GOP Attacks Hurting UK Conservatives.

[deafskeptic]

Source is Political Irony. I could have used another link but I thought this one is funnier.

GOP attacks are hurting conservatives in the UK

With the UK economy in shambles, everyone expected the Labour Party, headed by Prime Minister Gordon Brown, to be defeated soundly in the next elections there. However, US Republican Party attacks on the British National Health Service as part of their campaign to discredit US health care reform are receiving wide coverage there and are causing a backlash. The NHS is so popular in the UK that virtually all politicians, including conservatives, support it, but British Conservative Party links to the US Republican party are causing it to lose popularity quickly.

First, Investor’s Business Daily ran an anti-reform editorial claiming that “scientist Stephen Hawking wouldn’t have a chance in the UK, where the National Health Service would say the life of this brilliant man, because of his physical handicaps, is essentially worthless.” They were forced to retract that when it was pointed out to them that Stephen Hawking is, indeed, British and lives in the UK. Hawking even wrote an editorial (electronically) singing the praises of the NHS.

Then a Conservative Member of the European Parliament, appeared on US TV warning Americans against an NHS-style health care system. UK conservatives tried to distance themselves from his comments, but the damage was already done. Two UK newspapers, including one considered a conservative newspaper, ran articles revealing UK Conservative Party links to Republican NHS bashers.

The latest scandal comes from two British women who claim they were duped into appearing in anti-health reform ads broadcast in the US, and that their words were twisted to make it appear that they were against the NHS. The two women were told that they were participating in a documentary about health care, and their statements were about proposed reforms to the NHS, which both women support. Neither woman was told that their words would be used in an US ads.

The ads were sponsored by the Conservatives for Patients’ Rights, which is run by Rick Scott. Scott was forced to resign as the head of heath provider Columbia/HCA because of massive fraud at the company.

It is interesting that Britain’s health care system, which goes far beyond anything proposed by Obama, is so popular in Britain that even the slightest hint that a party wants to dismantle it will cost them an election.

 

[kokonut]

UK is one of the oldest nationalized health care. It's a model for failure.

 

[Liebling:-)))]

UK is one of the oldest nationalized health care. It's a model for failure.

No, Germany has the world's oldest universal health care system, not UK.

Universal health care system was first introduced in 1883 by Otto von Bismarck in Germany.


UK might have problems but the USA have more problems.

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[kokonut]

Sighhhhh.....

*bangs head*

Reread what I just wrote. I said, "One of the oldest..." not "The oldest..."

 

[kokonut]

You can bet we'll have more problems if this health care "reform" bill gets passed.

 

[jillio]

I'll bet against it.

 

[deafskeptic]

UK is one of the oldest nationalized health care. It's a model for failure.

If it's a model for failure, why is it so popular with the Brits that it threatens the Tories' election chances?

No health care is perfect as Liebling has pointed out.

 

[kokonut]

If it's a model for failure, why is it so popular with the Brits that it threatens the Tories' election chances?

No health care is perfect as Liebling has pointed out.

Remember, it's the govt. When you get to the point of a single payer system, you have no choice. So, by saying "popular" it'd be grossly a misnomer when personal choice or control cannot be factored in.

 

[somedeafdudefromPNW]

No, Germany has the world's oldest universal health care system, not UK.

Universal health care system was first introduced in 1883 by Otto von Bismarck in Germany.


UK might have problems but the USA have more problems.

Wow... I didn't know that. Interesting that the founder of Germany, the guy who reunified Germany, introduced universal healthcare. And to think he wasn't pro-Socialist either!

 

[HorseRace]

tsk tsk gop.. oh well i know there are too many plms in usa about healthcare issue....
due to money issue such greedy, due to keep on RX med from FDA, due to lack of nutrition in usa.. and much more.. i work for nutrition company i love it and keep me great healthy! much better than RX med ! whew! i am safe!

 

[kokonut]

Wait until you get old....

 

[dreama]

First I heard that NHS is popular in Britain. Those who have money don't use it. They go private.

I'd like a system in place that supplies free health care for those on benifits, low waged, and disabled, but those with money would have to pay for insurance. That way the waiting lists won't be so long.
They have a system like that running in france and I found the services there much better then my experience with NHS.


Stephen Hawking may be British but he didn't have any help in Britain. I read somewhere that the funding for all his equipment came from USA because nobody in England would supply the money.

 

[sallylou]

The rich can pay for health insurance. The dirt poor get Medicaid. Seniors get Medicare. That leaves the rest of us without any option.

There's too much of the "I got mine" attitude in the U.S. It's part of the "If you weren't such a loser" mentality.

 

[dreama]

The rich can pay for health insurance. The dirt poor get Medicaid. Seniors get Medicare. That leaves the rest of us without any option.

There's too much of the "I got mine" attitude in the U.S. It's part of the "If you weren't such a loser" mentality.

I don't think anyone should be excluded from health care.
The problem with NHS is the waiting lists are too long and when you get there the services are not very good.

I'm on benifits, my mom was on benifits but I have at times been forced to pay to go privately or do without health care, just because my needs weren't covered by NHS.