I disagree in movie theater!

You're the one who said "shut up kid" in a post that I quoted.

Wow. Holy crap. GAY?? How on earth did that get into it? And "I am not here to be a trouble-maker" directly contradicts what you said before "I like to debate here, they just pour out their true identities." Do you even realize what you are saying? Girly girly? Wow. Maybe you haven't seen the movie "Mean Girls" then.

You are a really amazing person.




Yeah, one statement is not consistent with the other statement. That means they contradict each other "I'm not here to cause trouble" does not contradict "I'm here to debate" cuz they are not opposites. You can debate without causing trouble.

As long the people debating are both mature and intelligent and don't get all emotional or use insults, then a debate is trouble free =0)
 
As long the people debating are both mature and intelligent and don't get all emotional or use insults, then a debate is trouble free =0)
So you don't think "r u gay" and "girly girly" are insults? Because as a gay person and a girl, I find them pretty insulting.
 
So you don't think "r u gay" and "girly girly" are insults? Because as a gay person and a girl, I find them pretty insulting.


Oh I see...welll...

I'm sorry I have to disagree with you. It's a confront (one one one) I do not find any insulting. I approach a person who came in my face. I gave a concept of what person talked direct me. It's nothing personal.


GAY? hmm...can't I asked for a question????

Girly Girly I have two balls with a baseball bat, I do not represent myself as a girly girly...


:afro:
 
Oh I see...welll...

I'm sorry I have to disagree with you. It's a confront (one one one) I do not find any insulting. I approach a person who came in my face. I gave a concept of what person talked direct me. It's nothing personal.


GAY? hmm...can't I asked for a question????

Girly Girly I have two balls with a baseball bat, I do not represent myself as a girly girly...


:afro:

This is ridiculous. You will make up anything you like to justify your statements. If you truly don't understand why "gay" and "girly girly" are insulting the way you used them, then I don't see how I can possibly educate you. To me it is obvious how they are offensive, if it's not obvious to you too, well, I give up. :crazy:
 
This is ridiculous. You will make up anything you like to justify your statements. If you truly don't understand why "gay" and "girly girly" are insulting the way you used them, then I don't see how I can possibly educate you. To me it is obvious how they are offensive, if it's not obvious to you too, well, I give up. :crazy:

LOL!!!! come on I understand about gay and girly girly. can't i asked!?! it's not a make up statement, it's a truth!
 
What's the deal with you? r u gay? you have alot of misjudge against me. why can't I say something and you didn't like it?

Serious I am not here to get trouble-maker I am here to make myself saying as a blunt, doesnt have to be that way. what do you expect me to say? be nice and girly girly thing? COME ON! this is who I am and you cannot deal with it. you're f.u.cking insane (excuse me for my language and that's the way I am)

I like to say it outloud and let them know why I say something unexpect. they may be come in my face ask me why and not telling me some b.ullsh.iting issues.
therefore...you think u are all that? and nobody give a shit about "perfect world" still a lame excuse.


It has nothing to do with my age being older for the people! I do not need to compare ages to ages.


you from southern california? b.ullsh.it if you came from southern californian, you should know that there is a closed caption theatre every week! Every new movie each week, depend on what they give a disc near my place.

Plus I did not say about united states with a closed captions I told you once again "california" meaning of what? california! dang...you're telling me i never been outside of california? what the f.uck?...how did you know???? u mean I wasn't born and raised in new york city and used to live in florida when I finished graduated schools... then I met my wife in washingon d.c. and I never gone travel outside of usa? you think i grew up here?!?!? becareful what you just said. I am not here to hate you or whatever you think. please enough for that s.hit. I know for the facts that I've been there outside of united states.

one more thing to say...you're right about canada and mexico are not same, come on don't make it like you know more than I do! I've been there a several countries, where I met deafies. I went there and see myself. I want to help them, you know why? they broke my heart! they dont have what I have! I am not talking about rich people high classes sh.it...i am talking about poorest deaf people I gave them money to support whatever they needs and some love and respect. don't tell me that I never been experienced, an immature or whatever you have come in a quick judge.

my english levels have nothing to do with intelligent levels like your or everyone. I see them are better than me. trust me I know! I still have a good points on my street smart, you f.ucker.

Yes I am gay. Do you have problem with that?

If you're not troublemaker... You should re-read what you just said... You just started the drama here. Look at yourself at the mirror and see who is girly man... That is you. Look at you, you're bitching here.

Well I lived in Bakersfield, Santa Clarita, San Diego, Point Loma, and Ventura before. Yeah, I moved alot in my lifetime. At my time, there were almost no open capiton movie theatre existed in my areas. Remember I said I left in August 2002. I am sure it changed so much since I left.

You kept saying CALIFORNIA, CALIFORNIA, CALIFORNIA, blah blah blah. You NEVER MENTION any states outside of California. That made you sounds like you never been outside of California. Please be careful with your words. Your words left us bad impression of you. If you want to take it seriously, please start treat us the same as you want to be treated. Name calling isn't necessary, that is verbal abuse period.

