has Anybody experienced discrimination in employment

hoodoowytch said:
I have been experiencing discrimination for the last 3 years since my hearing went. I go and fill out a job application and as soon as I start signing to whoever is in charge, or they read on the application I am deaf, it goes down hill from that point. Really frustrating. Any ideas as to what to do? Its a sitch that I have to prove they are discriminating against me because I am deaf...but can't really prove it. I am NOT disabled...even though I have people who keep telling me to file for Disability....which really annoys me as well.

Any suggestions?
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Don't put deaf or HOH put J88 on it.
J88 is a code with the DMV for Deaf or HOH... you didn't lie, and you put it on there, let them figure it out.
 
hoodoowytch said:
Oh geez...with the current social spatting going on in this society about the LGBT community, I really feel for you. Why does this culture seem to think deaf people, or anyone who isn't "just like everybody else", is a second class citizen? :hmm:
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Lol it's fine, I know I'm cooler than them... they can't touch my awesomeness! =P I have an awesome job now and them and their discrimination just motivated me to achieve higher. =P I don't need those a** holes! =P don't meet many deaf gay people though... know that's off topic but kind of makes me sad... lol
 
Thanks for the input guys. Frankly, I would rather NOT do the SSI thing...would rather just go back to school and get me a GOOD job. Is there any options for financial aid that is specific for Deaf folks?
 
Phoenix23 said:
Lol it's fine, I know I'm cooler than them... they can't touch my awesomeness! =P I have an awesome job now and them and their discrimination just motivated me to achieve higher. =P I don't need those a** holes! =P don't meet many deaf gay people though... know that's off topic but kind of makes me sad... lol
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Well, I'm Bi if that helps. LOL But, yeah, the whole discrimination thing just because someone is deaf, or blind, in a wheelchair or whatever is just so stupid.
 
hoodoowytch said:
Thanks for the input guys. Frankly, I would rather NOT do the SSI thing...would rather just go back to school and get me a GOOD job. Is there any options for financial aid that is specific for Deaf folks?
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you can try to apply for a few deaf-related scholarship programs but since you're 44-years old mom.... not likely. financial aid and scholarship are mostly for young people - either fresh out of high school or in college.

the only option is to get a loan. good luck.
 
reason I said that, is it covers your ass. Proof I have experienced. I did put that I was hearing impaired on my application before. When it came down to tooth and nail, my supervisor asked me how I got the job, I said I put an app in and they called me ( interviews and all ) he said well you cant hear so gonna fire you for lying. REALLY? funny thing is, I didn't know all the eeoc and stuff back then, I was young and starting out, well he went to the office and they pulled my files and sure enough it was on there so they couldn't fire me because of my hearing, they overlooked it and it was their mistake. So I always put it on there creatively so it doesn't stand out and since I have learned about J88 I just randomly add it in where its not suspicious. Hey, didn't lie, didn't hide it either. Don't have to be big, can be really small anywhere , top left corner, bottom page...anywhere on the official application.
 
hoodoowytch said:
Thanks for the input guys. Frankly, I would rather NOT do the SSI thing...would rather just go back to school and get me a GOOD job. Is there any options for financial aid that is specific for Deaf folks?
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Fafsa.com you can get $5000 for college. My daughter and I both got it but I haven't used mine yet.
 
Jiro said:
you can try to apply for a few deaf-related scholarship programs but since you're 44-years old mom.... not likely. financial aid and scholarship are mostly for young people - either fresh out of high school or in college.

the only option is to get a loan. good luck.
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*making eff sign* Loans suck. But, you're probably right. I can't afford to relocate to where Galludet is, or RIT...even if I could get accepted at either. It's shitty that everything seems to be geared towards younger folks. I chose to be there for my kids for several reasons...the biggest was the high cost of child care. But, being a good mom doesn't seem to account for much in this society now-a-days. I was a hearing person back then, never thought or dreamed I'd go deaf...but there you are. Right when I was ready to do something else with the rest of my life things changed my plans.

I have been doing web-copy/writing for the net for a while, but it doesn't pay much. Pretty hit and miss....but at least no one bitches at me for being deaf or treats me like an idiot. :aw:
 
hoodoowytch said:
*making eff sign* Loans suck. But, you're probably right. I can't afford to relocate to where Galludet is, or RIT...even if I could get accepted at either. It's shitty that everything seems to be geared towards younger folks. I chose to be there for my kids for several reasons...the biggest was the high cost of child care. But, being a good mom doesn't seem to account for much in this society now-a-days. I was a hearing person back then, never thought or dreamed I'd go deaf...but there you are. Right when I was ready to do something else with the rest of my life things changed my plans.

I have been doing web-copy/writing for the net for a while, but it doesn't pay much. Pretty hit and miss....but at least no one bitches at me for being deaf or treats me like an idiot. :aw:
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wait a min.... do you intend to be a full-time student at undergraduate program?
 
hoodoowytch said:
*making eff sign* Loans suck. But, you're probably right. I can't afford to relocate to where Galludet is, or RIT...even if I could get accepted at either. It's shitty that everything seems to be geared towards younger folks. I chose to be there for my kids for several reasons...the biggest was the high cost of child care. But, being a good mom doesn't seem to account for much in this society now-a-days. I was a hearing person back then, never thought or dreamed I'd go deaf...but there you are. Right when I was ready to do something else with the rest of my life things changed my plans.

