Holocaust survivors mark 70th anniversary of Auschwitz liberation

VA Bowbender said:
Reba, all very good points and excellently stated.
Yes, the Jews are by far and away the most persecuted people that have ever walked the earth. Why do you think that is?
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I know why but we aren't allowed to discuss "religion" at AD. It will get this thread locked, and I don't want to do that.
 
VA Bowbender said:
Not trying to be a smart guy or start an argument. What happened at Auschwitz, Buchenwald, Treblinka, Bergen-Belsen, Dachau and SO many more should NEVER be forgotten.
When you say "your people" to whom are you referring? Are you Russian, Polish, Christian, German or Jewish in general? All these died at the hands of the Nazis.
How does your statement differ from Black Americans touting 200 years of slavery?
Current responses (right or wrong) to such statements are "you were never a slave and my kin were not slave owners".
AGAIN this is for discussion not argument sake.
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When I say "my people" I referring to me being Jewish and I had posted a number of times that my dad was born in Russia . You're not telling me anything I don't know. And I started this thread so there is no needs to tell that this should NEVR be forgotten . I do not have explain every thing I say to you . My parents talked about the Holocaust so I am very aware of what happen and I also pointed out not only Jewish people were killed . This still going to today in other countries . I know all the people in the Holocaust
were killed by Nazi . .
I said I hope the survivors families members will take over and go to schools to talk students about this so it "Will never be for gotten ".
We had to write a report on a well know person in high school all the girls were writing cutest move star and I wanted to know more about the Hitler
b/c my dad talked about him so much so I did my report on Hitler so the people would not forget what happen. I been very out spoken the treatment of Blacks , Native American in the 60's . My family felt that the Jewish people killed in the Holocaust were their people , my dad family left Russia b/c of what was happening to the Jewish people in their village .

I hope people checked out my second link that talk about Non Jewish victims of the Holocaust ,
 
whatdidyousay! said:
. . . I said I hope the survivors families members will take over and go to schools to talk students about this so it "Will never be for gotten "….
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That's what I fear, that after all the survivors and witnesses die off, people will forget. It's already started with some haters who say that the Holocaust never happened. What's worse, is some people believe them!
 
Reba said:
That's what I fear, that after all the survivors and witnesses die off, people will forget. It's already started with some haters who say that the Holocaust never happened. What's worse, is some people believe them!
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That been going on for years that people don't think the Holocaust never happen . It might be more noticeable today b/c of the internets, people can hide behind a fake name and say just think about the Holocaust . Sadly this nothing new. :(
 
whatdidyousay! said:
That been going on for years that people don't think the Holocaust never happen . It might be more noticeable today b/c of the internets, people can hide behind a fake name and say just think about the Holocaust . Sadly this nothing new. :(
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Yes, but in the past that was considered a fringe nutcase viewpoint. The danger is that it's becoming more mainstream. :cold:
 
mikemike said:
I had a Gallaudet professor who was a Holocaust survivor. Dr. Bergman. He rarely talked about it. Another one professor I had, the late Dr. Ryan, wrote a book about the deaf and Holocaust.
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What was his first name Bergman. Which dept was he in?
 
whatdidyousay! said:
I do not recall it like that all not the way my parents talked about it.
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I'm talking about now compared to 20-40 years ago. When I was younger, no sane normal people denied the Holocaust, at least not in public. Now, more people do, even in the colleges.

What way did your parents talk about it?
 
Years ago, I watched the movie "Schlinder's List" which is based on a true story. While the Jews were being sent to Auschwitz and other concentration camps, Oskar Schlinder a German and member of Nazis party. He saved the lives of 1200 Jews during the Holocaust by employing them in his industrial factories for ammunitions in the occupied Poland.

He was not the only German involved in Nazis Party who saved Jews from Holocaust.

Steven Spielberg who directed that movie addressed Holocaust survivors: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...witz-liberation-anniversary-article-1.2093505
 
This is about a survivor in our area:

Auschwitz survivor has noble mission
Jan 31 2015 12:01 am
I would like to focus attention on a very special hero in our community — Joe Engel, a Holocaust survivor. On Jan. 22, 1945, Joe escaped from the notorious Death March from Auschwitz-Birkenau Death Camp.

In mid-January 1945, as Soviet forces approached the camp, the SS forced some 60,000 prisoners to evacuate. The SS did not want the prisoners to fall into enemy hands and tell their stories to the liberators. Instead, they forced them to march some 35 miles.

En route the prisoners suffered from the freezing cold, starvation, exposure and exhaustion.

Those who fell down or stopped to rest were shot. As many as 15,000 died. Those who survived were put on trains for further evacuation.

It was from one of these “cattle trains” that Joe escaped. Hunted by the Nazis, he buried himself in the snow and hid until they moved on.

Eventually he met up with the partisans in the forest and went on missions to explode German ammunition until he was liberated by the Red Army in March 1945.

Joe would later discover that he lost approximately 150 relatives in the Holocaust.

He came to the United States in 1949 and ran a successful business on King Street for many years.

Joe has dedicated his life to talking to students and other groups to tell what he saw with his own eyes and to make sure the lessons of the Holocaust survive.

Tens of thousands of people, young and old, have learned about the Holocaust because of him. Joe Engel is a very special hero.

Upbeat, kind-hearted and generous, he is loved by thousands. There is even a street in Charleston, Engel Street, named for him.

Jan. 27 marked the 70th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz.

Eileen Chepenik

Chair
The REMEMBER Committee
Charleston Jewish Federation and the
S.C. Council on the Holocaust
Buckingham Drive
Charleston
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http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20150131/PC1002/150139892/1021/
 
Our American college students do NOT remember. :(

Pro-Palestinian students heckle Cal-Davis opponents with cries of 'Allahu Akbar!'
Anti-Israel activists at the University of California, Davis heckled Jewish students and shouted “Allahu Akbar” at them during a vote last week on a resolution endorsing a boycott of the Jewish state . . .

Activists waving Palestinian flags shouted at the Jewish and pro-Israel students as they left the meeting room . . .

“Allahu Akhbar!” a large group of activists shouted in unison as the pro-Israel students filed out of U.C. Davis’ meeting room . . .

unknown vandals spray-painted swastikas on a fraternity house belonging to the Jewish AEPi organization.

. . . Azka Fayyaz, a member of the U.C. Davis student senate, posted on her Facebook page a triumphant message following the vote: “Hamas & Sharia law have taken over UC Davis.”...
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Read the rest at:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/02/0...ts-with-cries-allahu-akbar/?intcmp=latestnews
 
Calvin said:
Years ago, I watched the movie "Schlinder's List" which is based on a true story. While the Jews were being sent to Auschwitz and other concentration camps, Oskar Schlinder a German and member of Nazis party. He saved the lives of 1200 Jews during the Holocaust by employing them in his industrial factories for ammunitions in the occupied Poland.

He was not the only German involved in Nazis Party who saved Jews from Holocaust.

Steven Spielberg who directed that movie addressed Holocaust survivors: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...witz-liberation-anniversary-article-1.2093505
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I think he may been optunist that quote from one of the people he saved
watch news and I don't think we have learned,i mean in iran kids taught at school did not happen Said Arabia say jews behind it.When lies like that are told then at some point some the holocaust will be negated and that be travesty
 
VA Bowbender said:
When I was in high school we were taught about the camps. It was required that all students watch the documentary film Night And Fog. One girl threw up and another left the room then passed out.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_and_Fog_(1955_film)
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http://documentaryheaven.com/night-and-fog/


Your link did not work for, this one.


Warning this very very graphic



I did not see this high school it went high for 2 years in my town then to a school in Maine for 2 years . I think this should showed at all high schools and colleges .
 
VA Bowbender said:
Reba, all very good points and excellently stated.
Yes, the Jews are by far and away the most persecuted people that have ever walked the earth. Why do you think that is?
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Well, actually the Gypsies have been too. There's hardly been a generation that hasn't been aggressively anti Gypsy. I recall when Madonna was performing, I think in Germany, she shouted out her support for the Romani people and was promptly booed. Some things never change...and there's the 20 million Russians that died at the hands or by the actions of the Germans....

Jews have been persecuted because, like the Gypsies, they're an easy target. I don't believe either group deserves this animosity nor are they to blame for idiots being hateful.

Laura
 
Lau2046 said:
Well, actually the Gypsies have been too. There's hardly been a generation that hasn't been aggressively anti Gypsy. I recall when Madonna was performing, I think in Germany, she shouted out her support for the Romani people and was promptly booed. Some things never change...and there's the 20 million Russians that died at the hands or by the actions of the Germans....

Jews have been persecuted because, like the Gypsies, they're an easy target. I don't believe either group deserves this animosity nor are they to blame for idiots being hateful.

Laura
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I posted a link in my post #11 that tell about the non Jewish victims and it said Gypsies were killed too .
My parents were about the first Jewish family to move into their neighborhood
and people were not happy about it. My parents move there in 1943 and
anti Semitic was very strong then. More Jewish families moved and they wanted a Temple and people protested that too. My dad gave money to help build the Temple .
 
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