex... I still belive in you. you still got the aloha heart, time for pele to start bringing you gifts :)
 
javapride said:
.....resetting all posters nbrs back to 0 and starting fresh for 2007
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And, you want all posters' nbrs back to ZERO and startin' fresh for 2007 ? :ugh2: No way ! :lol: Javapride, I do want to say congrats to some posters with their nbrs growin' as postwhorin'. Gee - why would you want all the posters' nbrs back to 0 ?

*peekin' at my nbrs* Not my nbrs... :slap:
 
Buck isn't so innocent and he got banned within a reason, he was baiting on a minor doesn't matter if that minor wasn't real, he still did was wrong, everyone here knows that without doubt.

the point is I don't like being lied to, after I seen enough evidences and discovered that buckie was taking the bait, it was so easy to get buck to fall for it because he does have a twisted mind of his own, after seeing that he gave a photo of himself to another fake minor, that tells us that he would most likely do it again, which he did. But, if Taylor is really using another account to make a set up, why did he lied to us in public? making us believe that the minor was real, that this minor could get raped or murder. I got gang up by some of you for not being very supportive for this minor, I knew there was something fishy going on, the truth wasn't coming out, that there was some covering up and a few of us have a sense that something is very wrong, that we might have been lied to. I wanted someone to presented me with facts on both sides, which I wasn't getting that, I cannot believe on one side and not looking at both sides, because there is three sides to every story, her/his/the truth. when I spoke up in Taylor's thank you thread to Alex, that there was more to this story that we are not getting the full truth out of, instead some of you ran away with your tail between your legs.

Even my own sister got her address publish right in open forum? Why? because she wanted to know the truth too, she was not even on Buck's side, she believes in innocent until proven guilty.

I don't know where the world is coming to, but honestly some of you are looking at one side, instead of two sides, the truth is out there, and it wasn't even been told fully. We've been lied to in public, we've been lied to almost all our lives by different people, look what is it doing to us? We are ending up assuming, pointing fingers at the wrong people, we are not the ones who did all the things that Buck did, nor what Taylor did, nor what CCSinned did.
 
javapride said:
and i think its time for its winter cleaning meaning get rid of ALL trash ( aka the locked threads) and resetting all posters nbrs back to 0 and starting fresh for 2007
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Respectfully disagree.

Why? because we have many good and positive threads around here which is good education for us and also collect their experiences, that we can learn... I will not repeat any posts to positive threads where I made previous posts before if they remove all threads into 0. I felt it's waste of time... All what I said is forget negative threads and visit positive threads what you like to post.

All what I see that Admin. & moderators did their jobs to remove or lock negative threads which is good enough.
 
Buckdodger admitted that he spoke to her... and vowed his innoncent for sexually contact to her and then blame CCSinned and Taylor to use his name.... Remember?

Yes he talked a lot about teen porn... Oh Well. It's his senseless.... that's how everyone take his talk as advantage... Oh Well...

We debated in Taylor's thread with agree to disagree and saw the point where JLK pointed out in some of his posts and got me doubt...until 2Hot4u's post come...... and then lock... I have to accept the fact and then move on...

Further threads after 2 lock threads, I can understand that the members felt that this issues in 2 lock threads are still not resolved and searching the TRUTH.

Now Alex came to stand himself here... I can't say anymore... All what I want to say that Alex is a good Admin., not prefect like everyone including us... Everyone always make mistakes.

For Taylor, I can't make my comment yet until I heard Taylor's side first then.....

I would advise to wait bit... I am sure that Taylor will read Alex's thread here and post here... I beleive that's what Alex want to hear... before he make his decision.....
 
Something is telling me that Taylor have a reason to set up the fake name in AD to set up the bait. I am sure he is doing his job to catch the suspect. I know you all feel that he have lied to us but that the only way he had to set up the bait for Buck.

I have seen the police work and there is nothing I can do to stop it. Just let them do their job and catch the jerks and get them off the street before hurting anybody else.

Now remmy Taylor made a thread about catching a guy who tried to lure a young girl while he was off duty. Well we all praised for a wonderful job that he have done. So that is part of life to catch the suspect.

I cant blame on anybody but Alex did have a soft hearted and let Buck back into AD so I had no choice but to watch the drama for nothing. Yes I hated it. But now he is no longer here for good and I am moving on. I just feeling relaxing here now without Buck. I admit that I have report on him when he first came into AD but then after that I dont bother post anything in Buck's thread cuz I knew it aint worth it.

It was hard for me but as the day goes by it become easier for me not to post Buck's thread.

I just wanted all to enjoy your stay at AD and enjoy without having Buck here. Just move on since Xmas is coming and we should be enjoy the coming of the holiday as we all will be busy. :D

One more thing Alex and mod, you guys are doing a great job keeping this place a peaceful. Dont ever think you are doing a bad job. It just the way of life and thing to go unexpect happened. It is not your fault. We are learning and maybe will prevent that happening again in the future. :hug:
 
horselover61 said:
Something is telling me that Taylor have a reason to set up the fake name in AD to set up the bait. I am sure he is doing his job to catch the suspect.
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That's what I thought so... That's reason I suggest that we should not judge Taylor yet until we heard his side first then......

I know you all feel that he have lied to us but that the only way he had to set up the bait for Buck.
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I will accept and understand if Taylor explain that it's his job to get the proof. I'm agree that Taylor should have talk Alex first. Alex didn't know until he found out himself which is not right.

I have seen the police work and there is nothing I can do to stop it. Just let them do their job and catch the jerks and get them off the street before hurting anybody else.
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True, but I rather to wait until Taylor make his post here first then....

Now remmy Taylor made a thread about catching a guy who tried to lure a young girl while he was off duty. Well we all praised for a wonderful job that he have done. So that is part of life to catch the suspect.
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Yes I didn't forget it.

I just wanted all to enjoy your stay at AD and enjoy without having Buck here. Just move on since Xmas is coming and we should be enjoy the coming of the holiday as we all will be busy. :D

One more thing Alex and mod, you guys are doing a great job keeping this place a peaceful. Dont ever think you are doing a bad job. It just the way of life and thing to go unexpect happened. It is not your fault. We are learning and maybe will prevent that happening again in the future. :hug:
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I was just thinkin' supposely if, Taylor was usin' a " male " screen name instead of that girl - will you, Alex ban any AD female member who baits just like Buck did to that girl ? Let's just sayin' that this " male " screen name is just a teen ? Hmm... I was just thinkin' the opposite and what would you ( Alex ) do with her if, it wasn't for Buck to bait ?

I mean, it could be anyone if, it wasn't for Taylor to use another screen name in his account. Anybody could fool anybody... and for that, for what ? Oh, just to see if, Alex can get rid of that person, just because no one likes that person ? Or does that had to do with the nbrs of complaint before Alex could get rid of that person ?

It's hard to make friends for others.
 
I got a few words to say on here, I know it was wrong BUT.....


Do you even know HALF of the people on Alldeaf? You don't even know who is a minor or a adult, never know because nobody isn't going to tell the truth about themself. They may be adults but you never know whats behind the computer. People are always going to fill you up with crap ideas to make you think it's all true. Never believe unless you see it with your own eyes. I know some of you met up with some of the Aders which I know some of you guys are tight with eachother which it's all great but if a newbie or others that you don't personally know, don't always trust them. Always wait and see it with your own eyes if it's the truth or not.


By the way, nobody wasn't pointing fingers, but calling out the names? It can be A lot better on Alldeaf!




It's my 2 cent...


Have a beauitful day!
 
Hey, I thought I read Taylor saying TooHotfouru gave her permission to use her password to open her username here to help her to catch RS in real life? Thats explain why Alex see the same IP address!! ??

I miss out a lots of soap operas here and didn't read all.
 