I have been doing web-copy/writing for the net for a while, but it doesn't pay much. Pretty hit and miss....but at least no one bitches at me for being deaf or treats me like an idiot. :aw:
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Community college is cheapest route.
 
Jiro said:
you are not required to state that you are deaf on job application
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But it does ask if you have any impairments or need assistance ( in that nature) so if you say no, then they look at it as if you are normal, but if they find out you are hoh/deaf they can you because you didn't tell them. I always wrote hearing issue or something related to hearing that way I was covered, now Id just write J88 as most don't know what it is and overlook it, but in the long run, its there and you covered your ass.
 
sonocativo said:
But it does ask if you have any impairments or need assistance ( in that nature) so if you say no, then they look at it as if you are normal, but if they find out you are hoh/deaf they can you because you didn't tell them. I always wrote hearing issue or something related to hearing that way I was covered, now Id just write J88 as most don't know what it is and overlook it, but in the long run, its there and you covered your ass.
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Enforcement Guidance: Preemployment Disability- Related Questions and Medical Examinations.
Background

In the past, some employment applications and interviews requested
information about an applicant's physical and/or mental condition.
This information was often used to exclude applicants with
disabilities before their ability to perform the job was even
evaluated.

For example, applicants may have been asked about their medical
conditions at the same time that they were engaging in other parts
of the application process, such as completing a written job
application or having references checked. If an applicant was
then rejected, s/he did not necessarily know whether s/he was
rejected because of disability, or because of insufficient skills
or experience or a bad report from a reference.

As a result, Congress established a process within the ADA to
isolate an employer's consideration of an applicant's non-medical
qualifications from any consideration of the applicant's medical
condition.

The Statutory and Regulatory Framework

Under the law, an employer may not ask disability-related
questions and may not conduct medical examinations until after it
makes a conditional job offer to the applicant.3 This helps
ensure that an applicant's possible hidden disability (including a
prior history of a disability) is not considered before the
employer evaluates an applicant's non-medical qualifications. An
employer may not ask disability-related questions or require a
medical examination pre-offer even if it intends to look at the
answers or results only at the post-offer stage.

Although employers may not ask disability-related questions or
require medical examinations at the pre-offer stage, they may do a
wide variety of things to evaluate whether an applicant is
qualified for the job, including the following:

* Employers may ask about an applicant's ability to perform
specific job functions. For example, an employer may state the
physical requirements of a job (such as the ability to lift a
certain amount of weight, or the ability to climb ladders), and
ask if an applicant can satisfy these requirements.

* Employers may ask about an applicant's non-medical
qualifications and skills, such as the applicant's education, work
history, and required certifications and licenses.

* Employers may ask applicants to describe or demonstrate how they
would perform job tasks.

Once a conditional job offer is made, the employer may ask
disability-related questions and require medical examinations as
long as this is done for all entering employees in that job
category. If the employer rejects the applicant after a
disability-related question or medical examination, investigators
will closely scrutinize whether the rejection was based on the
results of that question or examination.

If the question or examination screens out an individual because
of a disability, the employer must demonstrate that the reason for
the rejection is "job-related and consistent with business
necessity."4



In addition, if the individual is screened out for safety reasons,
the employer must demonstrate that the individual poses a "direct
threat." This means that the individual poses a significant risk
of substantial harm to him/herself or others, and that the risk
cannot be reduced below the direct threat level through reasonable
accommodation.5

Medical information must be kept confidential.6 The ADA contains
narrow exceptions for disclosing specific, limited information to
supervisors and managers, first aid and safety personnel, and
government officials investigating compliance with the ADA.
Employers may also disclose medical information to state workers'
compensation offices, state second injury funds, or workers'
compensation insurance carriers in accordance with state workers'
compensation laws7 and may use the medical information for
insurance purposes.8
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and much more detail in the link
 
Jiro said:
wait a min.... do you intend to be a full-time student at undergraduate program?
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That is/was the plan. There is a college here in the town I live in...Morehead State University...but don't know if they deal with deafies very well, or at all.

But, it is the only school I could actually attend around where I live...except maybe vo-tech...but not interested in any of those programs.

Why?
 
sonocativo said:
Yes, but when you put it on the app they instantly target you, unless you are creative with wording it that they overlook it as I do, and it has saved my ass in the past, The situation I mentioned above arose after Ive been working there 5 years, they backed off once they seen it was on my app.
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I bet you're like this

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hoodoowytch said:
That is/was the plan. There is a college here in the town I live in...Morehead State University...but don't know if they deal with deafies very well, or at all.
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all the colleges I've attended had no experience with deafies especially for a specific accommodation that I requested for - C.A.R.T. service. they did their best and they did a good job. I hope Morehead State University does same. Contact their Office of Disability (or whatever it's called) and see where it goes from there.

hoodoowytch said:
But, it is the only school I could actually attend around where I live...except maybe vo-tech...but not interested in any of those programs.

Why?
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it makes a difference if you plan on being a full-time student or not. part of FAFSA's requirement is that a student be full-time. it does cover part-time but there's a minimum credit needed to be met.

so if you plan on taking a course or two per semester.... you're not gonna get FAFSA.
 
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