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Cheri

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I came across this blogging about a parent who were disgusted by the fact that they were not even allow to use signs with their daughter, when she wanted to uses signs with her daughter, and instead they're telling her it's a big "no no". :ugh3:

Do parents make their own informed decision or forced by guilt from AGBell and their associates?

Read this comment that I got today which may be common to many parents of deaf babies…

In 1995 a miracle took place in Lafayette, IN. A young couple in their very early 20’s had a given birth to a deaf baby. The medical professional’s gave the “hearing impaired” diagnosis with much grief. We were sent out into the world to raise a “handicapped” child without any referrals but a pat on the back for good luck.
Ahhh…so much research on a mother’s behalf…the loss of self and employment to figure out how to best raise a deaf baby.

Despite the extreme emphasis on speech and hearing and getting the cochlear implant…my husband and I couldn’t just dump off our baby at a local daycare with hopes that “everything would be fine” while the only stimulation offered by staff would only be auditory. The First Steps Early Intervention Program for Special Needs offered talking directly into my baby’s face and loud toys and music with hopes for a miracle of hearing something…anything! I couldn’t rest at night knowing my baby would be bored all day without visual stimulation. I set out to learn sign language! I contacted the library for video’s, local schools, childhood deaf peers and public school interpreters. I made long distant phone calls to every state to find out the current belief system and medical outlook on “how to raise a deaf child” and was referred to the John Tracy Clinic, Hear Indiana, Shhhh, and AGB. I did the John Tracy Clinic parent coorespondent “courses” and copied signs from the “Joys of Sign Language Book” while scotch taping the signs to my walls in our apartment. Our daughter went to speech therapy and I learned signs on my own. Something was missing though…the signs weren’t grammatical and speech was not working. I hadn’t met any deaf adults! Where were they? Riley Hospital offered nothing to us. No support for meeting the Deaf Community. We discontinued our daughter’s hearing tests there after it was determined our services were no longer welcomed nor needed because we didn’t want a hole drilled into our child’s head with hopes for hearing.
In the meantime, our baby was growing and increasingly bored and just looked into space for anything stimulating to catch her eye.

When my husband, (Purdue Graduate), and I were denied ANY sign language resources and support from Purdue’s Speech and Hearing Clinic….our persistence paid off!!! Despite the “professional” advice from the clinic…we found the Deaf Community and learned ASL. I drove from Lafayette to the deaf school in Indianapolis four days a week. My daugher was 12 months. I drove home at the end of the school day with my eyes burning and dry. This was a LONG day often followed by migrane headaches but well worth every cent and every minute. My mind racing with excitement to teach the ASL signs to my husband after he would return home from work or Purdue classes. Each new sign was documented on the refridgerator as we were finally able to communicate with our baby girl! A connection was made and we started feeling closer as a family! My sadness towards having given birth to a deaf baby was no longer a daily struggle. She would be just fine as long as we kept her within the Deaf Community.

Our daughter is now 12 yrs old and functioning on a “normal” level academically, socially, emotionally and intellectually! She is a bright little lady with much to offer the world! She is happy and doing well in life despite what we were told from THE CLINIC at Purdue. (Chasing down a deaf employee in the halls of the clinic and having a meeting WITHOUT an interpreter paid off! I still have the notes from that meeting and the deaf man advocating ASL and not the implant.)

Ironically, this meeting took place in a waiting room in Purdue’s Speech & Hearing Clinic while the snooty secretary informed me of no sign language resources and passed judgement and “abuse” issues onto me for wanting to learn ASL as a way to raise our daughter.

I wonder how many other parents went through such discrimination before giving in to the “professionals” who seem to have it all figured out when it comes to hearing parents giving birth to deaf babies!
I hope that Purdue’s clinic will change their philosophy and mission…PLEASE listen to the Deaf Community and parents having walked the halls of the clinic seeking to learn sign language with OR without the use of the implant and speech. I was encouraged to purchase musical toys and put the volume on high with hopes that my daughter would some day hear any level on the auditory scale. Instead my husband and I raised our hands and learned ASL!
The “professionals” seem to be the ones that are handicapped!! A speech referral is easy to make! Driving to the clinic is easy! Being a deaf child and having to focus on hours upon hours of speech and then constantly expected to improve is not easy and is abuse! Expecting parents to shutup and follow the medical advice of speech therapy is unethical! If a mother of four raises each of her children to be disciplined the same way…resentment and ineffective results occur. Why? Because each person is different and has different ways of learning. Each person has ethical rights to be offered accommodations, respect, and love through acceptance. The same goes for the Deaf. Deaf people have the same emotions as hearing.
The Deaf Community is beautiful and no medical “professionals” will ever understand by remaining one sided. I hope something good will come out of this weekend at Purdue!
May the force be at Purdue this weekend and touch a “professional” to change his/her way of belief.



A Comment from Hearing Parent
 
wow! :gpost: and very insightful into what a hearing parent faces after having given birth to a deaf child!

Cheri, that post says more than any and all the bickering in here ever could!