Cheri said:
Buck isn't so innocent and he got banned within a reason, he was baiting on a minor doesn't matter if that minor wasn't real, he still did was wrong, everyone here knows that without doubt.

the point is I don't like being lied to, after I seen enough evidences and discovered that buckie was taking the bait, it was so easy to get buck to fall for it because he does have a twisted mind of his own, after seeing that he gave a photo of himself to another fake minor, that tells us that he would most likely do it again, which he did. But, if Taylor is really using another account to make a set up, why did he lied to us in public? making us believe that the minor was real, that this minor could get raped or murder. I got gang up by some of you for not being very supportive for this minor, I knew there was something fishy going on, the truth wasn't coming out, that there was some covering up and a few of us have a sense that something is very wrong, that we might have been lied to. I wanted someone to presented me with facts on both sides, which I wasn't getting that, I cannot believe on one side and not looking at both sides, because there is three sides to every story, her/his/the truth. when I spoke up in Taylor's thank you thread to Alex, that there was more to this story that we are not getting the full truth out of, instead some of you ran away with your tail between your legs.

Even my own sister got her address publish right in open forum? Why? because she wanted to know the truth too, she was not even on Buck's side, she believes in innocent until proven guilty.

I don't know where the world is coming to, but honestly some of you are looking at one side, instead of two sides, the truth is out there, and it wasn't even been told fully. We've been lied to in public, we've been lied to almost all our lives by different people, look what is it doing to us? We are ending up assuming, pointing fingers at the wrong people, we are not the ones who did all the things that Buck did, nor what Taylor did, nor what CCSinned did.
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True i agree with you Cheri, Also i m not superise that someone give out that ^Angel^'s address publish open front forum which not right! but We need find out WHO or HOW get her's address out?? also How can we know this person who use same account?? as long We need watch our back and watch out cuz neve know it's can lie to us and look make like bad :eek3:
 
Thats it. It states... Then, a detective took over her account with her permission. That was THEN. And it shouldn't have shown up under a similiar IP address that compared to Taylor's own, but under the detective's.

That was over a couple months ago. By now, she should have her account back, and it should have reverted back to her own IP address.

I'm not demeaning Taylor, no, no, just that there are too many sides to this whole story... and none of them are meshing as smoothly as they should be. Maybe it needs a bit of oiling?

Anyway, what's done is done.

Taylor said:
While I appreciate it, there was a reason I had requested this thread be closed further back. I really wanted an honest, open discussion about what had occurred. I think that is important for everyone. Once it appeared that the thread had run its course, i was concerned the flaming would start and the thread would go *poof* entirely. I openly encourage discussion about what happened. I do hate to see the flaming against other members though. For me, flaming me is not an issue. I did not become a cop to participate in popularity contests. Additionally, even after all of the above has been said, I still can go to sleep at night knowing the right thing was done..and was done honestly. Some people can flame me all they want, but I hate to see the infighting between other members. I also hate to see a good discussion get trashed. So if people want to discuss it, then fine but please keep the personal attacks to a minimum.
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The flaming has already happened, damage was done. Some members were banned, one permamently banned for posting personal information. There were personal attacks, especially against two people. Even the young teenager, she has been attacked for her part in this, too, along with Taylor. As it stands, this issue is still dividing the AllDeaf community.

2hot4u said:
those of you that told me to stay here this is what im talking about. black cloud will always be with me here over this even after long time.
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This was brought up again, in a different thread. Again, the age issue was brought up, and the whole situation was kept alive by keeping up remarks on the RS/BD situation.

As long as you all keep bringing it up, the flaming, insulting and so-called "innocent remarks" will continue. More members will be hurt, and even banned for the attacks or remarks that clearly state the issue.

I understand that some of you want to talk it all out, but it will not work out anymore. It just won't, not when some of you are still insistent on clearly outlining the line between those groups that would have it one way or another.

I feel that this issue has run its course, and to continue it, would be demerimental to AllDeaf.

My two cents - and yes, I will keep spending those two cents over and over as I see fit.
 
Liebling:-))) said:
Respectfully disagree.

Why? because we have many good and positive threads around here which is good education for us and also collect their experiences, that we can learn... I will not repeat any posts to positive threads where I made previous posts before if they remove all threads into 0. I felt it's waste of time... All what I said is forget negative threads and visit positive threads what you like to post.

All what I see that Admin. & moderators did their jobs to remove or lock negative threads which is good enough.
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yea i agree with u.. i dont agree with javepride for this.. cuz of have many good and postive threads here.. so better not do this..
 
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