However, I met many Deaf Canadians, they're doing pretty fine. They doesn't have same rights as well as Deaf Americans do. Most of them told me that they rather to live in USA instead of Canada because they wants to have same right as we do. As for Deaf Mexicans... In my experience, they are not always get educated or had very limited social life by fewer vocabulary and most of them never heard of USA until their parents or relatives bought them to USA. Almost every Deaf Mexican I met in California are often pick the stuff up faster and improved their social skills. Also they got better education. More than half of them made it all the way to college. I am very proud of them.
 
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Americans, please do not speak for the Deaf Canadians. I do not appreciate it.

I'm Canadian, I don't need to read Americans making claims about the Deaf Canadians when it come to rights. Let us speak up on these issues.
 
Yes I am gay. Do you have problem with that?

If you're not troublemaker... You should re-read what you just said... You just started the drama here. Look at yourself at the mirror and see who is girly man... That is you. Look at you, you're bitching here.

Well I lived in Bakersfield, Santa Clarita, San Diego, Point Loma, and Ventura before. Yeah, I moved alot in my lifetime. At my time, there were almost no open capiton movie theatre existed in my area. Remember I said I left in August 2002. I am sure it changed so much since I left.

You kept saying CALIFORNIA, CALIFORNIA, CALIFORNIA, blah blah blah. You NEVER MENTION any states outside of California. That made you sounds like you never been outside of California. Please be careful with your words. Your words left us bad impression of you. If you want to take it seriously, please start treat us the same as you want to be treated. Name calling isn't necessary, that is verbal abuse period.

However, I met many Deaf Canadians, they're doing pretty fine. They doesn't have same rights as well as Deaf Americans do. Most of them told me that they rather to live in USA instead of Canada because they wants to have same right as we do. As for Deaf Mexicans... In my experience, they are not always get educated or had very limited social life by fewer vocabulary and most of them never heard of USA until their parents or relatives bought them to USA. Almost every Deaf Mexican I met in California are often pick the stuff up faster and improved their social skills. Also they got better education. More than half of them made it all the way to college. I am very proud of them.

Nah I don't have any problem with gay people. it's only a question!

http://www.alldeaf.com/topic-debates/23685-free-will-fate.html#post441762

let me get the quoted from THE HERETIC

Be careful for what you wish for, winter knight, for you just might get it!

:lol:

Free will is the invention of theologians. First of all, free will is incoherent, and second of all, it cannot be proven through self-awareness.

Argument #1

All versions of the free will doctrine are incoherent and fundamentally opposed to the basic presuppositions of human comprehension. This argument is based on the simple idea that human will contains certain elements that allow us to judge other people's character, and that in the absence of these elements, it would make no sense to hold anybody responsible for what they have done. If human beings really had free will in the traditional sense of the concept, their behavior would be inextricably unfathomable.

Schopenhauer - as one of the few philosophers to really explicate what is at issue in the whole debate since Will is the centerpiece of his philosophy - shows that, under the assumption of freedom of the will, a man's "character must be from the very beginning a tabula rasa... and cannot have any inborn inclination to one side or the other." This point of view, however, would utterly destroy the conception of human nature illustrated by the classics of literature and the researches of social scientists. Under the free will premise, individuals would have no set character at all, and people in general would have no common nature. It would be useless to study the humanities or the social sciences in order to learn about human beings, because there is no common human nature. Either human beings are the products of pure chance, or they would be spontaneous "self-creators," devising their personalities ex nihilo, out of nothing.

If this is the case, then free will has dire philosophical implications its advocates are terribly ignorant of. However, LaRochefoucauld is right when he said that none of us have the strength to follow all the implications of our reasoning.

Argument #2

Free will cannot be proven through self-awareness, because sifting through one’s own self-awareness will only locate the illusion of freedom. Self-awareness is what’s leftover after all the “awareness of other things” has been eliminated. Since the awareness of other things is almost ubiquitous, all-encompassing, then analyzing self-awareness itself will be rather difficult. A person becomes aware of him/herself as of something that wills. The self that does not direct awareness outwards is a willing self. However, the “will” of a person is not limited to the realized acts of the will or the formal decisions, for it also includes emotions, passions, ranging from the intentional ones such as desiring, striving, wishing, longing, yearning, hoping, loving, rejoicing to the negative ones – repunging, detesting, fleeing, fear, anger, and etc.

All these aspects of the will, although internal, are always related to something external, for they are directed towards at or by the object of concern. Those external things do not belong to the realm of self-awareness, but to the “awareness of other things.” Therefore, if self-awareness is the awareness that always directly accompanies the event of the will, then it can never reach beyond that internally experiencable event in itself. Self-experienced will is found at the beginning of self-awareness, and cannot be otherwise, because awareness must be switched off against external things that may stimulate the will by motivation or causation.