:gpost: girl!
 
Things like this have been going on for too long. Despite the advances in cognitive and linguistic reasearch indicating that the use of signs does not interfere with spoken language and in fact, enhances both language acquisition and educational achievement, the oral organizations such as A.G. Bell, and the individuals hanging onto these outdated and innacurrate beliefs continue to prey upon the parent of the newly diagnosed deaf child with their propoganda. Rather than supporting both parent and child by using those tools available that have been proven, over time and consistently, to provide the most benefit for the deaf child, they create additional difficulties for both the deaf child and the parents. :rl:

I can completely relate to what this parent encountered. I was told not to use sign with my son 21 years ago, and after taking the time to inform myself of the issues and what my son's actual needs were as a deaf child, I told the oralist professionals to kiss my arse, so to speak.
 
I think it's awesome she learned sign to communicate with her daughter.

What floors me is that the receptionist thought that the blogger had abuse issues for wanting to learn ASL. I think it's abuse to have no access to communication.
 
Yeah, sad state of affairs for most parents and that needs to be changed....
 
Yet there are those that continue to insist that situations like this NEVER happen! Go figure!
 
Yet there are those that continue to insist that situations like this NEVER happen! Go figure!

I think most people use their personal experience as a benchmark. The internet opens others eyes to different experiences in different parts of the country.
 
Yet there are those that continue to insist that situations like this NEVER happen! Go figure!

I agree...

Audis, doctors, speech therapists and oral deaf education teachers who give that misconception about sign language to parents of newly diagnosed deaf children are doing those children a huge disservice.

Purdue Speech and Hearing Clinic:rl::rl::rl:

See where the mother stated:


PLEASE listen to the Deaf Community and parents having walked the halls of the clinic seeking to learn sign language with OR without the use of the implant and speech.

I :applaud: these parents for taking the Deaf community's input.
 
I think most people use their personal experience as a benchmark. The internet opens others eyes to different experiences in different parts of the country.

Agreed. However, there still seem to be those that contiue to insist that things like this NEVER happen despite evidence to the contrary.
 
Agreed. However, there still seem to be those that contiue to insist that things like this NEVER happen despite evidence to the contrary.

Oh I have seen that too. I was practically accused of being a liar when I explained my experience of clinics or "professionals" brainwashing people with that kind of view.
 
Oh I have seen that too. I was practically accused of being a liar when I explained my experience of clinics or "professionals" brainwashing people with that kind of view.

I can agree it does happen(that's a change for me). I just have not experienced anything like that. We do have to agree that there are wonderful audies on the other end.
 
Oh I have seen that too. I was practically accused of being a liar when I explained my experience of clinics or "professionals" brainwashing people with that kind of view.

Yeppers.. We have both all but been called liars on that account.
 
I can agree it does happen(that's a change for me). I just have not experienced anything like that. We do have to agree that there are wonderful audies on the other end.

I agree that there are wonderful audies but it seems like that number is small.
 
Oh I have seen that too. I was practically accused of being a liar when I explained my experience of clinics or "professionals" brainwashing people with that kind of view.

Yea, they just don't want to believe that they're been brainwashed by those professionals they would like to think that the choice or decision they made was based on the researches they seek. (*cough* Yea, right! ) :ugh3:
 
After I became deaf at age 2, my parents were frequently told by "professionals" to NOT use sign language or gestures with me, in attempts to force me to use my voice and learn speech. But they really wanted to be able to communicate with me, so they learned signs by taking classes and shared those signs with me (they also encouraged me to talk again, but that took a long time). I just hate how many people think sign language will prevent someone from speaking with their voice. That is not always the case. In fact, sometimes sign language is the boost someone needs to speak again (I know of someone who had tried to kill himself but didn't succeed.. He ended up with brain damage. But he forgot how to talk, and a deaf friend of mine started teaching him a few signs. After he learned those signs, it was as if his brain made a connection and he was able to speak again!). As long as the communication needs are being met, whether by signs or speech or WHATEVER, what is the problem?
 
The problem is a large number of most hearing parents don't have any experience with deafness know nothing about it and when those "professionals" tells those hearing parents not to use sign language or wasn't even presented to them. I as a deaf person finds that offensive and disrespectful when they substitutes signs to reply only on speech and to hear. All deaf children want to be understood, not having to be frustrate by lip-reading only. This is why all communication options are available for the deaf, and those needs to be told to all hearing parents.
 
Well you know this is exactly what I am talking about. This happens SO much.
Parents are really taught subconsciously that oral is the best. Look at the language used in promoting oral and auditory verbal programs. They really push the opinon that "oral is more "normal"......they really capitalize on the grief of parents who are still trying to deal with the fact that their baby isn't "perfect"
It's gotten a little better. Some parents are actually more openminded about Sign, especially the younger ones who grew up with it as something "cool" rather then a huge stigma.
 
*sigh* I wish the parents open their mind bit and take both sides instead of one side...

It's really sad that many parents depend on professional because they think they are expert than anyone who experience in real life...
 
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