How do deaf/HOH people feel about hearing people who want to work in a profession where they work with deaf/HOH people? for example, I want to be fluent in ASL and use in in my profession when I graduate from college. Do they support this, or see this as a hearing person trying to "invade"?
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I think it is wonderful for u to enter this professional. I do not see anyone have problem with it but they will be more delight to have someone who know ASL at their workplaces.
Good luck with your goal and hope u become very successful.
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It would depend on that hearing person's motives. I have met hearing people who have learned ASL and then start hanging out with us which is fine but then they start telling us what to do or try to run our lives. EXCUSE ME!!! It is :madfawk: to those people.
Also, I would find out that those people tend to be outcasts in the hearing world due to their inappriopriate behaviors in society and then try to bring that to the deaf community. Not gonna work!!
I really hate it when someone who just learned or learning ASL say "I like the deaf culture and you people are so wonderful." Huh? It is like they are categorizing us and putting us on one pedestal? We are all individuals with our own personalities and beliefs...just because we all cant hear or hear a little doesnt mean we all think alike or all wonderful. I know I am not "wonderful" sometimes! LOL
Also, I would find out that those people tend to be outcasts in the hearing world due to their inappriopriate behaviors in society and then try to bring that to the deaf community. Not gonna work!!
I really hate it when someone who just learned or learning ASL say "I like the deaf culture and you people are so wonderful." Huh? It is like they are categorizing us and putting us on one pedestal? We are all individuals with our own personalities and beliefs...just because we all cant hear or hear a little doesnt mean we all think alike or all wonderful. I know I am not "wonderful" sometimes! LOL
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It would depend on that hearing person's motives. I have met hearing people who have learned ASL and then start hanging out with us which is fine but then they start telling us what to do or try to run our lives. EXCUSE ME!!! It is :madfawk: to those people.
Also, I would find out that those people tend to be outcasts in the hearing world due to their inappriopriate behaviors in society and then try to bring that to the deaf community. Not gonna work!!
I really hate it when someone who just learned or learning ASL say "I like the deaf culture and you people are so wonderful." Huh? It is like they are categorizing us and putting us on one pedestal? We are all individuals with our own personalities and beliefs...just because we all cant hear or hear a little doesnt mean we all think alike or all wonderful. I know I am not "wonderful" sometimes! LOL
Know the type. Look how tolerant and loving I am. I am going to sacrifice my time tohelp poor unfortunate people. Make me want to :rl:
Deaf and non-deaf interaction
I was wondering if anyone could help me out. I am taking a sign language class and have to write a paper about "When is voicing rude?" I was given a quote and asked to respond to it. The quote has to do with etiquette. The quote says it is considered very rude for the non-deaf to use their voices when deaf and non-deaf people are in the same room. . It also says that when a Deaf person walks into a room of non-deaf people, all should start signing. My question is about general cultural etiquette and also has to do with what happens when the non-deaf people do not know sign language what is the protocol.
Thanks for any help.
Jill
I was wondering if anyone could help me out. I am taking a sign language class and have to write a paper about "When is voicing rude?" I was given a quote and asked to respond to it. The quote has to do with etiquette. The quote says it is considered very rude for the non-deaf to use their voices when deaf and non-deaf people are in the same room. . It also says that when a Deaf person walks into a room of non-deaf people, all should start signing. My question is about general cultural etiquette and also has to do with what happens when the non-deaf people do not know sign language what is the protocol.
Thanks for any help.
Jill
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Oh please.
I do NOT care if hearing people voice, even though I am deaf and sign. And I do not expect all the hearing people to sign if I walk in a room full of hearing people. The quote is a crapload of shit.
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It would depend on that hearing person's motives. I have met hearing people who have learned ASL and then start hanging out with us which is fine but then they start telling us what to do or try to run our lives. EXCUSE ME!!! It is :madfawk: to those people.
Also, I would find out that those people tend to be outcasts in the hearing world due to their inappriopriate behaviors in society and then try to bring that to the deaf community. Not gonna work!!
I really hate it when someone who just learned or learning ASL say "I like the deaf culture and you people are so wonderful." Huh? It is like they are categorizing us and putting us on one pedestal? We are all individuals with our own personalities and beliefs...just because we all cant hear or hear a little doesnt mean we all think alike or all wonderful. I know I am not "wonderful" sometimes! LOL
You just summed up the three kinds of people that make me cringe, and also make me embarrassed to be a hearing person involved with the deaf community: the people with ulterior motives (often religious), the "deaf groupies," and the patronizers.
Some people I know get very defensive when asked "why did you become an interpreter" or "why did you want to learn sign?" but those questions don't bother me at all, because if it were me I'd really want to know if I'm dealing with one of these types.
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From experience as a hearing person fluent in ASL, you're far more likely to be liked than scorned. Just remember that there are multiple forms of signing (ASL, PSE, SEE1, SEE2, etc.) and that not all deaf people like signing---if you look around this forum, you may notice that some deaf people are proud of not signing and are quite proud of their abilities to use their voices, and some are quite shy when signing with hearing people and some may prefer to use their voices with you even if they know you're hearing.