The belief that I am free because my actions depend on my will is a self-deception because once the will itself becomes action it is no longer free. Otherwise, I would be free to will. However, this cannot be the case from the perspective of self-awareness, because according to self-awareness, the will is primal, and primarily basic – I know what I want only after I already will it. All we have is the ex post facto awareness of our own will. Consequently, we cannot know whether the will itself is free from self-awareness. Stepping outside of the inner world, towards the world of things, people, objects that act upon my will, condition it, and suggest motivations, the world of causality.



this is what I am going to say it again...once again...

There is no confusion here ...

Looks like I contradicted myself with "gay" and "girly girl" and saying lets debate like mature adults and no name calling, heh I can win debates by using logic and facts and mocking the ignorant people, but if I sink to their level and call names I lose. I can confront people but I gotta pay the price, and that is losing the debate. Calling someone gay is as weak as calling someone a nigga or wetback spic.

Whether they're a faggot or a tough NFL linebacker doesn't matter because their argument does not depend on their identity. A sissy or a UFC champ can say something and the truth of their statement has nothing to do with their identity.


Let's get back to the points again....

I don't care what you said...it's nothing personal...:afro:
 
Looks like I contradicted myself with "gay" and "girly girl" and saying lets debate like mature adults and no name calling, heh I can win debates by using logic and facts and mocking the ignorant people, but if I sink to their level and call names I lose. I can confront people but I gotta pay the price, and that is losing the debate. Calling someone gay is as weak as calling someone a nigga or wetback spic.

Whether they're a faggot or a tough NFL linebacker doesn't matter because their argument does not depend on their identity. A sissy or a UFC champ can say something and the truth of their statement has nothing to do with their identity.
You got it! :ty:
 
What I'm seeing here are people misreading and misunderstanding posts by someone. It's happened to me before that I got warned by Roadrunner for it and I can only blame it on the lack of proper literacy command by a few people here who get upset so easily.

Richard
 
Wow, glad I wasn't the only one who saw him as being totally antagonistic without contributing any real value to the board.
 
One less bashing member... zero to go :ty: Alex!

agree with you ha unbelievable scoffs

anyway
i have one movie theater near my home use OC but not so often but have one one hour away show oc movies once a week but gas price have gone up ugh anyway shrugs

i feel it is not fair when all theatres have lot of movie "rooms" why can we just would have one "room" for oc then everyone would have other one "room" for same movie i hate when people complain about it ugh just ignore them we deafies have right to see movies in theatre just like everybody else we are not animals like we not allow to watch movies we are humans too just like to watch movies just like everybody sighs
 
agree with you ha unbelievable scoffs

anyway
i have one movie theater near my home use OC but not so often but have one one hour away show oc movies once a week but gas price have gone up ugh anyway shrugs

i feel it is not fair when all theatres have lot of movie "rooms" why can we just would have one "room" for oc then everyone would have other one "room" for same movie i hate when people complain about it ugh just ignore them we deafies have right to see movies in theatre just like everybody else we are not animals like we not allow to watch movies we are humans too just like to watch movies just like everybody sighs

A large percentage of people are pretty self-centered when it comes to entertainment.
 
I agree.

Also one thing bothered me so much about movie theatres in the general... They're being unfair to people with wheelchairs... Many movie theatres I went to... I noticed that they only made special spots for wheelchairs that always at the front of the audience. I don't think these people with wheelchairs would enjoy the movies by having to look up all the time. I think they should make rooms for people with wheelchairs at any part of the audience without having to put them in the front.
 
Why should I go to movie theatres? Is it worth going there and slipping in the narrow aisles to find yourself with about 50 candy wrappers, straws , popcorn, sunflower seeds sticking to your clothes?

I'm patient enough to wait till it gets on the internet and dvds to see the flixes.

Richard
 
I agree.

Also one thing bothered me so much about movie theatres in the general... They're being unfair to people with wheelchairs... Many movie theatres I went to... I noticed that they only made special spots for wheelchairs that always at the front of the audience. I don't think these people with wheelchairs would enjoy the movies by having to look up all the time. I think they should make rooms for people with wheelchairs at any part of the audience without having to put them in the front.

yeah ramps would work leave a spot or 2 or give a whole row free of chairs in the middle not so far from the screen
 
Why should I go to movie theatres? Is it worth going there and slipping in the narrow aisles to find yourself with about 50 candy wrappers, straws , popcorn, sunflower seeds sticking to your clothes?

I'm patient enough to wait till it gets on the internet and dvds to see the flixes.

Richard

It is nice to get out of the house on a rainy day.. and a good movie every now and then in the theatres is really fun. My daughter loves it better than the DVDs so I take her even though there is no captioning most of the times. Oh well...
 
The demand for open captioning isn't high. Most theatres just don't think about it.. Just like (as someone mentioned earlier) If I went to a foreign film in French or some other language I don't understand, they don't have to caption it for me in English. It would be nice if they did. But unless a whole bunch of people went to the movie theatre and requested English subtitles on that movie, then it's not worth it to them to add them.

There are a whole bunch of people here who want OC, but you're not all going to the same theatre. One person going to one theatre to make a request isn't really "demand."

P.S. I would love OC on movies. My CC is always on my TV and I watch all DVDs with subtitles on, even though I'm hearing.
 
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