Point: It's great that you're wanting to sign, but remember that everyone has her/his own preferred method of communicating with hearing people.
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Maybe that's why I am not hated for hating my ex-girlfriend who happens to be deaf...... :PIt would depend on that hearing person's motives. I have met hearing people who have learned ASL and then start hanging out with us which is fine but then they start telling us what to do or try to run our lives. EXCUSE ME!!! It is :madfawk: to those people.
Also, I would find out that those people tend to be outcasts in the hearing world due to their inappriopriate behaviors in society and then try to bring that to the deaf community. Not gonna work!!
I really hate it when someone who just learned or learning ASL say "I like the deaf culture and you people are so wonderful." Huh? It is like they are categorizing us and putting us on one pedestal? We are all individuals with our own personalities and beliefs...just because we all cant hear or hear a little doesnt mean we all think alike or all wonderful. I know I am not "wonderful" sometimes! LOL
Seriously, though, good post! I totally agree with you. I learned ASL to socialize, not to run people's lives.
It would depend on that hearing person's motives. I have met hearing people who have learned ASL and then start hanging out with us which is fine but then they start telling us what to do or try to run our lives. EXCUSE ME!!! It is :madfawk: to those people.
Also, I would find out that those people tend to be outcasts in the hearing world due to their inappriopriate behaviors in society and then try to bring that to the deaf community. Not gonna work!!
I really hate it when someone who just learned or learning ASL say "I like the deaf culture and you people are so wonderful." Huh? It is like they are categorizing us and putting us on one pedestal? We are all individuals with our own personalities and beliefs...just because we all cant hear or hear a little doesnt mean we all think alike or all wonderful. I know I am not "wonderful" sometimes! LOL
Well i met my Deaf friend before learning any signs. Once i started learning i loved ASL. My brother is the same about german, which he speaks very well. I have taken other languages and they didn't stick and i became bored with them. I want to learn more and more ASL. The more i learned the more Deaf people i met. And i have only been asked once or twice why i am learning. I say so i can talk with my friends.
Now i talk to my Deaf friends almost everyday and they drag me all over the place!! LOL i have so much fun with them. But i only ever go when i am invited. That is my personality anyway i never invite myself i see that as rude. The group that i hang out with are a blast. So funny and kind just great people. I have really not much frame of reference outside of them though. I kinda feel ya on that though. It's like when people find out i am gay and they say oh you are??? I LOVE GAY GUYS!! y'all are great! I say yes we are but then i think yeah there are some real ass holes who are gay too. Just cause you have met one or two of us that you like doesn't mean we all are.
As to motive. Here is a little story. a while back my friends invited me to a big deaf cook out. There were maybe 75 Deaf there. For a while i was the only hearing. Later two more showed up. One, we'll call him Bob for this, was taking classes to become an interpreter. He was still a beginner. Well it came out that he was gay and i am too so who cares. Well he just followed me around the entire time. Now when he first got there he said he knew no Deaf people and he was just there with some one from his class. So in forced conversation he said to me, " i don't know about you but i prefer Deaf people" (wait i thought you just said you don't know any Deafies so um... how did you come to this conclusion) he then tells me that he really wants a Deaf boyfriend. Again from what frame of reference since you know no deaf people. "Yeah i feel that if you are oppressed you are more open to other people". I said really and then had to go find a drink. he followed me and told me that he really doesn't want to be an interpreter. (WHY ARE YOU TAKING THE CLASSES THEN???) In him following me around i found his personality to be one of the kid who was always picked on is school. The one always telling people not to do that or i am telling he teacher he was BEYOND annoying..... so later over hearing a convo with his hearing friend it came out that he is having trouble with men and has never dated anyone guy or girl. So that is when the pieces fell into place. Your personality is so awful that you cannot date anyone. So you think that if you learn ASL it will be a Deaf magnate and they will just flock to you. Because poor Deaf they can't help it and they won't see what an ASS you are :rl:
needless to say i couldn't stand this guy. a week or so later i was talking to a Deaf friend who was also there and we were talking about the cookout. I told her about him. That he is learning for the wrong reasons. She said no he told me he wants to be an interpreter. Well i told her everything that happened and she had this discussed look on her face. i can't blame her. He made me question my motives though. Really look at myself and how i act and what i do. I never want to be percieved in that way. i started learning just because i wanted to communicate with my new friends, so much of who i am is lost in pen and paper. What i know now is limited and i am going to school in the spring to take formal lessons. All of my Deaf friends have encouraged me to become an interpreter. I really wasn't considering it before i just wanted to take the classes to get better i hate that they have to stop and slowly sign a summery of what is going on. They shouldn't have to stop their fun for me i need to improve. But now i constantly check myself because of him. thanks:asshole: :madfawk: